Tory G8 abortion stance
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When you get yourself "painted into a corner", you have to be fairly selective about what questions you answer. :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
What rights should a fetus have?
I vaguely remember a case (though I can't remember if it was in the US or Canada, but it was some years ago) where one politician had proposed a law whereby if a fetus was aborted owing to the mother being physically assaulted, the perpetrator should be charged with murder.
Not surprisingly, the pro-choice movement vehemently opposed the law, likely because they could see the implications of it.
This though does lead to other questions. On the one hand, if a woman chooses to abort in Canada, that is her legal right at the moment. However, I'm not sure of the position if an abortion is caused by a physical assault on the mother.
This also leads to other questions. Let's say the mother consumes drugs and alcohol, even if it's of the legal kinds of drugs like nicotine though it could also include illegal drugs like opium, etc. Should the law have a right to protect the fetus from the mother by forcing her into rehabilitation, considering the risk he poses for the post-birth life of that child? Or are there cases where you'd propose that the government force the mother to have an abortion?
How much legal protection should a fetus have if any, especially when his post-birth life could be harmed?
I vaguely remember a case (though I can't remember if it was in the US or Canada, but it was some years ago) where one politician had proposed a law whereby if a fetus was aborted owing to the mother being physically assaulted, the perpetrator should be charged with murder.
Not surprisingly, the pro-choice movement vehemently opposed the law, likely because they could see the implications of it.
This though does lead to other questions. On the one hand, if a woman chooses to abort in Canada, that is her legal right at the moment. However, I'm not sure of the position if an abortion is caused by a physical assault on the mother.
This also leads to other questions. Let's say the mother consumes drugs and alcohol, even if it's of the legal kinds of drugs like nicotine though it could also include illegal drugs like opium, etc. Should the law have a right to protect the fetus from the mother by forcing her into rehabilitation, considering the risk he poses for the post-birth life of that child? Or are there cases where you'd propose that the government force the mother to have an abortion?
How much legal protection should a fetus have if any, especially when his post-birth life could be harmed?
Re: What rights should a fetus have?
Spirituality AND PHILOSOPHY, to be precise. Since this is more of a universal question of what rights we believe a fetus should have, it's not limited to Canadian or any other politics, but is in fact a philosophical question too.
And some might view it as relevant to spirituality too.
Spirituality AND PHILOSOPHY, to be precise. Since this is more of a universal question of what rights we believe a fetus should have, it's not limited to Canadian or any other politics, but is in fact a philosophical question too.
And some might view it as relevant to spirituality too.
Re: What rights should a fetus have?
Recreational sex is a sin. and thus killing a fetus is a sin. I worry not, there is no pain. But those accused... or not will die for their sins as murders. A man who endures a woman and kills her fetus is to be put to death as if he killed another human being. But as men are not the judges of men he will be die by God's will over ours.
A fetus has no rights, but God love shis life more the that who takes it away.
Have you heard of the man God killed for spilling his sperm before his deceased brothers wife? answers your question in a pretty simple manner.
Because this is a very touchy matter.
Recreational sex is a sin. and thus killing a fetus is a sin. I worry not, there is no pain. But those accused... or not will die for their sins as murders. A man who endures a woman and kills her fetus is to be put to death as if he killed another human being. But as men are not the judges of men he will be die by God's will over ours.
A fetus has no rights, but God love shis life more the that who takes it away.
Have you heard of the man God killed for spilling his sperm before his deceased brothers wife? answers your question in a pretty simple manner.
Re: What rights should a fetus have?
There is nothing spiritual OR philosophical about murder.
and what does recreational sex have to do with abortion?
There is nothing spiritual OR philosophical about murder.
and what does recreational sex have to do with abortion?
Re: What rights should a fetus have?
Recreational sex is the only reason you need t have abortions, lack of diction, DUMB ASS!
Recreational sex is the only reason you need t have abortions, lack of diction, DUMB ASS!
Re: What rights should a fetus have?
Is rape recreational sex or perhaps a medical condition the women may have that can threaten the mothers life?
Is rape recreational sex or perhaps a medical condition the women may have that can threaten the mothers life?
Re: What rights should a fetus have?
Really now, you don't think it might be about control?
Really now, you don't think it might be about control?
Re: What rights should a fetus have?
Since this thread is bouncing around like a ping pong ball, I'll try to focus it with a few simple questions:
If I punch a woman in the stomach, there is no doubt that that constitutes assault. But let's say my act kills the baby in her womb. Should that also constitute murder or not?
Since this thread is bouncing around like a ping pong ball, I'll try to focus it with a few simple questions:
If I punch a woman in the stomach, there is no doubt that that constitutes assault. But let's say my act kills the baby in her womb. Should that also constitute murder or not?
Re: What rights should a fetus have?
we're talking about having sex. Other contributions tot he rapists thoughts are irrelevant to the fact it's happening.
If I play a game, I'm recreationaly gaming, whether I plan on destroying the noobs on the other end or not.
we're talking about having sex. Other contributions tot he rapists thoughts are irrelevant to the fact it's happening.
If I play a game, I'm recreationaly gaming, whether I plan on destroying the noobs on the other end or not.
Re: What rights should a fetus have?
we should care less, but yes. In the end God will not forghive you regardless and punishment is insued.
we should care less, but yes. In the end God will not forghive you regardless and punishment is insued.
Re: What rights should a fetus have?
Are you acting out your World of Warcraft fantasies on here?
Are you acting out your World of Warcraft fantasies on here?
Re: What rights should a fetus have?
If I'm a woman who decides that I want to keep my baby but also want to enjoy alcohol on a regular basis. How ought society deal with that? If I'm a poor mother who can't eat well owing to poverty, what responsibility does society as a whole have to help her maintain the health and wellbeing of the infant in her womb?
If I'm a woman who decides that I want to keep my baby but also want to enjoy alcohol on a regular basis. How ought society deal with that? If I'm a poor mother who can't eat well owing to poverty, what responsibility does society as a whole have to help her maintain the health and wellbeing of the infant in her womb?