New political party forming

[Machjo]

I took a look at the website but can't find who owns it or who is involved. Would you care to elaborate.. thanks

And where's the French-language version of that we page?

FD is a far right website, mostly radical social conservatives, anti abortion, anti birth control and so on, at least that's my take.

I wouldn't call it far right, but would say it's still far enough to the right to make the Conservative Party appear moderate left.

I hadn't come across much racism if any when I used to frequent that website years ago, or at least no explicit racism. That said, it is a rabidly nationalistic and ethnicist forum for the most part, hich makes me think there likely was racism hidden somewhare underneath.

But I can't imagine the explicit racism of some of the posts in this thread woudl have been tolerated even there.

 

[gerryh]

I took a look at the website but can't find who owns it or who is involved. Would you care to elaborate.. thanks

FD is a far right website, mostly radical social conservatives, anti abortion, anti birth control and so on, at least that's my take.

The whois info is minimal.

FD IS a far right conservative site. They didn't like being called on their hypocrisy and banned me when I questioned them concerning being anti-abortion but having no problem killing kids through their support of war.

 

[JLM]

Everything is political.

I guess on this you and I have to agree to disagree. For one thing I don't think work ethic is political and I don't think honesty is political.

 

[altonef]

Define genocide. If they're not murdering your or imposing their views on you, then it's not genocide. Get over it. Show you're a man and organize, determine a location, and move out there together. Bingo! Then you'll have your very own support network. Don't ask for us to pay for your beliefs with our freedoms. I may be caucasian, but immigration law affects me too by determining whom I can associate with. Freedom I say.

Article 2 section c of the 1948 United Nations Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide defines genocide as: deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life, calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part.

Cultural Genocide:

(a) Any action which has the aim or effect of depriving them of their integrity as distinct peoples, or of their cultural values or ethnic identities;

(d) Any form of assimilation or integration by other cultures or ways of life imposed on them by legislative, administrative or other measures;

(e) Any form of propaganda directed against them.

 

[Machjo]

Yeah, I got banned from that sensorious site a long time ago. They feel more comfortable as an echochamber for the choir.

I have to say though that seeing that even i'd gotten baned from their site, it doesn't surprise me in the least that you did too. I'd lasted almost a month if my memory serves me right. i bet you didn't last a day.

 

[gerryh]

I took it easy and felt em out.....2 days....lol

 

[Machjo]

Article 2 section c of the 1948 United Nations Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide defines genocide as: deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life, calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part.

Cultural Genocide:

(a) Any action which has the aim or effect of depriving them of their integrity as distinct peoples, or of their cultural values or ethnic identities;

(d) Any form of assimilation or integration by other cultures or ways of life imposed on them by legislative, administrative or other measures;

(e) Any form of propaganda directed against them.

And how have any of these been inflicted on you? On occasion I find myself surrounded exclusively by white people, and I didn't even plan it to be that way. So certainly you're competent enough to achieve the same conditions in a planned and methodical manner, no?

And Altonef, where's the policy platform on your website? You have two pages on there, both in English, the first devoid of substance and the second merely a joining page. Comes across as a little desperate in my book.

 

[DaSleeper]

I guess on this you and I have to agree to disagree. For one thing I don't think work ethic is political and I don't think honesty is political.

A lot of people depend on government to control everything in their lives
Labour regulations control employment ethics to a certain degree and there are laws to control your lack of honesty.....so in fact governments/politicians have their finger in just about every pie.
Just about everything you do is regulated:lol:

 

[Machjo]

A lot of people depend on government to control everything in their lives
Labour regulations control employment ethics to a certain degree and their are laws to control your lack of honesty.....so in fact governments/politicians have their finger in just about every pie.
Just about everything you do is regulated:lol:

Even the treatment of our sewage!

 

[Trotz]

1946, Citizenship Act

Canadians were considered British and/or British Subjects, until 1946.

Empire of the St. Lawrence ("Toronto and Quebec")

Thesis: Canada emerged out of the British Empire as the continuation of the Compagnie des Cent-Associés and Hudson Bay Company.


Nationalism in Canada

"Canadian", as opposed to British, Nationalism was attempted by Lester B. Pearson and Pierre Trudeau; unsuccessful in my opinion as in subsequent decades, Steven Harper acknowledged Quebec as a "nation within Canada", and provincialism is still present and growing with each subsequent decade.


Organic Relationship

There is no organic relationship linking Canadians together. Before contemporary multiculturalism, we were between various ethnic groupings: The British (including the Irish), the French, First Nations, Germans, Scandinavians and Slavs. Nevermind when religion was a more conscious agenda the nation was split between Protestantism and Catholicism.

Nowadays, it's more problematic because there are virtually communities from every single country in the world living in Canada.



Can there ever be a Canadian nation? Nations, in my opinion, are not things formed overnight. The German and Austrian nation had shared over a thousand years in the Holy Roman Empire and had an even more distant relationship going back to Nomadic tribes. The same can be said for the Chinese of the Yellow RIver, the Slavs in Eastern Europe, the Arab nations in Arabia, et al.


Depending on how you look at it there hasn't been a long history in North America, we never had a formal constitution in 1867 and didn't become fully independent until the 1982 Constitution.

