The crime of the canadian banking system:

[mayety]

Watch these videos:

YouTube - THE CRIME OF THE CANADIAN BANKING SYSTEM: Bill Abram (part 1
and there are 3 more Parts to the right on that page.

I am suspecting from this that it was Trudeau who failed us by getting us into a Central Banking system, just like the USA.

Take a look at our prosperity up to 1970 and then how the deficit just kept rising after the change!

We are on a debt-based monetary system and I must watch again to see about fractional reserve banking. Been too busy watching America make an ass of itself!!

Was he influenced by an American? I see he and Chretien were in the Bilderburg Group!

We must take out country back too!

No North American Union!

 

[Cliffy]

Am I the only one who remembers that Trudeau's kid disappeared for a day or two? Before that he refused to cow tow to the Yanks. After that he became putty in their hands. I'm pretty sure I didn't dream that up, but I may be wrong. He had the power to print money from our own bank but after that he started borrowing from the World Bank. Seems to me he had his balls squeezed.

If you think that we can go against the grain on our own, you live in a dream world. There is a really good reason Harpo has his head up US butt.

 

[MapleOne]

We need a peoples party dedicated to lowering taxes without cutting programs.

How do we do that?

Mind our own business, remove ourselves from all foreign affairs and focus on cleaning up our backyard first. We cannot preach our force our opinions onto others and the sooner or government (and others) figure this out the more taxes we will save.

We need tighter regulations to assure seniors do not get bilked out of their savings and that tax money is spent as wisely as if it was our own savings. I guess technically taxes are our savings so we have to make sure we are all heard.

The canadian banking system should be forced to participate in a small percentage of government lending programs. If not we should open a people bank with the focus of lending to more small businesses.

 

[JLM]

We need a peoples party dedicated to lowering taxes without cutting programs.

How do we do that?

Mind our own business, remove ourselves from all foreign affairs and focus on cleaning up our backyard first. We cannot preach our force our opinions onto others and the sooner or government (and others) figure this out the more taxes we will save.

We need tighter regulations to assure seniors do not get bilked out of their savings and that tax money is spent as wisely as if it was our own savings. I guess technically taxes are our savings so we have to make sure we are all heard.

The canadian banking system should be forced to participate in a small percentage of government lending programs. If not we should open a people bank with the focus of lending to more small businesses.

You are talking about Utopia or is it Socialism? Remove ourselves from foreign affairs? Do you drink coffee or eat oranges? As the world gets smaller, there has to be more and more foreign involvement. Do we want to be the "rich uncle" who has nothing to do with the rest of the family? We don't need tighter regulations to save seniors from getting bilked, we need smarter seniors and that is done by education and maybe caring friends and relatives who look out for mentally fragile seniors. Every loop hole you get closed up, two or three more open. It's a dog eat dog world where there are winners and losers.
BAck to your first sentence of cutting taxes but not programs..................that will NOT work. The answer is to make people more self reliant so they don't need "programs". We should start by getting rid of organized crime and put every resource we have into that, once that is done, most of the other problems will be solved.

 

[TenPenny]

Trudeau got us into a central banking system?

 

[MapleOne]

If you remove waste (ie example the Afghanistan war) then we have more to put toward social programs without having to increase taxes. So yes there is room for better programs and less taxes, we just have to be smarter about where we contribute.

Also, by minding our own business we would return to the neutrality which Canadians were famous for. We are peacekeepers, we are not war makers. I am against involving ourselves in other peoples wars.

I'm all for defending our great white north from foreign invadors but for me that is where it ends. I cannot condone war of any kind with Canadian involvement outside our borders. We should be the ones to come in as peacekeepers to negotiate an end to war not to participate in one.

Canada would have a lot more money and we could focus on our social programs without extra spending. Does that make me a socialist? I really can't answer that because I don't know the answer to that one myself.

 

[JLM]

If you remove waste (ie example the Afghanistan war) then we have more to put toward social programs without having to increase taxes. So yes there is room for better programs and less taxes, we just have to be smarter about where we contribute.

Also, by minding our own business we would return to the neutrality which Canadians were famous for. We are peacekeepers, we are not war makers. I am against involving ourselves in other peoples wars.

I'm all for defending our great white north from foreign invadors but for me that is where it ends. I cannot condone war of any kind with Canadian involvement outside our borders. We should be the ones to come in as peacekeepers to negotiate an end to war not to participate in one.

Canada would have a lot more money and we could focus on our social programs without extra spending. Does that make me a socialist? I really can't answer that because I don't know the answer to that one myself.

Make peace with Al Queda and Taliban? Unrealistic! :smile:

 

[DurkaDurka]

If you remove waste (ie example the Afghanistan war) then we have more to put toward social programs without having to increase taxes. So yes there is room for better programs and less taxes, we just have to be smarter about where we contribute.

Also, by minding our own business we would return to the neutrality which Canadians were famous for. We are peacekeepers, we are not war makers. I am against involving ourselves in other peoples wars.

