Our home and naive land

[china]

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Our home and naive land
Toronto Sun [Canada]
Michael Coren

Canada Day. Denial Day. Complacency Day. A day for playing with fireworks while the country burns.

Wave the flag. Wave a cloth adorned with a piece of vegetation in the colours of the Liberal Party, one with little tradition and less meaning.

--- No. Many Canadians remember the great emblem that once adorned our dominion, containing the cross, the symbol of ancient and eternal wisdom and truth.

Do what the government tells you, allow your rights to be expunged and smile as the norms that made the country great are parodied while at the same time a stew of twisted realities are paraded.

--- No. Many Canadians are tired of the intrusions of the state and the relentless attacks from alleged "alternative" lifestyles.

Protect children but destroy childhood, make a fetish of equality but allow elites to impose their ways and rule our country. Claim to respect diversity but be horribly intolerant of anybody who resists the liberal status quo.

--- No. Many Canadians are tired of the twin monsters of materialism and decadence. They have had enough of public educators telling young people how to live but not how to read and write. Nor will they remain silent when told to do so by the princes of political correctness.

Park in a handicapped parking spot and you'll be charged and fined. Abort a handicapped baby or kill a terminally ill handicapped person and you'll be applauded.

--- No. Many Canadians are waking up to this country's tolerance of destruction of generations of the unborn and the growing obsession with euthanasia and killing those who are no longer bold and beautiful.

Have perverse sex, take your clothes off in public, swear on television and insult people's deeply held beliefs, but you don't dare do it while smoking a cigarette or not wearing a seat belt.

--- No. Many Canadians are repulsed by the hypocrisy. They know there are moral as well as physical ills that plague our country and that it is pointless to save a body if the soul is destroyed.

Blithely pay $20 million a week to the CBC so that ludicrously biased people can tell us about what our own country means. Allow unions there and elsewhere to dictate national policy without any democratic or constitutional right.

--- No. Many Canadians have seen through the facade of double standards in broadcasting as well as the extremism of so many in the labour movement.

Satirize the United States and comfort and define ourselves by what we are not. Hate the best neighbours a nation could have, knowing they will respond with kindness.

--- No. Many Canadians understand that it is we who are often parochial and they who are prestigious. They know that lack of gratitude is the weapon of the spoiled child.

Pay tax after tax and yet see education and health care deteriorate before our very eyes. Never look at the authentic causes of gangs and violence because they may reveal dangerous truths.

--- No. Many Canadians now want to keep their own money and do not trust the government to spend it. Nor do they believe the politicians and their explanations about inner-city crime.

Canada Day. Kill God, kill man and kill truth. -- No.

Save the country. Not from others, but from itself. It's up to you, the many Canadians, even if you don't yet know it.

http://www.torontosun.com/News/Columnists/...01/1662702.html

 

[TenPenny]

Wave the flag. Wave a cloth adorned with a piece of vegetation in the colours of the Liberal Party, one with little tradition and less meaning.

Red and White are the official colours of Canada, as declared by the King in 1921.

 

[gerryh]

I basically stopped reading after this little tidbit

--- No. Many Canadians are tired of the intrusions of the state and the relentless attacks from alleged "alternative" lifestyles.

I know where this is going, the intolerant right trying to shove their intolerant BS down everyone elses throat. Back to Gays in the closet and life terms for "buggery".

 

[TenPenny]

I just read the rest of that. What a complete load of utter bullshiyt.

If only we lived in China, where freedom reigns supreme!

 

[china]

Red and White are the official colours of Canada, as declared by the King in 1921.

Red and White are Polish national colors as declare by the beloved Polish king Mieszko the First in the year 966 AD.
It's a sacrilege that the liberals adapted the colors as the colors of their ......party .haha

 

[gerryh]

Red and White are Polish national colors as declare by the beloved Polish king Mieszko the First in the year 966 AD.
It's a sacrilege that the liberals adapted the colors as the colors of their ......party .

you're right....who the hell wants anything associated with those stupid pollacks.


