Raw Milk Victories

countryboy

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If everything was so perfect, it's doubtful we'd be seeing the epidemic of obesity and diabetes these days.QUOTE]

The problem people have re: obesity and diabetes belongs
to them, I get very tired of 'others' being blamed for
the poor choices and overconsumption of food by people who
are lazy, don't do anything, eat too much, and depend on
everyone else, plus pills, to rid them of their problems.

We preach 'choice', but so many don't bother to make the
right one.

No one force feeds the wrong food or drink to anyone, with the
exception of 'what' parents feed their children.

Those who manufacture and sell, depend on the purchase of
those products, and if they don't sell, 'poof' out of
business, and if more people were smarter when they open
their purses, there would be many more, out of business.

Exactly. And all that stuff is there for the choosing - it's legal and deemed safe by the powers that be.

I want to be able to choose raw milk...good, clean raw milk. It's better than pasteurized milk - that's the way I see it and it should be my choice. Thank you for your support! ;-)
 

talloola

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Exactly. And all that stuff is there for the choosing - it's legal and deemed safe by the powers that be.

I want to be able to choose raw milk...good, clean raw milk. It's better than pasteurized milk - that's the way I see it and it should be my choice. Thank you for your support! ;-)

as long as 'we' are not blaming others for our choices that
make us diabetic and sick, which was 'my point right'?
 

countryboy

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when did we stop.

what year did pastuerizing begin.(yeah I know it was in
the article, but you know I only picked out one item from
one article, didn't read in detail, never do.

Tallolla - I'm on dial-up so some of the sites take too long to appear. However, I found this but I think it relates to the US:

Pasteurization destroys enzymes, diminishes vitamin content, denatures fragile milk proteins, destroys vitamins C, B12 and B6, kills beneficial bacteria, promotes pathogens and is associated with allergies, increased tooth decay, colic in infants, growth problems in children, osteoporosis, arthritis, heart disease and cancer. Calves fed pasteurized milk do poorly and many die before maturity. Raw milk sours naturally but pasteurized milk turns putrid; processors must remove slime and pus from pasteurized milk by a process of centrifugal clarification. Inspection of dairy herds for disease is not required for pasteurized milk. Pasteurization was instituted in the 1920s to combat TB, infant diarrhea, undulant fever and other diseases caused by poor animal nutrition and dirty production methods. But times have changed and modern stainless steel tanks, milking machines, refrigerated trucks and inspection methods make pasteurization absolutely unnecessary for public protection. And pasteurization does not always kill the bacteria for Johne’s disease suspected of causing Crohn's disease in humans with which most confinement cows are infected. Much commercial milk is now ultra-pasteurized to get rid of heat-resistant bacteria and give it a longer shelf life. Ultra-pasteurization is a violent process that takes milk from a chilled temperature to above the boiling point in less than two seconds. Clean raw milk from certified healthy cows is available commercially in several states and may be bought directly from the farm in many more. (Sources are listed on www.realmilk.com.)
 

#juan

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You know, TB is almost gone and one of the reasons is milk pasteurization. There is no measurable health benefit from drinking unpasteurized milk when risks are weighed.
 

tay

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Eastern Ontario farmer Michael Ilgert appeared in front of a review board in a bid to argue that raw milk does not pose a health risk.

An eastern Ontario farmer is hoping to persuade the province to back down on its long-held stance against the sale and distribution of raw milk as he fights an order to stop selling the product.

Michael Ilgert said he feels it’s important to argue his own case despite the fact that the sale and distribution of raw milk remains illegal in Canada.

“People are begging me for milk, and I’m not even allowed to give it to them or sell it to them,” Ilgert said in an interview before a Tuesday hearing to appeal the cease and desist order he was issued. “I’m trying to make some changes here. Some positive changes. The government should listen to their own people.”

Ilgert said he began offering raw milk in 2010 through a cow-share program, which sees customers collectively pay for the ownership of grass-fed cows that are housed and milked on his property.

He said health officials had inspected the premises at Ilgert’s Organic Acres near Golden Lake, Ont., in the past and laid down conditions that he was to abide by to keep selling raw milk.

Ilgert argued he was abiding by all those conditions up to and including November 2016, when the Renfrew County and District Health Unit issued a cease and desist order against him. Under the terms of that order, Ilgert was asked to halt his cow-share operation in order to comply with federal and provincial laws that forbid the sale or distribution of raw milk.

The farmer’s appeal of that order was heard by Ontario’s Health Services Appeal and Review Board on Tuesday. A decision is expected at a later date.

Canadian health authorities say unpasteurized milk, or milk that has not been heated to a certain temperature, contains pathogens and bacteria that make it unsafe to drink.

Ilgert was expected to be supported at his appeal hearing by Michael Schmidt, the Ontario farmer who helped put raw milk in the national spotlight with his lengthy court battles.

Schmidt was found not guilty of violating the Health Protection and Promotion Act and Milk Act in 2010, only to see his acquittal appealed and ultimately overturned a year later.

Schmidt launched a counter appeal that went all the way to the country’s top court, but the Supreme Court ultimately opted not to hear the argument in 2014. Schmidt’s 13 convictions and fine for nearly $10,000 remained in place.

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada...order-to-stop-selling-unpasteurized-milk.html
 

davesmom

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I am totally in favour of making raw mild available to the public if they want it. Even to go back to the time before over-pasteurization would be a benefit. That's when milk came in glass bottles and the cream still rose to the top. Many times I have wished I could buy some raw milk to make my own butter and whipped cream.


I was bottle fed as a baby on raw cow's milk as were most babies in those days. Never tasted pasteurized milk until we left the farm in the '50s. That's when I stopped drinking milk because there was no taste to it compared with raw milk. Raw milk has a sweet, wholesome taste. Comparatively, pasteurized milk tastes like water.


Raw milk was never dangerous. Any danger of its use was in unsanitary conditions in which cows were kept, lack of veterinary care and vaccinations and improper storage of the milk. Refrigerators were not so common pre-1950; we kept our milk and meat products in a bucket lowered into a well. It was kept cold and so protected from bacterial contamination.


There is no reason why people who distrust raw milk can not continue to buy pasteurized and for those who prefer raw milk to have access to it. Government has regulated the food industry, supposedly to make it safer but in fact there are more illnesses today from improper food handling than back in the day when people were responsible for their own health and safety. .


When you think about how ridiculous governmental regulations are you have to wonder how they come up with their rules.


1) A lady who sold fresh eggs from free ranging hens was banned from selling eggs at a local farmer's market because they were ungraded. Now can anyone tell me what difference 'grading' makes to the safety of the egg?
2) A local bakery that has been making meat pies for 30 years was ordered to stop selling meat pies because they couldn't guarantee that they were safe for consumption.


While these regulations were being enforced, meat producers and marketers are allowed to produce and sell meat from animals that have been shot full of chemicals.
Government accepts meat for public use that is imported from foreign countries with the worst sanitation on the planet.
Government allows the sale of so-called 'organic' foods for prices much higher than that of regular products. What's that about?
It's a gross misuse of the word 'organic'.
And much more!