All those who don't believe Quebec is a distinct society, I have a question for you - do you understand the difference between the Quebec civil code and the system of laws in the rest of Canada? Does this not make Quebec distinct?
Independence for Quebec
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Quebec is also distinct because it's in a different location than the others. It's also distinct because it's a different shape than the rest. Does that mean it should have different laws concerning crown land?
HAHAHAHAHA don't make me laugh. Quebec wouldn't last 10 years on their own. All they do is suck Canada dry of our money and whine all day long about becoming a "distinct society". Don't be so f*cking conceited. Who the hell do you even think you are? Quebec is WORTHLESS without Canada. All Quebec does is whine and nag about separating. If you want to separate then do it. But don't ask Canada for any help. Go on, try it. Try to become your own country. I want to see Quebec come crawling back to Canada begging for forgiveness when they become too poor to support themselves. All Quebec does is whine and nag about separating. If you want to separate then do it. You pieces of crap think you're SOOOOO great just because you speak a different language. Lots of people speak more than one language. So get it through your retarded heads that you're special in no way and that you are nothing without Canada. Now shut the f*ck up and stay as a province like everyone else, you whiny, ungreatful peices of f*cking sh*t.
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Sounds more like another whiner that doesn't know much on the subject
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Ron,
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The act of becomming independant by Quebec, would speel doom for itself and for the rest of Canada. Thankfully, the majority of the population in the province realize this.
Quebec would be a tiny country, with no influence, little to export and would quickly become impoverished.
The Maritime provinces would most likely very quickly move to join the USA.
Ontario would totally and completely dominate what is left of Canada. That would force the Prairie Provinces to also move to join the USA, leaving BC isolated.
Within about 30-50 years, BC would also join the US, because it could not economically survive by itself, and it would have no real connection with Ontario, who would suck the money out of the province, while giving it very little in return.
About 25-40 years after BC fell, Ontario would also fall and become another part of the USA. Quebec would just remain this tiny, impoverished country, that was utterly helpless in the world. It would also eventually petition the USA to join, and in the process lose it's entire French identity.
Be very careful what you wish for. You just MIGHT get it.
Quebec would be a tiny country, with no influence, little to export and would quickly become impoverished.
The Maritime provinces would most likely very quickly move to join the USA.
Ontario would totally and completely dominate what is left of Canada. That would force the Prairie Provinces to also move to join the USA, leaving BC isolated.
Within about 30-50 years, BC would also join the US, because it could not economically survive by itself, and it would have no real connection with Ontario, who would suck the money out of the province, while giving it very little in return.
About 25-40 years after BC fell, Ontario would also fall and become another part of the USA. Quebec would just remain this tiny, impoverished country, that was utterly helpless in the world. It would also eventually petition the USA to join, and in the process lose it's entire French identity.
Be very careful what you wish for. You just MIGHT get it.
I wouldn't say Quebec get lost.... just the seperatist quebecois. They can all take a step of the niagra escarpment for all I care.
I think you underestimate the resolve of provincial governments - especially provincial governments that are freed of the auspices of Federal Government.
Why do you assume a hostile "all-or-nothing" collapse of Canada? Quebec almost left Canada twice on relatively peaceful terms.
Even in a hostile break up - as we saw in 1991 with the collapse of the Soviet Union (a Federation) in 1991 - the successor states still enjoy good trading relations.
Hold on a second we're talking about British Columbia not Manitoba.... :lol:
You make it sound that we're a "have not" province. Our past Premier W.A.C. Bennett threatened to take British Columbia and Yukon out of the Federation over a river dispute and Ottawa was surprisingly fast in responding to our grievances. ;-) :lol:
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Never underestimate the amount of anti-American sentiment in Canada, particularly when the US has a president like George Bush. All of the Canadian provinces with the possible exception of PEI are viable economic units. BC in partcular has vast resources as do all of the provinces west of the Atlantic provinces. The loss of Quebec would be no more likely to spur a movement to join the US than would the fact that Alaska is separated from the rest of the US has spurred a movement in that state to join Canada. I suspect you are right about Quebec slolwy losing its identity, but that will happen anyway whether it separates or not. As for the rest of Canada, even without Quebec it would be physically as large as the USA and possessed of vast resources. I see no reason why it could not continue as before.
IF Quebec ever got their independence. they should get NO help from Canada.. nothing!
they'll have to start from scratch without any assistance from us.. they wanna leave our country? fine but you get no special treatment!
they'll have to start from scratch without any assistance from us.. they wanna leave our country? fine but you get no special treatment!
Actually, I think he is right that the country would splinter instead of giving into domination of Ontario. Alberta has chafed under the "eastern" yoke for the past couple decades and would probably be the next to exit Confederation, once the bonds were weakened. BC and the rest of the western provinces have felt that same isolation from Ottawa, going back to Trudeau's regime: it ebbs and flows but its still there. I don't know if or how quickly any of the provinces would join the US, especially given the anti-American sentiment in parts of the country (although this seems to be more in Ontario, Quebec and BC than the Prairies or most of the Maritimes).
I also have a hard time with the claim that "All of the Canadian provinces with the possible exception of PEI are viable economic units." when for the past 40-50 years MOST of the provinces have not shown themselves to be. For years at least 3 of the 10 provinces have needed transfer payments from Ottawa to maintain their level of gov't services and unemployment levels have pressured many skilled workers and professionals from these areas to seek employment in those areas of the country that aren't as depressed.
The previous referendums may have been peaceful but I think you underestimate a) the hostility they engendered in the rest of Canada and b) the trading partnerships aren't as internalized in Canada as they were in the former USSR. The Soviets bred an interdependance in the regions over 70 odd years, where most Canadian trading opportunites are north-south more than east-west. When you couple those two facts, I can see Canadians boycotting Quebec products and services (and pressuring their politicians to do this in gov't as well), especially when they can get most (if not all) of those products and services elsewhere with minimal effort.
Why aren't there ever any monolingual French-speaking Canadians in these forums sharing their ideas on this issue? Without them here, the discussion is a little lop-sided, no?
The fact that these provinces received transfer payments does not necessarily mean that they needed them. Even "poor" Canadian provinces are rich compared to most of the world.
And people move because they can. If they had to depend entirely on their own resources I suspect they might do a little better. Migration is sort of a double edged sword. For decades provinces like Saskatchewan have seen a steady outflow of population. In fact Saskatchewan's population hardly changed between 1935 and 2000. This helped those residents who fled the province, but the continual outflow of people probably damaged the province overall by lowering its tax and consumer base. However, we will never know for certain since migration was a convenient and often used solution.
I'm not sure I'd go quite that far as I think it is advantageous for Canada to remain contiguous from sea to sea, BUT, I'm sure we could struggle along fine without them or their whining. :lol::lol::lol::lol:
Poor comparisons, neither of them have another country blocking their access to the rest of the U.S.