Has the group he belongs to laid down their arms yet? Be happy, he is having a wonderful time compared to what he would be doing if he wasn't captured.:angel5:
Why Canada isn't seeking Omar Khadr's Return?
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Has the group he belongs to laid down their arms yet? Be happy, he is having a wonderful time compared to what he would be doing if he wasn't captured.:angel5:
I'll ask again...how have our captured soldiers and civillians fared in the hands of Al Queda, Taliban, and Insurgent hands?
Not very well. In fact all have been executed. Some have even had their heads sawed off.
I'd much rather spend my time in GITMO than being infront of an video camera while someone from Al Queda reads a statement behind me.
What about you?
Did you ever see the video of the Canadian Snipers?
Wow that is some clip. They were sniping guys from about a mile away and have the records for sniping.
Are they cowards?
Not in my book.
With the aid of hotter US rounds, 2430meters out.
"What did you feel when you pulled the trigger?"
"Recoil"
He was considered a man by Middle Eastern, terrorist standards. He too saw himself as a man. That's good enough, ain't it?
As far as his guilt is concerned, as another poster pointed out, he was in Afghanistan illegally, he was fighting illegally and his entire organization that he yearned to be with are illegal.
BTW - There are all kinds of Canadians in American, Russian and Saudi prisons.
It might be slow but it is a process, Gerry.
Murderers commonly have 2-3 years of pre-trial custody before a verdict is rendered, depending on the notoriety.... in Canada.
Looks like there is a healthy discussion going on here
Well said, Colpy. However, I'm not stating that Canada is violating the Charter by not seeking his release. It's the implied inaction of NOT PROTECTING his rights, which have been violated, as promised by the Charter.
How can one promise that they are here to protect one's rights, and then turn a blindeye to an admitted violation? Sure, maybe not repatriating isn't against the Charter, but find SOME remedy?? Do something to stop the violations.
- Tyler
Can we establish that he was even capable of being called a Canadian citizen?Looks like there is a healthy discussion going on here
Well said, Colpy. However, I'm not stating that Canada is violating the Charter by not seeking his release. It's the implied inaction of NOT PROTECTING his rights, which have been violated, as promised by the Charter.
How can one promise that they are here to protect one's rights, and then turn a blindeye to an admitted violation? Sure, maybe not repatriating isn't against the Charter, but find SOME remedy?? Do something to stop the violations.
- Tyler
I mean he was not a resident anymore, he wasn't eligible for even health care in Ontario.
So how far back do we go to protect so called Canadians?
How about expats that move to.....oh...lets say florida....... work there for over 10 - 15 years...... have they given up their status as a Canadian citizen?
(I know the analogy isn't perfect since we are talking about Kahdr who was a child and the expat is an adult)
We've been down this road before Gh. My belief is, if you ain't payin' you ain't playin'.
Now, I'm more forgiving to those that move out of country for work, hell I've work all over the globe myself. All while paying taxes here, mind you. But none the less, they are being productive.
Omar, left Canada as a minor, but then chose to move away from his parents and continue his training as a terrorist, abroad.
1, he chose to knowingly engage in illegal activities.
2, him and his family have expressed nothing but contempt for this nation.
3, he engage in illegal activities against a NATO force.
4, he has no legitimate claim to any rights and freedoms afforded Canadian citizenry abroad.
He is however entitled to protection under the UN child soldier provisions. But as you said, who the hell listens to the UN.
Now, given he represents a certain criteria, that has at no time risen in the history of armed conflict. I'm willing to give the US a little leeway in how long it will take to bring him to justice. As I have shown a few times on this board. He is entitled to...nothing really.
Under military law, he was an un uniformed combatant. And as such is has no legal right to anything. It is an uncharted territory on the new battlefield.
In past wars, a field tribunal would have found him guilty of being a spy, high treason and summarily shot him.
I'm all for the latter, we wouldn't be having this argument today if it were still accepted combat practice.
Nope.. But that does not absolve them from answering for their actions and facing the law.
