How about them Canucks!

JLM

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The rest of the division is a combined 26 - 31 - 6 and currently occupy 4 out of the five bottom positions in the conference. Adding Van, the division is five hundred. Against top teams the 'nucks are five hundred so far this season. Hardly impressive. Luongo isn't in the top 20 in save percentage or GAA.



The bottom team in the SE is near five hundred. The entire division is 42-34-6 (8 games better than the NW) With WSH and TBY, I'd hardly call it weak.

The bottom three teams in the S.E. are below .500. I think you may be better informed if you follow the rankings of the teams from week to week on ESPN.

NHL Hockey Power Rankings - Week 6 - National Hockey League - ESPN
 

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Rick, the Leafs look like the Canucks did about a year or so ago. They seem to have team speed but when they go into a full court press, their defense can't keep up.

Toronto look like they are trying for the first round first draft pick.

I sure as hell hope not! That pick goes to Boston due to the Kessel trade(and they also get the Leaf's 2nd round pick this year!).

I hate Wilson as a coach. They need to get rid of him, as it is obvious that the team does not want to play for him.
 

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I don't think the 'Nucks are as good as some people believe. They'll finish high in the standing simply because of the weak division they play in. A Stanley Cup parade in Vancouver is highly unlikely next spring.
It's easy to say the parade won't happen to any team. The odds are stacked against any team winning a cup.
 

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It's easy to say the parade won't happen to any team. The odds are stacked against any team winning a cup.

And judging by their records last season, who would have thought that Montreal would have made it to the Eastern Conference final? And that the winner of the EC would be Philadelphia?

It just goes to show you that anything can happen in the playoffs.:)
 

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The bottom three teams in the S.E. are below .500. I think you may be better informed if you follow the rankings of the teams from week to week on ESPN.

Better informed? Perhaps you could show me where anything in my post was inaccurate.

It's easy to say the parade won't happen to any team.

I didn't say it wouldn't happen to Vancouver. I said it was highly unlikely. I wouldn't say the same thing about DET, SJS, PHI, WSH, TBY or BOS.
 

Kreskin

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Better informed? Perhaps you could show me where anything in my post was inaccurate.



I didn't say it wouldn't happen to Vancouver. I said it was highly unlikely. I wouldn't say the same thing about DET, SJS, PHI, WSH, TBY or BOS.
The odds are against any of those teams winning a cup, so my point is it's quite easy to pick none winners.
 

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Better informed? Perhaps you could show me where anything in my post was inaccurate.



I didn't say it wouldn't happen to Vancouver. I said it was highly unlikely. I wouldn't say the same thing about DET, SJS, PHI, WSH, TBY or BOS.

The only team there that would be tough for Vancouver would be San Jose. It's about 60 games too early in the season to make any predictions. It will be interesting to see if St. Louis can maintain its early pace and Chicago may just be having a short nap.
 

Kreskin

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No point in pointing out the ridiculously obvious...the incredibly obvious will suffice.



...and my point is that the odds of a handful of teams are much better than the Canucks (sorry, I thought that was pretty clear).
I suppose that is a blinding glimpse of the obvious.
 

Kreskin

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It would seem not.
What you said is "A Stanley Cup parade in Vancouver is highly unlikely next spring". I would suggest that can be said about any team in these league because by statistical probability they're all highly unlikely to win.
 

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What you said is "A Stanley Cup parade in Vancouver is highly unlikely next spring". I would suggest that can be said about any team in these league because by statistical probability they're all highly unlikely to win.

You can "suggest" anything you want.
 

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Statistically speaking the chances of a team winning the Stanley cup are about 3.3% - if they make the playoffs it soars to about 61/4%.
 

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.....and my point is that the odds of a handful of teams are much better than the Canucks (sorry, I thought that was pretty clear).

Vancouver is in fourth place but they are moving up fast . They will likely be in first place at the end of this road trip.

Handful of teams much better than the Canucks
??? Who? Where? How many is a handful? Right at this second, three teams are higher in the standings than the Canucks and the Canucks have a game or so in hand. If these teams were "much better", why is Vancouver only a couple points back?
 

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Vancouver is in fourth place but they are moving up fast . They will likely be in first place at the end of this road trip.

Handful of teams much better than the Canucks??? Who? Where? How many is a handful? Right at this second, three teams are higher in the standings than the Canucks and the Canucks have a game or so in hand. If these teams were "much better", why is Vancouver only a couple points back?

I'd say right now Canucks chances are as good as anyone.
 

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Statistically speaking the chances of a team winning the Stanley cup are about 3.3% - if they make the playoffs it soars to about 61/4%.

....If you don't take into account their rosters maybe. Only a fool would say that the Wings and the Leaves have an equal chance at the cup.
 

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I'd say right now Canucks chances are as good as anyone.
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And a lot of people around the league are watching the Canucks and saying they like what they see-watch some games from different places on the net and listen to commentators I have and am pleasantly surprised.

I'm not surprised that the sour grapes here are coming from Alberta-a formerly hockey rich province that is well into the toilet and looks destined to stay there for the foreseeable future.
 

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And judging by their records last season, who would have thought that Montreal would have made it to the Eastern Conference final? And that the winner of the EC would be Philadelphia?

It just goes to show you that anything can happen in the playoffs.:)

ain't that the truth. Doesn't matter where any team is in the standings, with exception of those who
are 'way down', it's early in the season, some teams got out to a fast start, some didn't, others are
somewhere in the middle.

Depends what teams are playing who at the moment. Depends if teams keep winning in their own division,
how they look at the moment. Those who give statements of 'how' good some are compared to 'others' are
just whistlin in the wind, give the statement once a week all season, and see how often the tune
changes.

Your're right Kreskin the stanley cup will evade 29 teams this year, and the team who wins it, probably
won't have been everyone's choice, just like last year.

One very important aspect of success is - injuries (non), and what team is peaking at the right time,
after trade deadline anytime up to playoffs.

eg. chicago won the cup last year, but nashville was an eyelash away from beating them, and outplayed
chicago most of the round, but didn't win, it was fortunate for chicago that they won, and that series
showed them how to 'work', (they were lazy, and thought they just had to show up),and set them up for success the rest of the way.

What teams get to play what teams are a big factor of success or failure in the playoffs.

This business of what team is higher right now, or lower means nothing.