I'm all for defending our great white north from foreign invadors but for me that is where it ends. I cannot condone war of any kind with Canadian involvement outside our borders. We should be the ones to come in as peacekeepers to negotiate an end to war not to participate in one.

Canada would have a lot more money and we could focus on our social programs without extra spending. Does that make me a socialist? I really can't answer that because I don't know the answer to that one myself.

So the Canadian citizens killed in 911, we should just ignore that and threaten them with peacekeeping? lol

Propagating the great "Peacekeepers" myth I see. You realize your contradictions when you say we are "peacekeepers" yet you are against involving our selves in other peoples wars? How exactly do you keep the peace between warring nations without involving one's self in their war?

Yup, you definitely a socialist.

 

[JLM]

That's how I had him pegged. Or completely unrealistic. Socialism works really well until someone else's money runs out. :lol::lol::lol:

 

[MapleOne]

Hmm, all these people pegging me

HeHe, I'm glad I have time to discuss some of my right wing ideas too :lol:

 

[JLM]

Hmm, all these people pegging me

HeHe, I'm glad I have time to discuss some of my right wing ideas too :lol:

Yep, you're in competition here with people who have "been through the mill". NOw let's hear your "right wing" ideas. :smile::smile:

 

[Cliffy]

So the Canadian citizens killed in 911, we should just ignore that and threaten them with peacekeeping? lol

Propagating the great "Peacekeepers" myth I see. You realize your contradictions when you say we are "peacekeepers" yet you are against involving our selves in other peoples wars? How exactly do you keep the peace between warring nations without involving one's self in their war?

Yup, you definitely a socialist.

And why do we need troops to keep peace. What we need is a council of elders who have the capacity to negotiate peace. We should be peace makers not peace keepers.

As for Al Quida and the Taliban, they don't exist any more. Al Quida was always a myth and the Taliban have been wiped out. We are fighting peasants whose families we killed with "friendly fire". There is no need for war. There is need to treat people with respect, understanding and honour.

We make war for profit. It is the only reason we have ever made war in the history of man. There are no altruistic reasons for Afghanistan. We went on a hunting trip and when the prey was gone we were stuck with the lies we used to go there, so we made a whole new batch of lies and now we are stuck in a useless and costly war that nobody wants or can afford. Humans are just plain stupid. We get the government we deserve.

 

[JLM]

Gotta disagree here, Cliff. Someone is placing those I.E.D.s and I doubt if it's the local farmers. Do you think Osama bin Laden is a reformed man? Anyway whatever they are called there are still lots of evil bastards in the world and you can't make peace with them. :smile:

 

[MapleOne]

Anyway whatever they are called there are still lots of evil bastards in the world and you can't make peace with them. :smile:

Agreed, but you don't have to go to war with an entire country to get rid of a few evil people? Educate the people and provide them with the tools to fight the evil in their midst. Look at Romania as an example, the people overthrew the evil doers.

On this one I definitely side with Cliffy

 

[Cliffy]

Gotta disagree here, Cliff. Someone is placing those I.E.D.s and I doubt if it's the local farmers. Do you think Osama bin Laden is a reformed man? Anyway whatever they are called there are still lots of evil bastards in the world and you can't make peace with them. :smile:

Bin Laden is dead. Has been for years. I could make an I.E.D. in my basement. It ain't high tech. I could make a Claymore too if I wanted to. We are fighting peasants over there that do not have the sophisticated artillery we have and they are kicking our butts with antiquated arms. There will always be evil doers out thee but unless they attack us, we have no business invading other countries. Al Quida never attacked the twin towers. Bin Laden was just the fall guy. He died in a US military hospital in Dubai 9 or 10 years ago. And no, there is not enough evidence to prove that to those who chose to believe the official lies and propaganda fed them by the US and corporate media.

 

[TenPenny]

Also, by minding our own business we would return to the neutrality which Canadians were famous for. We are peacekeepers, we are not war makers. I am against involving ourselves in other peoples wars.

I see what you mean. We're famous for not being involved in the Boer War, WW1, WW2, Korea, etc etc.

 

[JLM]

Agreed, but you don't have to go to war with an entire country to get rid of a few evil people? Educate the people and provide them with the tools to fight the evil in their midst. Look at Romania as an example, the people overthrew the evil doers.

On this one I definitely side with Cliffy

Taking Afghanistan for instance- are we at war with the entire country? :smile:

 

[MapleOne]

I see what you mean. We're famous for not being involved in the Boer War, WW1, WW2, Korea, etc etc.

In RECENT history our Canadian peacekeepers were world famous. I was stunned to see us go to war in Afghanistan. We practically invented the blue peacekeeper beret.

Taking Afghanistan for instance- are we at war with the entire country? :smile:

Good point - I guess it does seem like it though. Sometimes I don't think even their leaders want us there.

 

[TenPenny]

I was stunned to see us go to war in Afghanistan.

Well, if that 'stunned' you, then perhaps you might want to brush up on what it means to be part of NATO.

Then it might not be so surprising.

 

[MapleOne]

I know what that means!!

It means you sit on your hands and talk about what we could do

Hee Hee, where is the hilarious emoticon when I need it :lol: