How about them Canucks!

JLM

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Nonsense! While you seem to have almost an encyclopaedic knowledge of NHL details down the years,
you don't have an exclusive right to opinion. I know that a lower place team can sometimes beat
a team that is much higher in the standings. That doesn't make it any less frustrating. That
frustration was what I was expressing. I also know that Luongo can often make impossible saves
that an android would have trouble with but that makes it more frustrating when he lets in a blooper that
my grandmother could probably have stopped, or skates out of his crease and hands the puck to the
opposition for a free goal. That was a boneheaded play at any level.

Have a good day.

Human beings make "boneheaded" plays sometimes in all walks of life. It's known as "being human". I think the Canucks are in good shape mentally and statistically- if they can just get through the next while playing .500 they will be OK. Like I said they will clinch a playoff berth by March 16.
 

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Human beings make "boneheaded" plays sometimes in all walks of life. It's known as "being human". I think the Canucks are in good shape mentally and statistically- if they can just get through the next while playing .500 they will be OK. Like I said they will clinch a playoff berth by March 16.

JLM I'm sure the Canucks will be in the play-offs. I'm kind of hoping for the President's trophy. Be good if they won the Stanley Cup as well but that will take a little longer.
 
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Nonsense! While you seem to have almost an encyclopaedic knowledge of NHL details down the years,
you don't have an exclusive right to opinion. I know that a lower place team can sometimes beat
a team that is much higher in the standings. That doesn't make it any less frustrating. That
frustration was what I was expressing. I also know that Luongo can often make impossible saves
that an android would have trouble with but that makes it more frustrating when he lets in a blooper that
my grandmother could probably have stopped, or skates out of his crease and hands the puck to the
opposition for a free goal. That was a boneheaded play at any level.

Have a good day.

of course I don't, but I sure do have the right, as you do, to reply with my opinion on anything
I want.

Your reply to JLM above is a little softer, that would have been much more acceptable than trashing
them, after they have entertained you with great hockey for a long time, including luongo.

Frustration is easy, understanding and acceptance of reality takes more thought.
 

#juan

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of course I don't, but I sure do have the right, as you do, to reply with my opinion on anything
I want.

Your reply to JLM above is a little softer, that would have been much more acceptable than trashing
them, after they have entertained you with great hockey for a long time, including luongo.

Frustration is easy, understanding and acceptance of reality takes more thought.

I didn't trash anyone in particular, just the team in general. Getting into first place is no mean feat but
imagine the frustration of coach AV in that game.
Except for this last couple years, what the Canucks have been playing for the most part has not been great hockey. The current management of the Canucks seem to be trying to build a winning team and
I will admit that their efforts seem to be paying off.
 
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JLM

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JLM I'm sure the Canucks will be in the play-offs. I'm kind of hoping for the President's trophy. Be good if they won the Stanley Cup as well but that will take a little longer.

I'm hoping for the President's Trophy too, but they need a healthy team for the most part to get it, just hoping the headstart they have at present will hold them through the tough times, meanwhile making the playoffs is chore #1 and then it's one round at a time for four rounds. On whole #Juan, they've played well the past two years and the only difference between them and Chicago last year was a couple of lucky bounces for Chicago- can't remember if Chicago did it in 6 or 7.
 

#juan

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of course I don't, but I sure do have the right, as you do, to reply with my opinion on anything
I want.

Your reply to JLM above is a little softer, that would have been much more acceptable than trashing
them, after they have entertained you with great hockey for a long time, including luongo.

Frustration is easy, understanding and acceptance of reality takes more thought.

Talloola the last thing I want to do is create bad feelings between us. I have been bitching
about the Canucks since they joined the NHL about forty years ago. Years of indifferent owners
and incompetent management has in some years turned me off completely. Over the years
the Canucks have probably traded away a pretty good team: Andre Boudria, Cam Neely,
Jim Sandlac, Dennis Kearns, Martin Gelina, to name a few.

The current management seem to want to build a winner and so far it seems to be working.
I'll forgive them as soon as they win the cup........:roll::smile:
 

talloola

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yeah, damn them, we were watching them on and off, then they even got the shoot out win, but they
are still 4 points behind canucks, so all is good still.(PHILLY)


good solid game for canucks tonight, schneider let in a soft one, but other than that, he played
very well.
the team had lots of jump, and that third line had a great night.
kesler had his usual good game, glad he got the empty netter, burrows had a chance at it, but
missed.

live in the present juan, forget the last 40 years, has nothing to do with 'now'. I watch one
game at a time, and I watch the details of each game, player for player.

I don't care what the team did 10,20 or 30 years ago, these players weren't even born, and if
we don't win the cup this year, I won't think about for more than 48 hours, whats the big deal,
the team has allready excited all of us and the season is 2/3 over., owners, managers and coaches are all different, no connection at all.

They have a chance to win the presidents cup first, and even if they don't do that, so what, they
will still have had a good year, and with all the injuries now, the future is uncertain, they will
just do their best, and whatever comes of it, comes of it.

I'm still not excited about the twins of late, not sure what's happening with them, their 'automatic'
passing to each other has dissapeared for now, and they need to improvise and change their style
for awhile.

Good game though, the guys came out after playing last night, and did well. good for them.
The young guys did fine, feeling their way around, and salo looks like he is very comfortable
allready.

Juan, all the bitching you do from now on, I will ignore. If you have to do it,
go for it. lol

GO CANUCKS GO

Talloola the last thing I want to do is create bad feelings between us. I have been bitching
about the Canucks since they joined the NHL about forty years ago. Years of indifferent owners
and incompetent management has in some years turned me off completely. Over the years
the Canucks have probably traded away a pretty good team: Andre Boudria, Cam Neely,
Jim Sandlac, Dennis Kearns, Martin Gelina, to name a few.

