Why are tea baggers white?

[SirJosephPorter]

"For instance, if Bobby Jindal is the Republican nominee, chances are that he will attract most of the Asian votes."

So, who is the racist here??

And how is that a racist comment, YJ? Jindal is of Indian origin, so it stands to reason that most Indians would want to vote for him, they would naturally like to see one of their own become the president.

Indeed, in 2008, some black conservatives voted for Obama, just because he is black. It would have been a historic moment if he had been elected president, and those black conservatives (who voted for him) wanted to be a part of it.

Perhaps that is the problem here. Republicans understand d one thing by the word ‘racism’, Democrats and blacks understand something different altogether. And perhaps that is why when conservatives keep the continuous drumbeat of how most liberals are racist, it doesn’t cut any mustard with blacks. Liberals are not racist as blacks understand the word ‘racism’, conservatives are.

Thus I see nothing wrong or racist with my statement.

 

[Avro]

"For instance, if Bobby Jindal is the Republican nominee, chances are that he will attract most of the Asian votes."

So, who is the racist here??

Same as your assertion most blacks vote for Obama because he is black.

 

[Avro]

And how is that a racist comment, YJ? Jindal is of Indian origin, so it stands to reason that most Indians would want to vote for him, they would naturally like to see one of their own become the president.

Indeed, in 2008, some black conservatives voted for Obama, just because he is black. It would have been a historic moment if he had been elected president, and those black conservatives (who voted for him) wanted to be a part of it.

Perhaps that is the problem here. Republicans understand d one thing by the word ‘racism’, Democrats and blacks understand something different altogether. And perhaps that is why when conservatives keep the continuous drumbeat of how most liberals are racist, it doesn’t cut any mustard with blacks. Liberals are not racist as blacks understand the word ‘racism’, conservatives are.

Thus I see nothing wrong or racist with my statement.

So you are the same, voters vote based more on race than they do policy.

So how is it republicans because they may be mostly white are racist and minorities who may be mostly democrats aren't racist?

 

[JLM]

Y.J., S.J.- You two have been arguing about the same trivial B.S. for years and neither one of you has EVER been right, as anyone who ties themselves to ANY political party has got a serious mental disorder. Nobody in their right mind volunteers as a slave to anyone, especially a bunch of inept crooks. Who cares who the Blacks (or Eskimos or Siamese or Lithuanians) vote for?

 

[SirJosephPorter]

Y.J., S.J.- You two have been arguing about the same trivial B.S. for years and neither one of you has EVER been right, as anyone who ties themselves to ANY political party has got a serious mental disorder. Nobody in their right mind volunteers as a slave to anyone, especially a bunch of inept crooks. Who cares who the Blacks (or Eskimos or Siamese or Lithuanians) vote for?

JLM suppose we discuss these things, what is it to you? We are here to discuss issues, are we not? If you don’t like a particular discussion, you are free to ignore it.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

So you are the same, voters vote based more on race than they do policy.

So how is it republicans because they may be mostly white are racist and minorities who may be mostly democrats aren't racist?

Avro, sometimes voters vote based upon race (or more accurately, upon ethnic origin), I don’t see anything wrong with that.

Jindahl is of Indian origin, is it really so surprising if most Indians vote for him? Or suppose tomorrow there a candidate of Somali origin, do you really think that all the Somalis won’t vote for him? Of course they would, that is how politics works.

To give your compatriot a leg up, try to help someone from your region, your ethnic group is not racism, at least in my opinion. Racism is calling somebody derogatory names based upon race, denying somebody employment, education opportunities, refusing to rent to somebody because of race etc. that constitutes racism, at least in my opinion.

But to vote for somebody because he has the same origins as you, perhaps even the same race as you, I hardly think that is racism. That happens routinely.

 

[YukonJack]

'But to vote for somebody because he has the same origins as you, perhaps even the same race as you, I hardly think that is racism. That happens routinely."

Yes, and it is called by two very appropriate namess: Blindness and stupidity.

 

[gopher]

''Well, they have had a split in them also. A more conservative group has broken out.''


That is so typical of many conservatives. A Clarence Thomas hates blacks. A Linda Chavez hates Hispanics. A Michelle Malkin hates Asians. And far right gays hate other gays.

There is only one thing common to the right wing: self hatred.

 

[gopher]

''Most Hispanics in south Florida which are composed of Cubans consider themselves white. ''

This is true only of light skinned Cubanos who can readily pass for white and are not subjected to harassment from cops. Dark skinned Cubanos face the same hassles from cops that other Latinos face and do not consider themselves white.

 

[CDNBear]

''Most Hispanics in south Florida which are composed of Cubans consider themselves white. ''

This is true only of light skinned Cubanos who can readily pass for white and are not subjected to harassment from cops. Dark skinned Cubanos face the same hassles from cops that other Latinos face and do not consider themselves white.