Vertical Mosaic

Vertical Mosaic prevents the "American Melting Pot Phenomena" but in my opinion it is only serving to reinforce divides in our country, for better and for worst, I like the fact that Canadians can explore their ancestral roots and culture without being called "Un-Canadian" (or "Un-American" as they say in the Yankee states)

 

[Machjo]

Canada is still a baby in diapers crawling on all fours as far as nations go.

 

[Trotz]

Canada is still a baby in diapers crawling on all fours as far as nations go.

More like a drunk man in diapers,
there are countries in Europe with heavier population densities and nothing in comparison in regards to resources but surprisingly can still provide a near-free education system, give their students allowences, healthcare, an efficient military, et al.


Canada at the moment is comparable to the hick in a shack living on a mountain of gold. Nations would kill (and probably will in form of invasion) to have Canada's resources but how many Canadians can afford the half million and million dollar homes?

 

[JLM]

More like a drunk man in diapers,
there are countries in Europe with heavier population densities and nothing in comparison in regards to resources but surprisingly can still provide a near-free education system, give their students allowences, healthcare, an efficient military, et al.


Canada at the moment is comparable to the hick in a shack living on a mountain of gold. Nations would kill (and probably will in form of invasion) to have Canada's resources but how many Canadians can afford the half million and million dollar homes?

Nowhere in this world can you expect to get something for nothing for very long.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

I care a lot more about the survival of my people...

That's your problem right there. There's no my people and your people, we're all the same species, and as long as people keep drawing artificial lines between in groups and out groups as you're doing there will never be peace on earth. That's part of the problem, not part of the solution. Why not just admit you're promoting racism and ethnocentrism and be done with all this specious rationalization?

 

[JLM]

That's your problem right there. There's no my people and your people, we're all the same species, and as long as people keep drawing artificial lines between in groups and out groups as you're doing there will never be peace on earth. That's part of the problem, not part of the solution. Why not just admit you're promoting racism and ethnocentrism and be done with all this specious rationalization?

I guess that is what I was more or less driving at in my post but you've said it much more succinctly. :smile:

 

[Bar Sinister]

Just a question. Does the Founding Nations of Canada Party contain the usual racist policies typical of such parties? Oh wait; sorry your first post and link answered that question.

 

[damngrumpy]

gerryh you are right this person is not worth the effort their whole concept of life is based
on fear and hate or justifying their distorted images of life. I can't imagine living with that
kind of fear inside me all day every day. I don't know a single friend of mine, who is not white
that wants to end his culture, or eliminate or threaten the white race.
I have an adopted daughter who certainly is not white, and i don't want her threatened by
people like this either. Our family would look like a mini united nations and does when there is
a family reunion. I have a real problem trying to identify with this nonsense.
I did try one time to point out some of the mountains they would have to climb to get to the goal
of destroying our country, but even bringing up Cromwell didn't have any effect. I liked the
Cromwell bit, even though some said not even to go there. This individual should read up on
Oliver though, the people turned on him pretty quick in political terms.
Can't imagine there is still people like this around, shows we have come very far down the road
of human history. And gerry you are right won't waste my time and ink of this anymore.

 

[CDNBear]

It has nothing to do with "preserving English and French Canada," it has to do with returning to nineteenth century-style oppression.

How is curtailing mass immigration of specific ethnic origins oppressive?

 

[altonef]

That's your problem right there. There's no my people and your people, we're all the same species, and as long as people keep drawing artificial lines between in groups and out groups as you're doing there will never be peace on earth. That's part of the problem, not part of the solution. Why not just admit you're promoting racism and ethnocentrism and be done with all this specious rationalization?

Yes, you're absolutely right, we are all human but I don't see how that justifies genocide of white people. I want actual diversity, the people who claim the want diversity are actually in favor of destroying different ethnicities and cultures. No one's going to Korea and saying "you know what? we're all the same species, so we're going to create a blended humanity in only Korea" No one is going to Saudi Arabia and saying "You know what, we're all the same species, so we're going to create a blended humanity in only Saudi Arabia" Only white countries are doing it, Only White politicians are supporting it, it's genocide. By the way , in case you didn't know "racist" is a word used to bully and white person who stands up for themselves, the same as "heretic" was used hundreds of years ago.

 

[CDNBear]

Yes, you're absolutely right, we are all human but I don't see how that justifies genocide of white people. I want actual diversity, the people who claim the want diversity are actually in favor of destroying different ethnicities and cultures. No one's going to Korea and saying "you know what? we're all the same species, so we're going to create a blended humanity in only Korea" No one is going to Saudi Arabia and saying "You know what, we're all the same species, so we're going to create a blended humanity in only Saudi Arabia" Only white countries are doing it, Only White politicians are supporting it, it's genocide.

Not that I completely disagree with your point, but that is what makes us better then them.

By the way , in case you didn't know "racist" is a word used to bully and white person who stands up for themselves, the same as "heretic" was used hundreds of years ago.

Ain't that the truth. I'm not white persay, but because I do actually think in similar trends as yourself. I get branded that all the time. Although I lean towards slowing or ending cultural genocide as apposed to skin colours.