Right well you just hang tight, it'll all be back in a few centurys.
I'll be fine.;-)
U.S. not to accept 2nd place in world economy while India, China race for top
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I'll be fine.;-)
The Brits know what to do when getting and being knocked off the top. I hope they taught you right fly boy.
I don’t think I agree with that, Petros. It is quite possible that India and China may overtake USA, but that doesn’t’ mean that you can write USA off. USA will still continue doing well (and be important internationally), but it only means that India and China will do better, and catch up with USA (and possibly surpass her).
If you look at the past superpowers such as Britain or France, they are hardly third world counties. They are highly developed, desirable places to live. It is just that they are not world powers any more.
Don’t confuse being a world power or superpower with being a developed country; the two are not the same.
That is how it usually works out, Avro. A country has a few decades or a few centuries at the top, then it is replaced by another country. It wouldn’t surprise me if in another 50 or 100 years India and China become too expensive to do business and companies start going to places like Somalia and Sudan (assuming they get rid of the Muslim Fundamentalism by then).
However, by then India and China would have become strong superpowers, competing with USA. By then a third of the population of the world (India and China combined) will have become much more prosperous than now, and it is all to the good.
If a third of the world started consuming the same amount of resources as the US does we would be utterly screwed.
We are so brainwashed that we use the ad hoc term "super power" which has been imposed to mask the reality of imperialism precisely because it came to mean all that is evil vile and disgusting. We want to compare the USA with the last empire on which the sun never set in its heyday and now the sun refuses to shine upon. So the fall was precipitous and so it follows, the same will come to pass with respect to the USA. They don't make empires like they used to. These modern examples are too stupid and way to greedy to not begin to stink and rot in barely a few generations. The question is, can the USA remain intact as a viable singularity? Already talk of cessation from the union rings in the state capitals. It's pull out or be pulled down. Civil war is a definite possibility.
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Never happen, Canaduh. No doubt they will consume more resources as they become more prosperous. However, I don’t think they will ever rival USA in terms of consumption, they just don’t have that many resources.
A large population living in a limited space by its nature puts limits on how much resources people can use. Look at Europe. Per capita they consume far fewer resources than North Americans do. They have smaller houses, smaller cars, many of them don’t have central heating (or if they do, they keep it shut off at nights), they keep the indoor temperature lot lower than we do here.
When India and China become prosperous (and they are a long was off from being called prosperous countries), they will be on the style of Europe, rather than North America.
It certainly is, we don’t know how a big country like USA will react to being no. 2 (or even no. 3). The country may well break up.
However, that does not mean that it will become a third world country. Again, look at the past empires, none of them can be called third world counties. Most of them are doing quite well, financially. I expect USA will be no different.
Where is Assyerian Empire now, the Mongol and Babalon. Empires frequently decend to dust let alone third place. Sudan was an empire, Africa and the orient are literally littered with dust piles representing the last earthlys of imperialism. South and central America. The first becomes the last, poverty begins in opulence. In Europe it is exactly the same. Always the great and mighty falls and blows away.
None of previous empires that are no more have been built on the spirit of freedom, the right to liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Only the United States.
So, quit your premature gloating about the decline of the United States. It is far more likely that the people of China (or for that matter India, with its despicable cast system, masquarading as "democracy") will rise and want to be more like Americans.
So, quit your premature gloating about the decline of the United States. It is far more likely that the people of China (or for that matter India, with its despicable cast system, masquarading as "democracy") will rise and want to be more like Americans.
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Freedom and liberty?. What America are you talking about, pre 911 maybe I'd agree.
Here you are talking of very old, sometimes ancient empires. The model was different back then. When the empire broke up, the barbarians usually invaded the remnants of the empire and looted and pillaged to their heart’s content. All the knowledge, knowhow, scientific advances were usually lost and the previous empire reverted to poverty and barbarism.
That model no longer applies. When the British Empire broke up, nobody invaded and destroyed Britain. Same with France after Napoleon, you didn’t see a horde of barbarians invading France and destroying everything. Even in the case of Germany, there was very little destruction after Hitler’s surrender and Germany was free to rebuild.
Same thing applies here. Nobody is going to invade USA when it becomes No.2 (and if they did, they will regret it anyway). USA will be free to prosper and it will continue to prosper. It is just that other countries may prosper at a faster rate and overtake USA.
But I hardly think that the old model of Assyrian empire or Babylon Empire applies any more.
"Freedom and liberty?. What America are you talking about, pre 911 maybe I'd agree."
I am talking about the United States Constitution, which, according to my latest information, is still in effect, despite all the under-the-table, bribery-laden efforts of this current President and his faithful servants, the liberal House and Senate.
I am talking about the United States Constitution, which, according to my latest information, is still in effect, despite all the under-the-table, bribery-laden efforts of this current President and his faithful servants, the liberal House and Senate.
America isn't so different from Rome, Spain, England or the Byzantines. Many things that constitution was made to protect are out dated or have been swept aside by successions of moronic supreme court justices and presidents.
I dont know, the Indians and Pakis seem to be doing a pretty good job of it since 1947.
Mores the pity SJP.
The foundations of the model can never be different SJP, "power corrupts absolute power corrupts absolutely." Imperialism is like sex SJP, there are only so many positions.