Liberal phobia and the cause….

[AnnaG]

That can only happen when we wrestle control of our country back from the hands of international corporations and bankers. Until that day we are sitting ducks. I don't see any politician doing anything except accept their bribes and fattened off shore bank accounts.

I can't see it happening until we manage to hold our "public servants" accountable and hold them to the task they are supposed to do, regardless of bankers and int'l corps. And I can't see that happening until the people of Canada decide they've had enough and amalgamate into one group that says they've had enough. And I can't see that happening anywhere except possibly the extremely distant future. In the meantime we will continue investing our trust in people who have no idea how to handle that trust.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

Why not? When you say "all this" you make it sound like we are digging up Canada- the idea is just to find a good mine that will produce enough to pay down debt. I started the "half dozen" concept and I left it open as to how many "helpers" the prospectors could hire. :smile:

When you say helpers, you leave room open for more than half a dozen. My problem was with the comment that the entire Canadian Shield would be prospected by half a dozen prospectors.

 

[AnnaG]

I see. And all this is done by half a dozen prospectors?

Prospectors these days aren't the grizzled old men with scraggly beards and a pick and pan strapped to their donkey that you seem to visualize as a prospector. You're 150 years out-of-date

 

[SirJosephPorter]

You don't get it do you?

I know party propaganda when I see one. This was just a red meat issue thrown to committed Harper acolytes, to get them mad enough at those spawns of the Devil (Liberals) so they may loosen the purse strings and send a big donation to Conservative Party. I don't see any other reason for bringing up the subject.

 

[TenPenny]

Prospectors these days aren't the grizzled old men with scraggly beards and a pick and pan strapped to their donkey that you seem to visualize as a prospector. You're 150 years out-of-date

Quite so; the term 'prospector' can quite honestly be used to describe a firm engaged in exploration, which could therefore mean a team of many, many people.

 

[AnnaG]

As to not being in favour of big government, do you think that conservatives don’t favour the big government? Well, then you are wrong. Conservatives favour fully as much government as liberals do, perhaps even more. It is just that they will intrude on peoples’ lives in a different way than liberals would.

:roll:Is that why Harpy started trimming gov't fat almost as soon as he sat in the comfy chair in the PMO?

To put it succinctly, liberals want to regulate the boardroom, but not the bedroom. Conservatives want to regulate the bedroom, but not the boardroom.

If you mean regulate the boardroom in the manner than Martin regulated business, Canadians get shafted as per SOP.

Thus conservatives oppose any regulations on big business,

Just like Martin. Imagine that.

they would like to abolish minimum wage (or now that it is here, they would like to freeze it at the current level forever), they are against welfare for the poor (not government’s business), some of them would like to scrap the public education (they would leave it to the churches) etc. Some of them want to privatize health care.

And the evidence for this is where? Martin's the one who pulled the rug out from under healthcare and enabled the massive student debt load. Yeah, the cons are evil. Remeber that prospector's donkey I mentioned?

In this respect, they want government to get out of peoples’ lives. On the other hand, they want to ban or restrict abortion, ban or restrict homosexuality (or gay marriage), want to make divorce tougher, want or restrict the free availability of contraceptives, bring back death penalty etc.

Proof? I can't see you backing this bunch of bilgewater up with any.

 

[AnnaG]

Conservatives in the bedroom? Jeez, I don't know what kind of neighborhood you live in, but there are only 2 of them in my bedroom.

I'm not at all concerned about how some people might feel about homosexual stuff. As far as I know, I'm a heterosexual which leaves me with no opinion on homosexuals. I believe you pointed out somewhere that nobody should be concerned about what other people do, so I'm not. Why does it bother you so much?

In trying to read and make sense of your post, I knew you were making this all up when I got to the part about conservatives wanting to abolish minimum wage.

Did you find that on Wikipedia?

Reader's Digest, remember?

 

[AnnaG]

Countryboy: You actually read all that rambling blather??:lol:

I did, too. He makes me laugh. lol

 

[AnnaG]

Over the years I've met a few people who seemed to be enthralled with the sound of their own voice.....we usually call them blowhards ......but I have seen far fewer who do it in writing.
I wonder what would be a proper name for such an animal:lol::lol::roll:

Expert at cacoethes loquendi? Logorrheaologist extraordinaire?

 

[AnnaG]

Squid.... The deeper in he gets, the more ink he squirts....

lmao

 

[AnnaG]

Some people have 20/20 tunnel vision:lol::roll:

You think the field of view is that big? That's pretty magnanimous of you.

