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Stretch

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purely a coincedence.......nothing to worry about mate...........

But in July 2000, more than a year before the United States knocked it out of power, the Taliban banned the crop and introduced the death penalty for opium crimes, leading to a sharp decline in production.
Now, the regions outside Kabul are under the control of warlords, many of whom benefit from the trade. Last year's production was nine times higher than during the final year of Taliban rule.

Opium production spreading in post-Taliban Afghanistan
 

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purely a coincedence.......nothing to worry about mate...........

But in July 2000, more than a year before the United States knocked it out of power, the Taliban banned the crop and introduced the death penalty for opium crimes, leading to a sharp decline in production.
Now, the regions outside Kabul are under the control of warlords, many of whom benefit from the trade. Last year's production was nine times higher than during the final year of Taliban rule.

Opium production spreading in post-Taliban Afghanistan
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Again, some balance...

Knowing full well that there was a market for it, in 2000 the Taliban strangled out those that would bend to their will. And confiscated their acreage. Thus creating a false shortage, and driving up prices, so they could collect more taxes.

http://www.usip.org/files/resources/taliban_opium_1.pdf
 

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like I said , in every lie there's a little truth
That's all well and good, but what is fact, looks nothing like what you're trying to sell.

The Taliban never actually banned Poppy growth, they restricted it, allowing warlords sympathetic to their cause, to grow and sell it at a far greater price, so the Taliban itself could reap greater profits from a much higher market price.

You would have us believe that the Taliban tried to eradicate the heroin trade, and NATO interference has somehow reversed that.

This is patently false.
 

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That's all well and good, but what is fact, looks nothing like what you're trying to sell.

The Taliban never actually banned Poppy growth, they restricted it, allowing warlords sympathetic to their cause, to grow and sell it at a far greater price, so the Taliban itself could reap greater profits from a much higher market price.

You would have us believe that the Taliban tried to eradicate the heroin trade, and NATO interference has somehow reversed that.

This is patently false.
us interference....there's the difference
anything with us involvment has a lie attached to it.........
 

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‘They’re Cops; They’re Going to Beat You’


Friday, 26 March 2010 08:12



'When the victim of a criminal assault dials 911 for help, what happens if police are the assailants?
Chicago residents Matthew Clark (a Ph.D. lecturer at the University of Chicago) and Gregory Malandrucco (who is finishing his Ph.D.) can answer that question: The cops who respond to the call will eagerly join the fray on the side of the attackers.'
Read more: ‘They’re Cops; They’re Going to Beat You’
 

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The logo on the cop's shirt sleeve says "NEW WORLD POLICE".

Sounds suspiciously like a force sanctioned by the United Nations.

BTW, this article is on a website by a total loon (with apologies to the noble birds of the Canadian Nort) who claims that humans are reptiles.
 

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The logo on the cop's shirt sleeve says "NEW WORLD POLICE".

Sounds suspiciously like a force sanctioned by the United Nations.

BTW, this article is on a website by a total loon (with apologies to the noble birds of the Canadian Nort) who claims that humans are reptiles.
he doesnt claim that humans are reptiles at all.........
 

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The logo on the cop's shirt sleeve says "NEW WORLD POLICE".

Sounds suspiciously like a force sanctioned by the United Nations.

BTW, this article is on a website by a total loon (with apologies to the noble birds of the Canadian Nort) who claims that humans are reptiles.

It's photoshoped and this a paranoid conspirousy thread. There are no "NEW WORLD POLICE". Are you new on earth.
 

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when the taliban was in power, they banned the growing of poppies...the farmers still survived...but the loss of supply of heroin cost those in the us heaps, much easier to go in and "get rid of" the taliban thus reinstating the supply.........

I seriously doubt there is any significant connection between the reasons for US occupation of Afghanistan and the US drug trade. That is even more preposterous than the idea that the US invaded to stop the ominous threat of international terrorism. (The mission is now officially for humanitarian reasons, which is only slightly less preposterous.)

Peasants turned to opium production not out of choice but out of desperation. Much of the already fragile farming economy has been devastated by the war. Both warlords and the Taliban are profiting from this (i.e. both US allies and enemies).

The two main reasons why they US has cut back on their attack on opium production:

1. Afghan allies have a very large stake in the trade.

2. Afghan peasants now have no other alternative to starvation; a direct result of the US invasion.

The US's previous crackdown was clearly to remove a Taliban source of income. But the main beneficiaries of the drug trade are US allies. The contradiction is clear. Combine that with an increasingly grave humanitarian crisis caused by this war and the reasoning behind US behaviour in this matter should be pretty clear.

Unless the US wants to create a massive problem for itself in Afghanistan, the present course of action is the only course of action (as far as US interests are concerned).

One solution posed has been for the UN to buy up production from poppy farmers (thus in effect keeping them alive using their own economy, rather than food aid that has negative economic effects and is very costly to the supplier); this would cut off income to the Taliban, among others.

The logo on the cop's shirt sleeve says "NEW WORLD POLICE".

Sounds suspiciously like a force sanctioned by the United Nations.

No, it's just a not-so-clever play on the term, "new world order" (the Bush era slogan that never seems to go away). Nothing to do with the UN...unless you're into the whole Illuminati-run UN conspiracy to create a NWO in conjunction with something having to do with aliens.

As for the article. Meh, overt barbarism does occasionally happen in the US as in other supposedly civilized countries (this one included--see your friendly neighbourhood RCMP), but afaik it's not the norm except in really backward areas of the US, so there's really not much conspiracy here...unless the cops don't get charged, which I doubt would happen given the overwhelming evidence against them (unless Chicago's law enforcement system has done a free-fall back to the days of Capone).
 

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Ambulance Service Gets £38 for Every Patient They Don't Take to Hospital


Monday, 29 March 2010 09:07



'Patients' groups expressed horror at the "sick experiment" in which NHS managers have agreed to pay £38 for every casualty that ambulance staff "keep out of Accident and Emergency" (A&E) departments after a 999 call has been made.
The tactic is part of an attempt to manage increasing demand for emergency care amid failings in the GP out-of-hours system.
Another plan uncovered would see thousands of 999 calls currently classed as urgent downgraded so that callers receive telephone advice instead of an ambulance response.'
Read more: Ambulance Service Gets £38 for Every Patient They Don't Take to Hospital
 

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U.S. and Colombia Cover Up Atrocities Through Mass Graves


Saturday, 03 April 2010 06:49


'This scandal revolves around the Colombian military, most recently under the direction of Juan Manuel Santos, knowingly murdering civilians in cold blood and then dressing them up to look like armed guerillas in order to justify more aid from the United States. According to the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, Navi Pilay, this practice has been so "systematic and widespread" as to amount to a "crime against humanity." And sadly, when Ms. Pilay made this statement, she literally did not know the half of it.'
Read more: U.S. and Colombia Cover Up Atrocities Through Mass Graves