Isaac Newtons Electric Universe

[darkbeaver]

"And now we might add something concerning a certain most subtle spirit which pervades and lies hid in all gross bodies; by the force and action of which spirit the particles of bodies attract one another at near distances, and cohere, if contiguous; and electric bodies operate to greater distances, as well repelling as attracting the neighboring corpuscles; and light is emitted, reflected, refracted, inflected, and heats bodies; and all sensation is excited, and the members of animal bodies move at the command of the will, namely, by the vibrations of this spirit, mutually propagated along the solid filaments of the nerves, from the outward organs of sense to the brain, and from the brain into the muscles. But these are things that cannot be explained in few words, nor are we furnished with that sufficiency of experiments which is required to an accurate determination and demonstration of the laws by which this electric and elastic spirit operates." -- Isaac Newton, mathematician, Principia, 1686

 

[eh1eh]

It is still not fully understood to this day.
It does however allow for the explanation of human thoughts at certain junctures in life with the understanding of 'short circuits'.

;-)

 

[darkbeaver]

I'm betting that somewhere on this planet it is fully understood, and has been for thousands of years. At the beginning of the 20th century there was a definite and powerful lobby to quash any and all advances in understanding the electromagnetic nature of the universe and it obtains to this day. I will suggest that Einstein, rather than being a major contributor to science and civilization was in fact an agent of obfuscation. As evidence I present the complete marginalization of Tesla, whom most of us never learned anything about in school,even in the face of his unmatched contributions to science. This did not and could not occur by accident. This is miseducation on a global scale, by design and points to long standing remote controls.

 

[countryboy]

I'm betting that somewhere on this planet it is fully understood, and has been for thousands of years. At the beginning of the 20th century there was a definite and powerful lobby to quash any and all advances in understanding the electromagnetic nature of the universe and it obtains to this day. I will suggest that Einstein, rather than being a major contributor to science and civilization was in fact an agent of obfuscation. As evidence I present the complete marginalization of Tesla, whom most of us never learned anything about in school,even in the face of his unmatched contributions to science. This did not and could not occur by accident. This is miseducation on a global scale, by design and points to long standing remote controls.

DB - I am not educated in sciences (beyond high school), but I can't disagree with what you're saying, especially about Tesla. I had heard about him here and there a long time ago, and then was reminded about him again on this forum just recently. I've been doing some reading about him since then, and he does seem to have been marginalized indeed.

I know some people over in Asia who would agree with you on the fact that this kind of knowledge has been understood by a few, and for a long time. I see bits and pieces of it emerging here and there in some forms of natural "energy healing", but I think the big picture night go well beyond that. Fascinating.

 

[darkbeaver]

DB - I am not educated in sciences (beyond high school), but I can't disagree with what you're saying, especially about Tesla. I had heard about him here and there a long time ago, and then was reminded about him again on this forum just recently. I've been doing some reading about him since then, and he does seem to have been marginalized indeed.

I know some people over in Asia who would agree with you on the fact that this kind of knowledge has been understood by a few, and for a long time. I see bits and pieces of it emerging here and there in some forms of natural "energy healing", but I think the big picture night go well beyond that. Fascinating.

He's by no means the only one countryboy. There are legions of them, all through recorded history it is apparent what happens to proud nails in the deck, they get pounded in, to the approved height, with their brother and sister nails. This is the way of the world and how power is held by the organisms behind the curtain/veil that logic dictates must be there. This ensures their continued rule and continuation is all they care about and nothing and nobody is allowed to threaten that.
So here we are living in a world made possible by this one man Tesla, and the vast majority of us know nothing about him but Edison his poor imitator we were educated about, I remember that much from school. Last week I talked to a marine engineer who while in a shipyard had mentioned Tesla while in the yards electrical shop, none of the electricians were aware of Teslas contribution to their own bloody trade. How is this possible? Well the next question we should ask is, what is our education really all about if a powerful fact like Tesla can be written out of history to such an extent and why? History belongs to the victors and we don't even see them. Humans have been sacrificed by the million to contain and suppress any outbreak of forbidden knowledge, like you have observed there are pockets here and there, they know the score.

 

[countryboy]

He's by no means the only one countryboy. There are legions of them, all through recorded history it is apparent what happens to proud nails in the deck, they get pounded in, to the approved height, with their brother and sister nails. This is the way of the world and how power is held by the organisms behind the curtain/veil that logic dictates must be there. This ensures their continued rule and continuation is all they care about and nothing and nobody is allowed to threaten that.
So here we are living in a world made possible by this one man Tesla, and the vast majority of us know nothing about him but Edison his poor imitator we were educated about, I remember that much from school. Last week I talked to a marine engineer who while in a shipyard had mentioned Tesla while in the yards electrical shop, none of the electricians were aware of Teslas contribution to their own bloody trade. How is this possible? Well the next question we should ask is, what is our education really all about if a powerful fact like Tesla can be written out of history to such an extent and why? History belongs to the victors and we don't even see them. Humans have been sacrificed by the million to contain and suppress any outbreak of forbidden knowledge, like you have observed there are pockets here and there, they know the score.

Yes, I see what you mean. Makes a person start to do some serious thinking about why? Of course, that would require a bit of an open mind, and those seem to be getting rather short in supply these days. I wonder why we treat formal education as the "last word" when in fact it should be just the beginning of a lifelong learning process. Sad.

 

[Niflmir]

Tesla was a nut. He wore gloves because he was obsessed with never coming into contact with germs. He wouldn't kiss his own mother. In the end, he dwindled into obscurity trying to build a device capable of controlling lightning. A real mad scientist.

You really have a bizarre conception of Einstein and the road to relativity? Ever hear of a person by the name of Lorentz? How about Poincaré? They developed a little known theory based completely on electrodynamics which eventually (with the dropping of the idea of an Aether) became special relativity, although not by their agency.

Want to know what Einstein did for special relativity? Dropped the aether. Everything was already contained in the Maxwell equations, and can be shown in two seconds with modern mathematics. It was all there, and there were many people besides Einstein who knew it.

Now, since special relativity is considered a fact (because electromagnetism proves it), gravity must also have a description with the same transformation properties. It must be nonlinear (since the field would have energy, and thus gravitate), and be derivable from an action. The Hilbert action is the simplest such action which gives the Einstein equations for gravity which have been tested to quite some accuracy to date.

Yes, ultimately because of electromagnetism, we knew to generalize Newtonian gravity into general relativity.

 

[darkbeaver]

The world desperately needs more nuts. A good set of nuts can work wonders.

 

[darkbeaver]

"When a true genius appears in the world you may know him by this sign; that the dunces are all in confederacy against him." -- Jonathan Swift, author, 1726;-)

 

[darkbeaver]

"Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality." -- Nikola Tesla, physicist, 193