Drunk driving laws

[talloola]

You act like drinking is new to society. :x.

So in the case of impaired driving, it's guilty until proven innocent?

I've seen the death and destruction from drunk driving for
many many years, saw lots of it as a teenager, I would not
do it then, and will not do it now.

I had friends and relatives who drove while drunk, some of
them have been dead for many years as a result.

Have no idea why you would think that I think drinking and
driving is new to society.

I have zero tolerance, and our society should be the same.
Good for MADD, I back them 100%

 

[JLM]

blowing over the limit isn't innocent.
the courts are so overstuffed with these drunk drivers now, they
should make sure on the spot device is accurate.
Take three breathalizer tests 'on the spot, that would show accuracy.
Get it done at the scene.

You know the simplest way to solve these problems, IS don't drink and drive at all.
It is very easy.

You got that right. I've been thinking the cops should pack two breathalyzers calibrated by different people and then if a suspect challenged the reading on one he could blow into the other. Not sure how practical this would be but it could eliminate that hassle.

 

[Kreskin]

The same old drunks will be driving out there, with or without licenses. 33% of those killing people while dui are teenagers. They won't stop. To address the real issue they should raise the driving age to 20 and fire the repeat offenders in prison.

Instead, the government wants cash and will send the cops out to collect new taxes. A deceitful piece of work by the Province of BC.

 

[JLM]

The same old drunks will be driving out there, with or without licenses. 33% of those killing people while dui are teenagers. They won't stop. To address the real issue they should raise the driving age to 20 and fire the repeat offenders in prison.

Instead, the government wants cash and will send the cops out to collect new taxes. A deceitful piece of work by the Province of BC.

That would work really well....................if people quit drinking at age 20.

 

[Kreskin]

With all the harping about using public transit and going green, why the hell are the giving immature lousy drivers the chance to kill people, when they could be on a bus or train? Hell, the government will spend millions trying to sell transit versus cars. Just stop them from driving in the first place. Solves all of those problems.

 

[lone wolf]

With all the harping about using public transit and going green, why the hell are the giving immature lousy drivers the chance to kill people, when they could be on a bus or train? Hell, the government will spend millions trying to sell transit versus cars. Just stop them from driving in the first place. Solves all of those problems.

Short of poking their eyes out, how do you stop a determined drunk from getting behind the wheel?

 

[Kreskin]

Short of poking their eyes out, how do you stop a determined drunk from getting behind the wheel?

Exactly, so how does fining people below the legal limit going to save lives?

 

[lone wolf]

Exactly, so how does fining people below the legal limit going to save lives?

It's not. It's a cash grab - legalized robbery - unless the law is changed to zero permissible.

 

[JLM]

Exactly, so how does fining people below the legal limit going to save lives?

I don't think it will do anything to change the hardcore drinker/driver, but it just might persuade the guy who has two or three drinks with his dinner in a restaurant to settle for coffee instead.

 

[lone wolf]

What kind of message do lawmakers send when they up fines for alcohol offences yet extend the Liquor Store hours and issue ever increasing numbers of liquor licences?

 

[JLM]

What kind of message do lawmakers send when they up fines for alcohol offences yet extend the Liquor Store hours and issue ever increasing numbers of liquor licences?

Exactly and allowing bars to stay open until 3 AM when in most places getting public transportation is next to impossible.

 

[Kreskin]

It's not. It's a cash grab - legalized robbery - unless the law is changed to zero permissible.

Legalized highway robbery. I noticed one of the penalties was having to install some ignition device once given the ability to drive again. I'm sure someone in high places has a nice investment in the product and needs a market.

 

[talloola]

Hard core drinkers will do anything they want for a while,
but what goes round comes round, and he/she will end up
in jail more than out, especially under new law.

Don't people realize how dangerous to our society, drinking
and driving is, and if this new law decreases the problem,
that is good, money grab or no.

