The Ku Klux Klan and Christianity

Cliffy

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Jack, your detailed knowledge of the workings of American politics borders on the obsessive. I don't think knowing every detail of the insanity of that country's politics is a prerequisite to forming an opinion. There is a lot of stuff that you have opinions on that you have no clue about.
 

abitz

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Thus Leviticus prescribes death penalty to homosexuals. Exodus exhorts Christians to kill witches (thou shalt not suffer a witch to live). Genesis tells a man that he is superior, he is the boss, that a woman is his inferior (Adam shall rule over Eve). Bible also tells KKK that blacks are inferior to whites (Curse of Ham).

Correct me if I'm wrong, but everything bad that seems to come from the Bible seems to come from the Old Testament. Toss 'er?
 

CDNBear

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but everything bad that seems to come from the Bible seems to come from the Old Testament. Toss 'er?
You're barking up the wrong tree there abitz. SJP believes the Bible should be burned, period.
 

karrie

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but everything bad that seems to come from the Bible seems to come from the Old Testament. Toss 'er?

Christians are supposed to give the New Testament precedent as Christ formed a new covenant with his followers. Tossing the Old Testament shouldn't be necessary... the words of Christ himself negate the vast majority of it.
 
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AnnaG

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I'm not too sure, but, I'm willing to bet it would be easier to locate, and more palatable, than it would with any KKK member.
8O That'd be any male other than Soc the Geek and Gliberalman according to SPA. lmao We're all rabid, right-wing, and religious. :D
 

abitz

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If the Old Testament is negated with Christ, then why even have it in the canon?
 

abitz

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Why have any history in anything?

That is not what I'm getting at. Having the Old Testament as a part of the bible means that it is the Word of God. Eliminating it from the bible simply means we don't recognize it as the Word of God.

Don't take me for some bible hater, I just don't like the Old Testament.
 

karrie

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That is not what I'm getting at. Having the Old Testament as a part of the bible means that it is the Word of God. Eliminating it from the bible simply means we don't recognize it as the Word of God.

Don't take me for some bible hater, I just don't like the Old Testament.

So don't read it. I don't want to sound trite about it, but, you can only decide for yourself how to live your spirituality. Twisted people like the KKK will find ways to warp any religion to suit their agenda, no matter how many books you delete, or even if some get their wish and obliterate them all.
 

abitz

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So don't read it. I don't want to sound trite about it, but, you can only decide for yourself how to live your spirituality. Twisted people like the KKK will find ways to warp any religion to suit their agenda, no matter how many books you delete, or even if some get their wish and obliterate them all.

Very good point. "Religions" will still find there way around whatever books are deleted, good point. My issue isn't reading it, I very often like reading the stories, but I don't agree with what is asked of us.

I think what I'm really trying to is to question all the questionable things within Christianity. It may be my choice to live out my own spirituality, but my religious order may ask me to believe in ALL the Word of God, or something like that. Maybe what I'm really looking for is the Old Testament to be recognized as different or something from the New Testament. Sorry, I'm just not entirely sure what I'm looking for. I'm just not happy how Christians are asked to incorporate parts of the bible into our life, but at the same time, the bible can ask very absurd things of us.
 

gerryh

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Christians are supposed to give the New Testament precedent as Christ formed a new covenant with his followers. Tossing the Old Testament shouldn't be necessary... the words of Christ himself negate the vast majority of it.

Thumbs up, and green given.
 

SirJosephPorter

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I gather from your contempt that Byrd must be a Democrat.

Indeed Byrd is a Democrat, the oldest and well respected member of the senate, respected by both Republicans and Democrats. He has won reelection to Senate countless times. He is President Protem of the Senate.

He put the KKK episode to rest a long time ago, it is only extremists like YJ who bring it up, even most Republicans don't bring it up. When he is up for election, he gets most of the black votes, as does any Democratic candidate against any Republican.

If blacks have forgiven him, the episode is over as far as I am concerned, regardless of what the right wing extremists may think.
 

CDNBear

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If blacks have forgiven him, the episode is over as far as I am concerned, regardless of what the right wing extremists may think.
Pheeewww, it's a good thing he's a Democrat then, because if he was an evil Republican, Martin Luther King himself could rise from the dead a pardon, and you'ld still call him a racist.

There's more of that constancy we love about you SJP, as consistent as loose mud.
 

SirJosephPorter

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but everything bad that seems to come from the Bible seems to come from the Old Testament. Toss 'er?

Most of them come from OT, though NT has its share of nasty sayings. However, Christianity encompasses both OT and NT. They together form the religion of Christianity.
 

EagleSmack

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Pheeewww, it's a good thing he's a Democrat then, because if he was an evil Republican, Martin Luther King himself could rise from the dead a pardon, and you'ld still call him a racist.

There's more of that constancy we love about you SJP, as consistent as loose mud.

Exactly CDN. As long as they pander and toss scraps ALL is forgiven. Even being a member of the biggest racist organizations is forgiven.
 

SirJosephPorter

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If the Old Testament is negated with Christ, then why even have it in the canon?

I don't think Christ negated OT. OT is fully as much part of Christianity as NT. Thus it would be ludicrous to claim that the story of Adam and Eve, Book of Genesis (which establishes superiority of man over woman) is not part of Christianity. If not Christianity, what is it, a pagan fable?
 

AnnaG

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Don’t’ be fooled by him, Cliffy, he has very little knowledge of US politics. And what little knowledge he has, it is tainted by far right philosophy. Thus he thinks that Rush ‘drug addict’ Limbaugh is a saint, while the well respected senator Byrd is the Spawn of the Devil (because very long ago in his youth he belonged to KKK).
... and a couple of our American posters have tried educating you on American politics, too, so you are no-one to be saying someone else doesn't know politics there.
There's little difference between those that think Democrats are devil-spawn and you who thinks that Reps are devil-spawn. You're both frothing-mouthed extremists. lol

Anyway, the KKK have twisted views of Christianity (among other things). I thought everyone knew that.