Liberal phobia and the cause….

[SirJosephPorter]

That's a pretty broad assessment of conservatives in Canada. Many conservatives I have spoken to are of the fiscal variety and not so much social.

Quite so. However, fiscal conservatives (and by that I assume you mean those who support prudent economic management, not the borrow and spend apostles) would vote for either political party, depending upon which party they think can do a better job of managing the economy.

In fact, I consider myself to be fiscal conservative (I really don't like that term), I support prudent economic management, I think the next priority of any government must be to balance the budget.

Why, if in the next election campaign if Liberals don't give a firm commitment to balance the budget and Harper has already balanced the budget (yeah, and pigs can fly) I may consider voting for Harper.

But what we encounter here are not fiscal cosnervatives, but committed Harper acolytes.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

Cuts in government services? Isn't that a Liberal concept? One that you have supported here as a way of dealing with a deficit? In other words, the Liberal solution is to hurt the poor single mother.

When it come to balancing the budget, nothing is sacrosanct. There must be tax increases and service cuts. That is the only way to balance the budget, there is no magic bullet.

But you make a good point. The borrow and spend orgy by Harper (which his acolytes here like so much) is going to end up hurting the poor.

 

[countryboy]

You mean send it to every Liberal MP, don't you? Conservative MPs are of course paragons of virtue, Godly men (after all, Conservative Party is the party of God).

Well, I would not have gone quite that far but if that's what you think...

 

[SirJosephPorter]

Good day S JP, he not only confirms hero worship, he also confirms that Emerson being a corrupt Liberal, Harper over looks a bank robed Liberal on ethics.
What is that say for Harper? a total opportunist, had Emerson not crossed the floor Harper would have been kept out of Vancouver center, which would have altered the numbers, and when in fact the people in Vancouver center did not vote Conservative. Talking about people that worship crap for reality.......

Also I remember, Harper appointed his friend from Montréal (I don’t offhand remember his name) to Senate and gave him a cushy job in the cabinet. Being in the Senate and not a member of the House of Commons, of course he is answerable to no one, except the Great Messiah himself.

That was an example of patronage and corruption to rival any by Mulroney or by Liberals. And this on the very first day in office. He probably made his acolytes very proud that day (it told them that he can be as corrupt as any other politicians, and so has a good chance of remaining in the office).

 

[petros]

Here add this to it. It might take me a bit, but I have an updated version on disk around here somewhere.

Have you gone down to the RCMP and filed charges for all 199 of those incidents? Until someone files a complaint govt will continue to do illegal things. It doesn't cost a cent to file a complaint which they are obligated to investigate but it costs a fortune to continually allowing criminals to run the show. No one's fault but our own.

 

[countryboy]

Surely not. Knowing your hatred of Liberals, I would have thought you would favor a one party state, like they have in Alberta, with your party in power perpetually. At least that is the dream of many conservatives.

Listen Joe, when are going to cease your habit of fabricating things, followed up with a foolish rant about them? I don't hate anyone. Pointing out character and performance deficiencies in an effort to rationalize the reasons for Liberal phobia is not hate.

But being as how you're so fond of using that word, I will pose this question to you: Is blind hatred of others a Liberal trait (as you seem to represent), and thus could it be just another possible reason for the existence of Liberal phobia?

It's a very disturbing thought.

 

[petros]

Liberalphobic, sounds like someone who is afraid of books.

 

[TenPenny]

Sorry

Indeed.

 

[countryboy]

Now here you may have a point. It may be pointless to try convince a conservative that deficit is bad for the economy. A conservative thinks that money to finance the deficit just comes, falls out of the sky, so to speak. A conservative thinks that it is perfectly OK to rack up huge debt for our children and our grandchildren. But I keep trying.

...And how do you think you're doing so far?

 

[Socrates the Greek]

Also I remember, Harper appointed his friend from Montréal (I don’t offhand remember his name) to Senate and gave him a cushy job in the cabinet. Being in the Senate and not a member of the House of Commons, of course he is answerable to no one, except the Great Messiah himself.

That was an example of patronage and corruption to rival any by Mulroney or by Liberals. And this on the very first day in office. He probably made his acolytes very proud that day (it told them that he can be as corrupt as any other politicians, and so has a good chance of remaining in the office).

Harper’s final nail on the Conservative coffin will be the massive debt , resulting in 7 - 8 years of deficits.

There is no balancing act left for the Conservatives. THEY SQUANDERED 4 years of productivity over trivial partisan games, bigotry, hypocrisy, and unthinkable strategy of divide against all oppositions in the house, by shutting the doors to DEMOCRACY and the peoples business.

 

[Socrates the Greek]

Liberalphobic, sounds like someone who is afraid of books.

......And Conservative Phobia is when people run like pigs on the way to the salute house of economics.

 

[Socrates the Greek]

Harper’s final nail on the Conservative coffin will be the massive debt , resulting in 7 - 8 years of deficits.

There is no balancing act left for the Conservatives. THEY SQUANDERED 4 years of productivity over trivial partisan games, bigotry, hypocrisy, and unthinkable strategy of divide against all oppositions in the house, by shutting the doors to DEMOCRACY and the peoples business.

That is a warranted phobia against the snow whites, Ali-Baba and the 90 thieves.

 

[petros]

What do we still own that we can utilize to pay off the debt and free ourselves from bondage?

 

[Socrates the Greek]

What do we still own that we can utilize to pay off the debt and free ourselves from bondage?

To free our self’s from the financial bondage, would start from allowing people who can do the math, not people who pretend they do, because they are after their own personal gain rather then the country's financial well being.

 

[countryboy]

So you had the same thought as I did. The list is very likely copy and paste from somewhere. If not, very likely he stayed up all night thinking of all the hateful things he could say about Liberals (but they really apply more to conservatives than to liberals).

I believe I clarified the source of my post which you're referencing above...if you go to my post #906, last paragraph, you'll see the confirmation there. I wrote it in a few minutes whilst having a cup of tea.

I would like to bring to your attention the fact that you're continuing inference that it is copied/pasted from elsewhere comes very close to accusing me of being a liar. I don't really appreciate name-calling in general, but I certainly welcome feedback, as always.

By the way, thank you for expressing such a lively degree of interest in a post that is quite modest in every way. Your attention is noted, even if your responses seem to contain suggestions of disagreement. Liberal phobia is a difficult, complex, and disturbing subject and I'm only trying to arrive at an understanding of why it exists. Exploring these root causes - as painful as it may be - is critical to the success of that endeavour.

After all, I believe the thread title is "Liberal phobia and the cause..."

 

[Socrates the Greek]

Would you mind not speaking in rhetoric? You sound like one of those rabid Local 6500 goons - hardly a good ambassador for Liberal anything.

Easy with he friendly fire LW. as I said before when one is protecting his or hers standard of living rhetoric takes the back seat. There is no rhetoric here......I enjoy what I have build in the past 45 years and I am not about to let incompetent dictators steal my right to be conferrable.

In the next 7- 8 years if things don’t change Canada is doomed economically. That is fact not rhetoric.:smile:

 

[Risus]

Easy with he friendly fire LW. as I said before when one is protecting his or hers standard of living rhetoric takes the back seat. There is no rhetoric here......I enjoy what I have build in the past 45 years and I am not about to let incompetent dictators steal my right to be conferrable.

In the next 7- 8 years if things don’t change Canada is doomed economically. That is fact not rhetoric.:smile:

What are you smoking? Canada has one of the best economies right now.
And the Conservative's lead is growing on the gliberals...

Might or might not be rhetoric, but I think you just like to hear yourself spout off.

 

[petros]

To free our self’s from the financial bondage, would start from allowing people who can do the math, not people who pretend they do, because they are after their own personal gain rather then the country's financial well being.

The majority of people I've met on this planet don't understand math or a scared ****less of it. If they did find out the truth I'm not sure they could handle it. I'd enjoying wathcing them go through the Kubler-Ross thing.

 

[petros]

What are you smoking? Canada has one of the best economies right now.
And the Conservative's lead is growing on the gliberals...

Might or might not be rhetoric, but I think you just like to hear yourself spout off.

Really? Do we own more and have more social services now than we ever have before?

 

[ironsides]

Sorry ironsides, but the policies I outlined in that post, banning gay marriage, privatizing health care system, bringing back death penalty, abolishing minimum wage, are considered distinctly right wing in Canada, there is nothing centre right about them. Any party leader who advocates one or more of these policies will be committing political suicide here in Canada.

Why, Harper wouldn't touch any of them with a ten metre pole.

I agree that today no candidate would make any of those an issue with the exception of the death penalty. I was however suggesting if any would pass a majority vote today of Canadian citizens, with an overwhelming majority, like you seem to think they would.