 

[JLM]

Hard core drinkers will do anything they want for a while,
but what goes round comes round, and he/she will end up
in jail more than out, especially under new law.

Don't people realize how dangerous to our society, drinking
and driving is, and if this new law decreases the problem,
that is good, money grab or no.

Exactly and better they buy the cops' uniforms than the law abiding taxpayer.

 

[Kreskin]

It won't decrease the problem (or solve the one they are pretending to). It will cause more problems. But as long as it makes the finance department and MADD happy, thats all that matters.

These tax-collecting agendas are crazy.

 

[talloola]

What kind of message do lawmakers send when they up fines for alcohol offences yet extend the Liquor Store hours and issue ever increasing numbers of liquor licences?

We don't have to learn how to behave from lawmakers, they
don't care much about us, WE have to care about us.

For the lawmakers it's all about profit, for us it's all
about our life and limb, children, pedestrians, etc.,
and zero tolerance for drinking drivers, just talk to all
of the families without family members who have been killed,
either by their own hand, by drinking and driving, or by
a drunk driver, or have killed their own when they were
drinking and driving.

How the hell would raising the age of driving or drinking
change much of anything, most of the offenders are over
20, much over.

It's a human situation, whatever works is fine with me.

 

[JLM]

We don't have to learn how to behave from lawmakers, they
don't care much about us, WE have to care about us.

For the lawmakers it's all about profit, for us it's all
about our life and limb, children, pedestrians, etc.,
and zero tolerance for drinking drivers, just talk to all
of the families without family members who have been killed,
either by their own hand, by drinking and driving, or by
a drunk driver, or have killed their own when they were
drinking and driving.

How the hell would raising the age of driving or drinking
change much of anything, most of the offenders are over
20, much over.

It's a human situation, whatever works is fine with me.

Not to mention the fact that every month or so a cop in B.C. is charged with impaired driving. Years ago I heard that for every impaired motorist stopped and charged there's 2000 more out there. Scary sh*t.

 

[talloola]

Not to mention the fact that every month or so a cop in B.C. is charged with impaired driving. Years ago I heard that for every impaired motorist stopped and charged there's 2000 more out there. Scary sh*t.

yeah, very scary

 

[Kreskin]

We don't have to learn how to behave from lawmakers, they
don't care much about us, WE have to care about us.

For the lawmakers it's all about profit, for us it's all
about our life and limb, children, pedestrians, etc.,
and zero tolerance for drinking drivers, just talk to all
of the families without family members who have been killed,
either by their own hand, by drinking and driving, or by
a drunk driver, or have killed their own when they were
drinking and driving.

How the hell would raising the age of driving or drinking
change much of anything, most of the offenders are over
20, much over.

It's a human situation, whatever works is fine with me.

According to a guy on radio who's promoting these changes, he said about 30-something percent of drunk driving deaths are caused by teenagers. So taking them off the road is absolutely the best way to reduce deaths. Plus, it promotes mass transit which the government goes on and on about. However, that doesn't make them money so it's off the table.

The gov isn't serious about reducing deaths. This won't. They want money and will use slight-of-hand tricks to get it. There will be plenty more of these disguised taxcollecting tricks to come in the future.

 

[JLM]

According to a guy on radio who's promoting these changes, he said about 30-something percent of drunk driving deaths are caused by teenagers. So taking them off the road is absolutely the best way to reduce deaths. Plus, it promotes mass transit which the government goes on and on about. However, that doesn't make them money so it's off the table.

The gov isn't serious about reducing deaths. This won't. They want money and will use slight-of-hand tricks to get it. There will be plenty more of these disguised taxcollecting tricks to come in the future.

There is a much better way than that to prevent death- quit building cars. Why should a law abiding 18 year old be deprived of the privilege of driving. Public transit works in very few cases, just in big cities for some people. How does it work for say an electrician or a roofer who has to pack his tools right to the work site? I don't think most busses will allow you on with a ladder strapped to your back. :smile: