Multiple Schlerosis, skim-milk surplusses, and Quebec cheese makers...

[Omicron]

So, I was thinking...

1) Canada has the highest rate of MS (Multiple Sclerosis) in north America...

2) MSers aren't supposed to consume bovine fat, which means no beef, and no cheese made from cow's milk. Something about bovine fat triggers attacks... which means they can eat skim-milk cheese, but skim-milk cheese tastes lousy...

3) Canada also has huge stockpiles of powdered skim milk, because Canada manages its milk supply by skimming and powdering the surplus (Americans turn their surplus into cheddar... we turn ours into powdered skim milk... which we give away to poor countries about once every three years when the storage bins start getting full...)

4) The most talented cheese-makers in north America are in Quebec (or so they say...)

Therefore...

Why not get some skilled and creative Quebec cheese-makers (or anyone... there's some good ones in Alberta too...) to experiment with combinations of skim-milk and vegetable (i.e. olive) and/or fish oil (i.e. from sardines, which have the best levels of natural omega-3's) to make new types of cheese that are okay for MSers, but which tastes good.

Hmm... have those agro-researchers in Saskatchewan finished doing that genetic recon work to make it so canola oil has omega-3's and some of the fatty acids found in olive oil? If so, that would be the oil to start with.

Somewhere out there is a strain of yeast that will make delicious cheese out of skim-milk blended whatever kinds of fat/oil are safe for MSers to eat.

By the way... it would be good for white Caucasian males too, because bovine fat is a co-factor in triggering prostate cancer in males from a northwest European heritage.

We need to set up a competition to see who can create the best skim-milk/fish-and/or-vegetable oil cheese.

 

[petros]

Skimmed milk has no fat and plant fats are no good for humans.

 

[Omicron]

O course, we could always breed and/or genetically engineer a strain of cattle that makes healthier fat.

Skimmed milk has no fat and plant fats are no good for humans.

Well duh, of course skim-milk has no fat - what do people think they're skimming off when they skim it... the whole point of using it as the protein base for making bovine-fat free cheese is that it's fat free - and where in the world did you get the idea that vegetable fats are not good for humans?

Are you thinking of tropical oils, which have the same hydrogen saturation levels as animal fats?

Or maybe you're thinking of the tran-fats that result from hydrogenation of vegetable oils into margarine?

I'm not talking about using tropical oils nor hydrogenated vegetable oils... I'm talking about using things like olive oil (which is very healthy for humans) and/or fish oils to replace the bovine-fat in cheese.

Come to think of it, we could combine skim-milk with chicken or pork fat to make a cheese safer to eat for MSers and males with a northwest European heritage who don't want to get prostate cancer.

Hmm... I bet cheese made from skim-milk and bacon-fat would taste great, although that would probably bug the kosherites.

Anything... as long as it's not bovine fat.

 

[Chiliagon]

I drink Skim Milk!

have been for a while now..

 

[petros]

Enjoy the stones.

 

[Chiliagon]

where's your facts?

 

[Omicron]

I drink Skim Milk!

have been for a while now..

Yeah, me too. It's a bit odd at first, but once you adjust, the taste is great.

The problem is I have a friend with and a relative with MS, and they love cheese, but they're not supposed to eat any that's got cow-fat in it because cow-fat triggers MS attacks.

I also have a relative who got prostate cancer, and it was learned that for people of his northwest European heritage, he never should have been eating cheese made from cow's milk unless the fat had been skimmed off because bovine fat is a co-factor in triggering prostate cancer.

Skim milk cheese had always been an option, but it was too bland.

Which means, if some creative cheese maker could make a good blend of skim-milk with some fat other than that from cows, and find the right yeast, and figure out the right process, then there's definitely be a market for the product.

If I was a cheese maker I'd work on it myself, but I'm not, plus I'm already busy enough with other things that I don't have the time nor economic-imperative to motivate me into learning the craft, but if someone else could come up with something good, I know that I would buy it... and I know others who would too.

So... hmm... if we could set up a competition...

 

[Chiliagon]

yea I started on 2% back when I was a young kid.. and I can't remember when exactly but we switched to 1%.


then it's been 5 or 6 years now that I've been on Skim... I can't go back now.

 

[Omicron]

Enjoy the stones.

:roll: *sigh*... enjoy the osteoporosis.


Do you have any idea how much milk you'd have to drink to trigger kidney stones?

Even then you'd have to be living in a part of the country where the water is very hard.

 

[lone wolf]

Goat cheese (that ought to bring on the fun)

 

[Chiliagon]

:roll: *sigh*... enjoy the osteoporosis.


Do you have any idea how much milk you'd have to drink to trigger kidney stones?

Even then you'd have to be living in a part of the country where the water is very hard.

I have about 2 cups a day. 1 in my cereal and 1 at supper...

i'm sure that won't be causing any problems.

 

[Omicron]

Goat cheese (that ought to bring on the fun)

I like goat cheese (aka chevre cheese), plus there's always good ol' Norwegian ghetost.

It's just that even the good milker goats only produce a couple liters a day, whereas milker cows can produce more than 32 liters per day, so it could be done more efficiently on a large economic scale if we start with skimmed cows-milk.

I have about 2 cups a day. 1 in my cereal and 1 at supper...

i'm sure that won't be causing any problems.

You'd have to drink several gallons of milk a day to get even remotely close to the calcium levels required to precipitate kidney stones, and if you've ever had acid reflux and chewed on some tums you'll have easily surpassed the calcium content of any amount of milk a person's ever likely to drink over any reasonable period of time.

Cheese is essentially super-condensed milk, and when was the last time you heard warnings to avoid cheese else you'll get kidney stones?

Most trouble with kidney stones get reported from parts of the country with very hard tap water.

 

[Chiliagon]

ya not worried

 

[Omicron]

In any case, I have a friend and an important relative both of whom have stage one MS, and it's sad to watch him whimper and her sigh when they can't eat cheese because the bovine-fat content might trigger an attack, so if an enterprising cheese maker wants to invent something new based on combinations of skim-milk with non-bovine fats, and if it's delicious, it WILL be purchased!

Hmm... I can't stop thinking about cheese made from skim-milk and bacon fat... bwahahaha...

 

[karrie]

Sounds like something worth e-mailing the Food network or Oka about.

 

[Omicron]

Sounds like something worth e-mailing the Food network or Oka about.

Oka?

 

[petros]

Milk is for animals that grow 500kg in a year. No wonder people are fat.

 

[karrie]

Oka?

quebec cheese makers

 

[Chiliagon]

Milk is for animals that grow 500kg in a year. No wonder people are fat.

it's not that simple.

people who drink Milk don't necessarily get fat.

it's because they make lifestyle choices that lead towards it.

they eat way more than what they burn off, as well as what they choose to eat.

If you go to McDonalds or Wendy's BK more often and you don't exercise to combat it, you're gonna get fat.

people who do not exercise at all and eat like they're always hungry are going to end up being incredibly Obese!


then those who have Thyroid issues are a different story.

 

[karrie]

Milk is for animals that grow 500kg in a year. No wonder people are fat.

No, WHOLE milk is intended for animals that grow that much, and consumed in much larger quantities than humans consume it in on an individual level. Low levels of skim milk is not sufficient for excess weight gain.