 

[Socrates the Greek]

Over the years I've met a few people who seemed to be enthralled with the sound of their own voice.....we usually call them blowhards ......but I have seen far fewer who do it in writing.
I wonder what would be a proper name for such an animal:lol::lol::roll:

Hey insinuating that people who don’t agree with you are some type of an animal, it shows you have a poor understanding of humanity as well a mean streak in your personality. .
. :roll::roll::roll:

 

[AnnaG]

Sure you could find that on Wikipedia. Conservative opposition to the minimum wage is well known. They opposed it when it was enacted and now they oppose each and every attempt to increase it.

Then post the link that backs up your claim.

When Republicans were in power in USA for 12 years, they did not increase minimum wage even once (and of course, Americans experienced unparalleled prosperity for not increasing the minimum wage for 12 years, at least according to conservatives). When Democrats increased it, most Republicans voted against it.

Comparing the USA to Canada again. You have an unnatural fixation.

Mike Harris did not increase minimum wage here in Ontario for eight years that he was in power (and of course for not raising the minimum wage, Ontario experienced unparallel prosperity under Harris, according to Conservatives anyway).

McGuinty increased minimum wage when he came to power. Even in this forum, many conservatives (including yourself) are opposed to any increase in minimum wage, you would freeze it at the current level forever.

Aren't you confusing federal politics with provincial politics?

So yes, you could easily find it on Wikipedia. Or simply Google for ‘conservative’ and ‘minimum wage’ and you will find plenty of material describing the hostility by conservatives to the minimum wage for the poor, hostility towards the poor.

Like Martin's concern for the poor?roflmao

Funny, I did as you suggested and found it full of stuff about the UK Tories. But I did only look on the first 20 pages for something to do with Canada. Maybe the 21st page? Can you show us where you found all the info you are talking about?

 

[AnnaG]

You may not be concerned about it, but why was there so much opposition to gay marriage by conservatives? Why is there so much opposition in USA by conservatives when it comes to granting gays any rights?

When Supreme Court struck down Texas Sodomy law, making homosexuality a criminal offence punishable by 10 years of imprisonment, why were some conservatives hopping mad about it, and vowed to reverse the Supreme Court decision and recriminalize homosexuality at the earliest possible opportunity?

You may deny it, but conservatives very much want to leave the boardroom alone, while regulating the bedroom, telling people how they may and may not behave in their private lives.

Still singing Back in the USA by The Beatles, huh? Maybe that fixation isn't just unnatural; maybe it's psychotic.

 

[AnnaG]

When you say helpers, you leave room open for more than half a dozen. My problem was with the comment that the entire Canadian Shield would be prospected by half a dozen prospectors.

... without their donkeys, pans, and picks? You're weird.

 

[AnnaG]

I know party propaganda when I see one.

Me, too, and you're full of it.

 

[AnnaG]

Hey insinuating that people who don’t agree with you are some type of an animal, it shows you have a poor understanding of humanity as well a mean streak in your personality. .
. :roll::roll::roll:

Human beings are in the classification Kingdom: animalia, Phylum: Chordata, etc. We are animals.

 

[JLM]

When you say helpers, you leave room open for more than half a dozen. My problem was with the comment that the entire Canadian Shield would be prospected by half a dozen prospectors.

I never suggested the "entire" Canadian Shield should be prospected.

 

[JLM]

Sure you could find that on Wikipedia. Conservative opposition to the minimum wage is well known. They opposed it when it was enacted and now they oppose each and every attempt to increase it.

When Republicans were in power in USA for 12 years, they did not increase minimum wage even once (and of course, Americans experienced unparalleled prosperity for not increasing the minimum wage for 12 years, at least according to conservatives). When Democrats increased it, most Republicans voted against it. Mike Harris did not increase minimum wage here in Ontario for eight years that he was in power (and of course for not raising the minimum wage, Ontario experienced unparallel prosperity under Harris, according to Conservatives anyway).

McGuinty increased minimum wage when he came to power. Even in this forum, many conservatives (including yourself) are opposed to any increase in minimum wage, you would freeze it at the current level forever.

So yes, you could easily find it on Wikipedia. Or simply Google for ‘conservative’ and ‘minimum wage’ and you will find plenty of material describing the hostility by conservatives to the minimum wage for the poor, hostility towards the poor.

You are just not paying attention here at all. I've already told you raising the minimum wage does not (they've been doing that for 60 years and it hasn't worked yet for obvious reasons, so why would you figure it would work now). Actually lowering the minimum wage would be far more productive- it would pull prices down. Aren't you beginning to get the feeling here you do when you find yourself going in the wrong direction on a one way street?

 

[SirJosephPorter]

Hey insinuating that people who don’t agree with you are some type of an animal, it shows you have a poor understanding of humanity as well a mean streak in your personality. .
. :roll::roll::roll:

Quite so, Socrates. Some posters here deserve to be ignored. He is one of them. His sole contribution to discussion is heckling from the side line, nothing more.