Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’
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The same kind of dinks who spent a couple decades trying to convince us that 'smoking really isn't all that bad for you' are working hard to do the same with Climate Change.
First... 'It's not really happening so we don't need to do anything about'
then
'Well the climate may be changing to a warmer average global temperature but it's not us humans and the several billion tons of greenhouse gas we pump into the atmosphere each year that are causing the forcing'
and
'Let's debate this endlessly until all the oil and gas deposits are used up and all those sweet profits are safely hoarded away for the fortunate few.'
One simple fact that no one can get around.
- CO2 transmits visable light and absorbs infrared... which means a major proportion of the sunlight that reaches the earth will pass through the atmosphere and strike the surface. Some will be reflected back into space by surfaces like ice(which is rapidly dissappearing) and more will be absorbed and then reradiated as infrared, some of which will be captured by the increasing levels of CO2 put there by 6 1/2 billion humans going about the business of using prodigous amounts of energy every day.
The overall capacity of the atmosphere to hold heat is going up due to simple physics. And the bull**** is flowing out of companies like Exxon/Mobile due to simple greed... which is going to win out in the end do you think?
First... 'It's not really happening so we don't need to do anything about'
then
'Well the climate may be changing to a warmer average global temperature but it's not us humans and the several billion tons of greenhouse gas we pump into the atmosphere each year that are causing the forcing'
and
'Let's debate this endlessly until all the oil and gas deposits are used up and all those sweet profits are safely hoarded away for the fortunate few.'
One simple fact that no one can get around.
- CO2 transmits visable light and absorbs infrared... which means a major proportion of the sunlight that reaches the earth will pass through the atmosphere and strike the surface. Some will be reflected back into space by surfaces like ice(which is rapidly dissappearing) and more will be absorbed and then reradiated as infrared, some of which will be captured by the increasing levels of CO2 put there by 6 1/2 billion humans going about the business of using prodigous amounts of energy every day.
The overall capacity of the atmosphere to hold heat is going up due to simple physics. And the bull**** is flowing out of companies like Exxon/Mobile due to simple greed... which is going to win out in the end do you think?
[FONT=Times New Roman,serif] [/FONT]The North auroral oval. Credit: NASA, NSSDC, Holzworth and Meng.
Ring of Ice, Ring of Fire
Feb 25, 2010
Everyone knows the Ice Age was a time when the Earth cooled, glaciers moved down from the North, and the mammoths froze. However, everyone is mistaken.Lands in the Arctic get little precipitation, and a mile or more of ice is a lot of water. Before it can fall as snow, it has to evaporate from the ocean and be transported. John Tyndall, a prominent British physicist, realized in 1883 that a mountain of ice in the North requires a lot of energy everywhere else, which means heat. An ice age requires not a cooler climate but a warmer one with a cold spot where the ice is.
That lands near the pole were warm and ice-free during the Ice Age has been known—and ignored—since the 1700s. Tools and other signs of human habitation are (conventionally) at least 30,000 years old.
Pleistocene remains indicate that extensive grasslands supported large populations of many animal species. This warm climate stretched across the northern parts of Siberia, Alaska, Canada, and Greenland, while land to the South was buried under thousands of feet of ice. Further south, beyond the ice, the warm climate again asserted itself.
Glacial scratches in rock show that the ice moved not from the pole but from a number of localized sources. It melted back in a similar way, retreating to local high points from all directions, not generally from south to north.
It all but disappeared during the ensuing interglacial period. The mammoths and the other species now discovered melting out of the permafrost flourished for another several thousand years before being quick-frozen in the purée of flesh, fiber, and gravel that covers the Arctic today. A correct map of the data shows that the ice occurred in a ring around the pole.
Ring of Ice, Ring of Fire
Al Gore Is Lying Low -- for Good Reason
Once it becomes clear to everyone that the AGW theory is based on cleverly manipulated data twisted by rigged computer models controlled by several dozen IPCC politicians/scientists, we can expect that investors who lose millions by investing in these companies will eventually haul Mr. Gore and the insider IPCC scientists into court.
Once it becomes clear to everyone that the AGW theory is based on cleverly manipulated data twisted by rigged computer models controlled by several dozen IPCC politicians/scientists, we can expect that investors who lose millions by investing in these companies will eventually haul Mr. Gore and the insider IPCC scientists into court.
... But, but, that can't be Darkbeaver. Gore and the IPCC scientists have graphs and links and statistics... They can't possibly be wrong!
Nothing. I'm asking you specifically how magnetic polar migration, what Petros was referring to can cause, as you said "Differential exposure of polar glaciers to the sun."
If you had bothered to check when I was explaining the glaciation events earlier, one of the Milankovitch cycles I referred to is called precession. The wobble around Earth's rotational axis changes the direction the poles are pointing towards, which does cause changes in the amount of sunlight (insolation) that reaches the surface.
But, that is not at all the same thing as the magnetic poles migrating. You need to read more carefully if you think that the precession is what Petros' article was talking about.
So I see that you've finally got it right and stopped your references to polar reversal as opposed to polar migration. Perhaps you were confused or perhaps attempting to redirect the conversation.
In large part, you have already answered your own question (in part) in the above description. Polar migration, whether it is the cause or the symptom of the axial changes will expose (historically) different areas to greater exposure to the sun... You can fill in the blanks for the rest of the argument, the theoretical effects are pretty straight forward.
But this is only one component of our discussion. You are welcome to go back to my last post to you and address these issues as I feel they are more directly relevant to the issue at hand.
In large part, you have already answered your own question (in part) in the above description. Polar migration, whether it is the cause or the symptom of the axial changes will expose (historically) different areas to greater exposure to the sun... You can fill in the blanks for the rest of the argument, the theoretical effects are pretty straight forward.
But this is only one component of our discussion. You are welcome to go back to my last post to you and address these issues as I feel they are more directly relevant to the issue at hand.
It wasn't a compelling argument at all....you don't even know the difference do you?
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Can't visualize the shaded areas can you? You should review what you think you know about Mr McCarthy as well, where I'm sure one of two things will happen, a/ you will feel stupid for using terms you knew nothing about or b/you'll stiffen your bias and continue wading in the warm shallow end toward the glowing cheeseburger in the distance.:lol:
I've been posting about the same mechanism you claim to want to see for a couple of years now. Electrically driven weather , but you give it zero attention. It's in the spin.
News Item: Electric Weather 30 May 2004
Electric rainmaking has been criticized by experts who admit they don't understand lightning. The answer lies in the electrical nature of the solar system.
Ouch! I'm mortally wounded by that scathing retort.
Do you guys get to drink the Kool-Aid before the hand-holding and singing of We Shall Overcome, or is it the refreshment for afterwards? (full recognition to Walter for that reference)
Do you guys get to drink the Kool-Aid before the hand-holding and singing of We Shall Overcome, or is it the refreshment for afterwards? (full recognition to Walter for that reference)
Yeah I know it hurt conspiracy guys always have weak personalities.:roll:
I already pwnd you once dear boy, don't make me do it again.:lol:
I think it may be time to put at the bottom of the toy box.....
What about the Kool-Aid?
pwnd? Funny - By that do you mean that you have no argument?
I suppose so.
pwnd? Funny - By that do you mean that you have no argument?
I suppose so.
He is a simple minded thing that wants to be a lap dancer. An argument of any kind would be completely beyond her abilities. What you read and see is all you'll ever get from the poor misguided thing.
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