So in other words, racism, begets racism? I not so much that either party is better then the other, it all about race?

 

[ironsides]

He may have been fictional but he represented American conservatives pretty accurately, EagleSmack. Sure, being a comedy show, they exaggerated to get laughs, but there was plenty of realism at its roots.

Thus a conservative probably wouldn’t say to a Hispanic that he is not even equal to a black, but that is pretty much what he may be thinking.

Get away from the TV man, it was a comedy and did not represent anything. Just a good sitcom, entertainment nothing more. It was not the History Channel. The Beverly Hillbillies were not typical hillbillies either.

 

[JLM]

Get away from the TV man, it was a comedy and did not represent anything. Just a good sitcom, entertainment nothing more. It was not the History Channel. The Beverly Hillbillies were not typical hillbillies either.

Exactly.............:smile:

 

[SirJosephPorter]

'But to vote for somebody because he has the same origins as you, perhaps even the same race as you, I hardly think that is racism. That happens routinely."

Yes, and it is called by two very appropriate namess: Blindness and stupidity.

Not at all. it is called, taking care of one's own.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

''Most Hispanics in south Florida which are composed of Cubans consider themselves white. ''

This is true only of light skinned Cubanos who can readily pass for white and are not subjected to harassment from cops. Dark skinned Cubanos face the same hassles from cops that other Latinos face and do not consider themselves white.

Quite so, Gopher. Even among blacks and Hispanics there is the difference between light colored ones and dark colored ones. Thus light colored blacks usually look down on dark colored blacks.

Human nature is the same everywhere, whether white, black, Asian or Hispanic. There is a natural tendency to separate people into groups and then look down upon those who look different.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

Get away from the TV man, it was a comedy and did not represent anything. Just a good sitcom, entertainment nothing more. It was not the History Channel. The Beverly Hillbillies were not typical hillbillies either.

I agree that Beverly Hillbillies was pure entertainment, it was a great show. However, there was plenty of realism in comedies such as All in The Family, MASH, Jeffersons etc. In a sense, these comedies were a commentary on the contemporary society. Indeed that is why these shows (especially All in the Family and MASH) were often controversial.

All in the Family tackled subjects like racism (of course), sexism, religious bigotry, lesbianism, transsexualism, mental handicap etc. And it did that while making us laugh. It was a very avant garde show, which tackled many controversial topics.

 

[JLM]

I agree that Beverly Hillbillies was pure entertainment, it was a great show. However, there was plenty of realism in comedies such as All in The Family, MASH, Jefferson’s etc. In a sense, these comedies were a commentary on the contemporary society. Indeed that is why these shows (especially All in the Family and MASH) were often controversial.

All in the Family tackled subjects like racism (of course), sexism, religious bigotry, lesbianism, transsexualism, mental handicap etc. And it did that while making us laugh. It was a very avant garde show, which tackled many controversial topics.

All in the Family was my favourite comedy of all time. Archie, Edith and Meathead were all class acts.

 

[EagleSmack]

And what is the problem here, EagleSmack? I assume most of the 7-11 or Dunkin Donuts in USA are probably owned by Indians.

I would not think that you would see a problem with Biden's statement as your statement is just as ignorant and racist. You prove my point once again.

 

[YukonJack]

"Same as your assertion most blacks vote for Obama because he is black."

Can you prove me wrong? Can you prove that blacks would have voted for a white guy/girl with exactly the same political philosophy as Zerobama's?

 

[YukonJack]

"So in other words, racism, begets racism? I not so much that either party is better then the other, it all about race?"

Of course, it does! When an average Grade 6 educated black person sees Jesse Jackson or Al Sharptonbad-mouth whitey, they will automatically - yes, non-thinkingly - subscribe to the same racist philosophy.

Did you see the mindless mob in the National Mall on January 20th, 2009?

 

[SirJosephPorter]

I would not think that you would see a problem with Biden's statement as your statement is just as ignorant and racist. You prove my point once again.

Up to your same old rant again, EagleSmack? Well, I don’t mind pointing out to you again, it is the conservatives who have a problem with racism, not the liberals. Most blacks regard conservatives as racist, that is why they overwhelmingly vote against them.

Do you really think that referring to liberals and blacks as racist is going to get your party the black vote? Maybe you do, who can tell how a conservative Republican mind works.

Not only blacks, but even Hispanics regard you people as racists, that is why they vote for Democrats in such large proportion (though perhaps not as lop sided as blacks). How did the vicious, vitriolic trashing, attempts at personal destruction of Sottomoyer work for your party in improving its relations with Hispanics?