Iraq, some real truths.

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Wait a second are you saying that because asbestos was not deemed a carcinogen prior to it's discovery and manufacturing then it is not a problem? Even knowing what everyone in the world knows about asbestos now?
I'm saying the scientists who deemed asbestos as being safe were incompetent, that seems to be more of a normal thing than a rarity. You might be suffering from their incompetence in that you cannot understand an easy to read sentence. lol
 

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I'm saying the scientists who deemed asbestos as being safe were incompetent, that seems to be more of a normal thing than a rarity. You might be suffering from their incompetence in that you cannot understand an easy to read sentence. lol

What does that have to do with anything?

I see that since you got that argument stuffed back in your mouth you can only call me incompetent and lol?
 

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EagleSmack said...
I suppose I could post all kinds of links on how harmful asbestos is but that does not seem to bother you as much now does it? Because it does not involve the US and doesn't have that impact you are looking for.

USA Bad- DU
Canada Good!- asbestos
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Actually I took the view of the person I believed more, I just explained that to you.
Where are the tests for asbestos safety that were done before it went into wide-spread use? Since it was deemed to be safe perhaps the ones in charge of public safety fell flat on their ass.

Did everyone get a promotion from that fuk-up?

I'm saying the scientists who deemed asbestos as being safe were incompetent, that seems to be more of a normal thing than a rarity. You might be suffering from their incompetence in that you cannot understand an easy to read sentence. lol

Are you aware of all the studies in antiquity that stated this that or the other thing was safe, only later to be found otherwise?

It's called evolution. It even happens in the field of science and research. It's even been known to happen to forum members, present company excluded.

That said, your post negates the fact that Canada is still selling asbestos over seas. If you don't support that, please say so. Your post would seem to indicate that you don't mind that Canada sells poison to the citizens third world countries, while the US uses DU to quell armies.

Highlights to indicate major differences, in end uses.

What does that have to do with anything?

I see that since you got that argument stuffed back in your mouth you can only call me incompetent and lol?
That's mhz SOP bru.
 

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Sunnis go to church?

I left that part alone. He invested in building Christian Churches? That would be news to me.

Nevertheless, Saddam did focus just about every resource on Sunnis and himself. On the flip side he persecuted Shyites (spelled incorrectly on purpose to get by the "Es Ech Eye Tee" catcher) and Kurds and did very little to assist them.
 

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What does that have to do with anything?

I see that since you got that argument stuffed back in your mouth you can only call me incompetent and lol?
You are putting faith is some saying DU is safe, the same ones will also promote the Gulf oil spill is nothing to worry about, go ahead and check up on the health issues from the ones who worked on Exxon's spill.


See what I mean about your reading comprehension.

You might be suffering from their incompetence in that you cannot understand an easy to read sentence. lol

Perhaps you have selective blindness, hopefully it is that as there is a cure and you have it already inside you. If it has another cause it will likely get worse.
 

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Sunnis go to church?

I'm searching the INet... I'm coming up short on Saddam Hussein's Church Building initiative.

You wouldn't by chance have a link would you?

You are putting faith is some saying DU is safe, the same ones will also promote the Gulf oil spill is nothing to worry about, go ahead and check up on the health issues from the ones who worked on Exxon's spill.

DU is not safe. I wouldn't want to be in a T-55 with a DU round coming at me. I also wouldn't want to lick the inside of a tank that was struck by a DU round.


See what I mean about your reading comprehension.

You might be suffering from their incompetence in that you cannot understand an easy to read sentence. lol

It seems to me that you are the one actually having trouble comprehending and explaining yourself.

Unless of course you are saying there is a direct link between asbestos poisoning and learning difficulties. If so, you are sadly misinformed and are a simple troll.

"lol" at that.
 
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MHz

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Are you aware of all the studies in antiquity that stated this that or the other thing was safe, only later to be found otherwise?
It's called evolution. It even happens in the field of science and research.
It's bad science if you don't know what the effects of the product you are promoting. Even the reversing of the 'endorsement' is never easily done.