BTW, did ya's hear what happened to the new subs for the polish navy? They forgot to shut the screen doors and they all sank.

 

[china]

I just read the rest of that. What a complete load of utter bullshiyt.

If only we lived in China, where freedom reigns supreme!

If only we lived in China, where freedom reigns supreme!

We were all born with freedom- even in China .Obviously there are those who listen to so called "authority" which tells them what to do while they yell how free they are.
Well...as long as they like it .

 

[TenPenny]

We were all born with freedom- even in China .Obviously there are those who listen to so called "authority" which tells them what to do while they yell how free they are.
Well...as long as they like it .

And there are those who think that copying and pasting compostable silliness is somehow commentary on politics.

Copying and pasting an idiot does not make a person look intelligent.

Some of us understand fertilizer. Others don't seem to.

 

[DaSleeper]

Red and white are the Canadian national colours.

White and red are the Polish national colours.

 

[TenPenny]

Red and white are the Canadian national colours.

White and red are the Polish national colours.

I thought Vodka was the official colour of Poland.

 

[gerryh]

I thought Vodka was the official colour of Poland.

so the 2 colours would be clear and yellow? clear going in and yellow coming out?

 

[Cliffy]

Our home on Native land! Liberal and Conservatives are equally guilty of selling us out to the international bankers. Fire the bums!

so the 2 colours would be clear and yellow? clear going in and yellow coming out?

... and yellow as in giving in to the Nazis and the Commies. It wasn't until the Solidarity movement that some of the Poles found their balls.

 

[china]

gerryh

BTW, did ya's hear what happened to the new subs for the polish navy? They forgot to shut the screen doors and they all sank.

[/QUOTE]

Willcocks: Submarine purchase gives navy that sinking feeling

I mostly write about provincial issues, but every now and then something comes along that's too bizarrely interesting to ignore.
By Times Colonist (Victoria) September 27, 2007 Be the first to post a comment
I mostly write about provincial issues, but every now and then something comes along that's too bizarrely interesting to ignore.
This time, it's Canada's submarines. I've made some misguided purchases in my day, but never anything that looked quite so dramatically flawed.
The HMCS Victoria is in drydock here and the Times Colonist has just reported on the state of the sub, a dispatch that had a a decidedly surreal quality.
The Victoria is one of the four used submarines Canada bought from Britain in 1998. The submarines, which had been mothballed by the Royal Navy, were touted as a good deal -- a way to get fairly modern equipment at a discount.
The plan called for the British to get the ship back in running order and Canada to take delivery in 2000. Officials said that once the Canadian navy took delivery, it would take about six months of service in Halifax to get the HMCS Victoria ready for service.
But the six months stretched into three years as more problems were discovered. The sub was finally ready in 2003 and sailed for Esquimalt, its home base, arriving with flags flying and a band waiting dockside to celebrate.
Then it went straight into 10 more months of repairs for new problems. It sailed for a few months after that until a fire on a sister sub, the Chicoutimi, killed a sailor on its voyage from England. The Victoria was then pulled from service for another seven months.
The sub was ready to sail again by May 2005. But by that fall it was into drydock here for what was supposed to be a two-year repair program. It should have been back at sea by now. But the TC reported the navy is now hoping for a 2009 launch. Making the submarine usable and safe is going to take almost four years -- twice as long as planned.
The submarines cost about $790 million when Canada bought them. There's no ready tally of the money sunk into them since, but the repairs and refits to the Victoria have more than equalled its purchase price.
And since Canada took possession in October 2000, the HMCS Victoria has actually been in service for 115 days -- about four months out of seven years. For every day of use, there have been three weeks of repairs and refitting.
By the time the sub is ready to go -- if it meets the new deadline -- it will have been out of service 96.5 per cent of the time since delivery.
It doesn't seem like a success story.
What's weird is that no one seems particularly perturbed that we spent hundreds of millions of dollars on submarines that mostly haven't worked in seven years. (Perhaps that's because a Liberal government made the purchase and the Conservatives are keen on building public support for the military.)
HMCS Victoria isn't an anomaly. Only one of the three other submarines is functioning today.
The Chicoutimi has been tied up since the fire; work will start on a major overhaul after the Victoria is done in 2009, meaning it will first see service 13 years after the purchase.
And just to be clear, these overhauls weren't part of the plan. When the navy bought the used submarines -- which had been mothballed by Britain for four years -- officers talked about them being in service by the end of 2001.
But the politicians, like the public, seem remarkably understanding about what looks like a bad deal.
What makes it even more worrying is that the Canadian Forces, in part because of the new combat role in Afghanistan and in part because of the supportive Conservative government, appear about to go on a shopping spree. They're looking at new fighters, a $4-billion purchase. New transport and search-and-rescue aircraft, $3.2 billion. A long list from the navy. Drones, artillery, tanks -- again, a second-hand deal. All in, the price tag is something like $22 billion and counting.
Given the experience with the submarines, that should make a lot of Canadians nervous. Especially because there seems to be some confusion about just what the equipment is for -- whether the government is preparing Canada for a succession of overseas wars like the one in Afghanistan.
I'm sure buying used subs is tricky. But by any objective standards -- including the ones the government and Canadian Forces brass set when they bought the ships -- this has gone wildly off the rails.
Footnote: So why submarines, anyway? Are we going to be sinking interlopers in Canadian waters or heading off to countries unknown to spy on their fleets? "Submarines excel at defending, surveillance and intelligence gathering," Sen. Colin Kenny, chairman of the Senate defence committee offered earlier this year. "Even with modern technology, submarines are difficult to detect. The mere presence of submarines defending Canada's coasts is a deterrent to potentially hostile vessels."
Assuming, of course, they aren't tied up being repaired.
pwillcocks@tc.canwest.com
© (c) CanWest MediaWorks Publications Inc.

 

[gerryh]

holy sheep shyte batman.... learn to fu cking cut and paste at least.

 

[Cliffy]

WTF!!!!! Ya posted the entire canada.com web site.

 

[china]

wasn't until the Solidarity movement that some of the Poles found their balls.

Hey big boy ....don't be a mouse and hide yourself behind the computer screen ,be a man tell that face to face to a Pole .Trust me you'll learn fast you little squirt .

 

[gerryh]

Hey big boy ....don't be a mouse and hide yourself behind the computer screen ,be a man tell that face to face to a Pole .Trust me you'll learn fast you little squirt .

roflmfao....... a comedian too.... didn't think there were communist comedians.

 

[karrie]

Dredging up old Op/Ed pieces from 2006 does NOT constitute 'news' in any way shape or form. This discussion has been moved to Canadian Politics.

 

[Avro]

Wow, tubby digs up an old piece by Coren, a professional Canada hater, who by the way is a Brit who moved and lives here.

Much like tubby when his mail order bride gave him the boot and he came back here for sympathy.

What a douche bag.:roll:

 

[damngrumpy]

Sad very sad indeed we the Canadian People, duped by our own lack of identity we must of
course continue to live with our blinders on so the world will love us. Give Me A Break.
Who ever wrote this must wear a tin foil hat to protect them from reality.
The Liberals did take the red and white color theme as it was available. The Tories seem to
like the colour blue, and the NDP change their colour theme after every election so what.
Yes Canadians are respectful of others is that a crime or did I miss something?
If you are going to be respected by others, first you have to be respectful toward others.

This is the rantings of the loony right, and should be considered for what it is. Every now and
then we hear from the looney left too. Why does this even see the light of day? Because every
now and then the media is bedeviled with a slow news day. Personally I like the CBC and other
Stations as well its good to hear the news from several points of view.
This is not something to react to it something to chuckle with. For who ever wrote this, my father
once said to me if you keep quiet son, no one will find out how ignorant you are. and in this case
it applies to the writer of such nonsense.