The current management seem to want to build a winner and so far it seems to be working.
I'll forgive them as soon as they win the cup........:roll::smile:

they don't care if you forgive them or not, so don't fret over them. lol
 

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I had some personal things to do tonight and I completely missed the game against the Wild
that the Canucks won 4 - 1. I would have expected the Canucks to have more trouble with the
Wild than St. Louis.
 

talloola

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I had some personal things to do tonight and I completely missed the game against the Wild
that the Canucks won 4 - 1. I would have expected the Canucks to have more trouble with the
Wild than St. Louis.

the one good thing about winning tonight was getting that monkey off their back, as they have had
lots of troubles trying to win in the excel center.

they had more jump tonight, more energy.

st. louis started the season as a very strong team, but ran into lots and lots of injuries one after
another, over time those players have gradually healed and come back, just one of their top players
still out,(perron), so they should be better now, and become stronger again.
 

JLM

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I had some personal things to do tonight and I completely missed the game against the Wild
that the Canucks won 4 - 1. I would have expected the Canucks to have more trouble with the
Wild than St. Louis.

My sentiments exactly, that's why you can't take "easy" teams for granted. Edmonton vs. Dallas case in point. The way things are going watch for the Avalanche to get first draft pick.
 

#juan

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My sentiments exactly, that's why you can't take "easy" teams for granted. Edmonton vs. Dallas case in point. The way things are going watch for the Avalanche to get first draft pick.

Do you think Edmonton will come alive and get themselves out of the basement, and the first round draft pick?...:smile:
 

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Do you think Edmonton will come alive and get themselves out of the basement, and the first round draft pick?...:smile:

New Jersey and the Islanders are doing it, and Calgary rallied after mid season so why not Edmonton? Actually I don't know the answer, just the possibilities- like everyone else.
 

talloola

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nothing really stays the same with most teams, teams are constantly either getting worse,
or getting better, just the 'human' aspect of any sports team, and how the 'injuries' affect
the workings of a group.

I watch edmonton all the time, they have the beginnings of a good team, good young players,
but those young guys have to get some experience to be more dominant, and if edmonton finish
at the bottom this season, they will have 'another' young upstart to join the team, who will
then add more potential for a top team in the next four or five years.
Even though they are way down there, I still enjoy watching those young players, as they are
very good, skate hard, lots of energy, try hard, young taylor hall will be a super star in the
league someday soon, as soon as the team has a little more support around him, and they also
need a new solid goalkeeper, young, and when the young players feel more support around them
they won't try 'too' hard, and make some of the mistakes they are making now, they will relax
and let the game come to them.

The islanders are playing much better now, and michael grabner is 'hot' right now, has 25 goals,
and his speed, (fastest in the league), now has some finess to go with it, and on a team like the
islanders, he is getting lots of ice time, power play time etc., which he would not have on a
strong team, but I was very dissapointed when canucks traded him, (ballard trade), but to get
ballard, good players had to go, then florida put him on waivers, guess they didn't like him,
but he has found a comfortable home with islanders, and is their top goal scorer.

Teams dip in the standings once in a while thru the season, then come back, or not, but nothing
stays the same, and just because they are at a 'certain' number in the standings doesn't mean
they are easy pickins, doesn't work that way.

Yeah, colorado are in a real funk right now, can't seem to do anything right, BUT good players,
capable players, and whatever is wrong right now won't last forever, but they are in definite
slide toward the bottom right now.

Dallas went into edmonton last night, and lost. Dallas just didn't play well, but edmonton played
with that energy they always seem to have, and beat a team that didn't show up.
 

talloola

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well canucks are definitely being tested, and tested hard.

bieksa has a fractured foot, will be out for about 3 weeks, so it seems he won't
need surgery, which is good, BUT what does the near future bring for them, another
manitoba D man coming to fill in, and a trade rumour as well concerning a new
D man, but nothing certain, seems to be just a story right now.

all of a sudden sami salo is the only veteran on defense, who'd a thunk it.
 

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3 weeks for broken foot...jeepers it seems like yesterday it took 6 weeks for a bone to heal and another one or two to work the atrophy out of the ankle joint.

I want their Drs.
 

talloola

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3 weeks for broken foot...jeepers it seems like yesterday it took 6 weeks for a bone to heal and another one or two to work the atrophy out of the ankle joint.

I want their Drs.

I guess broken bones vary a greal deal in severity, and without surgery, the time frame can
be much shorter, maybe it's just a hairline fracture or? thats about it for me, just guessing.

alberts has a broken hand, just had surgery, will be out 6 to 8 weeks, and when daniel sedin
had a broken foot last year, I think he was out for quite some time too, so one broken foot
is not necessarily as bad as another.

And of course, maybe that 3 weeks will turn into 5

UPDATE;
a recent interview with vineault: "Bieksa will be out indefinitely".
 
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#juan

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I guess broken bones vary a greal deal in severity, and without surgery, the time frame can
be much shorter, maybe it's just a hairline fracture or? thats about it for me, just guessing.

alberts has a broken hand, just had surgery, will be out 6 to 8 weeks, and when daniel sedin
had a broken foot last year, I think he was out for quite some time too, so one broken foot
is not necessarily as bad as another.

And of course, maybe that 3 weeks will turn into 5

UPDATE;
a recent interview with vineault: "Bieksa will be out indefinitely".

Someone who was paranoid might want to think that the Canucks defense was being targeted. God, Ballard,
Edler, Hamhuis, Now Bieksa,
Other teams might give away a defenseman, in exchange for a good forward. I can't think of a forward I would
trade with out seriously hurting the team.