The way it works is, put it out there and if any proof show it is dangerous, stall until the supplies are used up. The asbestos sales are out of greed, DU is used for it's long term effects.

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"The Canadian market has collapsed. Ditto the U.S. market. An asbestos ban across the European Union has been in place for more than a decade in recognition of the mineral's pariah status as a deadly carcinogen."

"The marketplace is crying for chrysotile," he says of his flourishing client base in India, Vietnam and Indonesia, where asbestos/cement sheets and roofing are seen by advocates as a huge social benefit to the poor and the needy. "I have a letter of interest from 15 of my biggest customers asking me for volume."
Meet Quebec's 'Mr. Asbestos' - thestar.com

Those 3 places named aren't going to say squat aboiut the dangers to the 'poor and the needy'. You can bet they won't be using that material in the home of the 'affluent'.
 

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It's bad science if you don't know what the effects of the product you are promoting. Even the reversing of the 'endorsement' is never easily done.

Look it up MHz. Back to 100 AD the Greeks and Romans were noticing their slaves who weave asbestos dying of lung disease. Evidence grows as the years rolled on.

The way it works is, put it out there and if any proof show it is dangerous, stall until the supplies are used up. The asbestos sales are out of greed, DU is used for it's long term effects.

Oh please.

DU is used to kill tanks on the spot, not to poison. Just like asbestos is used for buiding materials and not to poison.

Unless you want me to play Devil's Advocate and say the intent of Canada is to kill people in 3rd World Nations slowly by exporting asbestos.

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"The Canadian market has collapsed. Ditto the U.S. market. An asbestos ban across the European Union has been in place for more than a decade in recognition of the mineral's pariah status as a deadly carcinogen."

Yet Canada produces 10% of the world's asbestos behind only Russia, China, and Khazakhstan and ahead of Brazil.

"The marketplace is crying for chrysotile," he says of his flourishing client base in India, Vietnam and Indonesia, where asbestos/cement sheets and roofing are seen by advocates as a huge social benefit to the poor and the needy. "I have a letter of interest from 15 of my biggest customers asking me for volume."
Meet Quebec's 'Mr. Asbestos' - thestar.com

Those 3 places named aren't going to say squat aboiut the dangers to the 'poor and the needy'. You can bet they won't be using that material in the home of the 'affluent'.

Not much outrage about that though is there?
 

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Unless you want me to play Devil's Advocate and say the intent of Canada is to kill people in 3rd World Nations slowly by exporting asbestos.
Go for it, I would totally support your condemnation.
Think any home owners in those countries will get a MSDS fact-sheet ?

Greed is the motive, the Canadian owners (of the asbestos mine) don't care about those countries or the poor and needy that live there. So get some lawyers and go start a class action suit, oh yeah, the poor and needy never get lawyers or a court-case. Perhaps if you asked the owners how much asbestos they have in their home will give a true look into if they consider it dangerous or not.

Yet Canada produces 10% of the world's asbestos behind only Russia, China, and Khazakhstan and ahead of Brazil.

Not much outrage about that though is there?
For the countries than banned it do they also spread the word to other Nations?
(same link)
The surprise is that Coulombe believes the mine has a future. While the open pit peters toward depletion – production this year totalled just 40,000 tonnes from a peak of more than 600,000 tonnes per annum – the Jeffrey mine in the town of Asbestos has moved toward Plan B, development of a vast underground deposit.
"We have here a huge proven reserve of chrysotile asbestos," says Coulombe, meaning that the size of the ore body has been sufficiently drilled to determine not the scope of reserves that might be there, but the size of reserves that are there and are extractable. "We have 200 million tonnes of proven ore reserves. It's good for the next 50 years."

Seem like he plans to up production to 4M tonnes / year. That is for money in his own pocket it has nothing to do with compassion for the poor and needy to get better housing.