Canada most peaceful nation in world

[china]

But I also think there are more than 7 countries more peaceful than we are.
The Vatican, Sweden, Netherlands, Liechtenstein, Denmark, Finland, Norway, Iceland, Germany, Belgium, Portugal, Switzerland, Monaco, Italy all seem pretty peaceful to me. And that's just in Europe. Then there's Belize, Peru, Chile, Paraguay, Bora Bora, Cuba, Costa Rica, and so on.

Anna G
Jokey forgets that the UN uses only 3 parameters in their research and they don't consider countries below a certain level of development. 2 huge factors that punch major holes in his rosy-colored views.
Bravo Anna ,and / but you forgot Greenland .HaHa

 

[SirJosephPorter]

And I was debating that opinion. I made some valid points, I thought, and I've provided facts about Paraguay that show it is not a more peaceful country than Canada.

Anybody who thinks that Paraguay is more peaceful country than Canada has a very narrow, very limited knowledge of the world indeed. Perhaps they should consider moving to Paraguay.

It is my experience that those who consistently badmouth Canada haven’t really traveled abroad, haven’t seen the world first hand. They may have traveled to Florida, but that is it. They have not seen the appalling poverty, corruption, the injustices, the dirt, the filth in the third world. They haven’t experienced, the cramped living conditions, the traffic jams, the crowds of Europe. They haven’t experienced the searing heat of Australia (and the Ozone hole over Australia), or of Saudi Arabia, Kuwait etc. (many middle east countires can only be described as air conditioned prisons).

Well, I have. I have traveled worldwide, I have lived in Britain and USA (for several years each). I think Canada is one of the best, if not the best country in the world (I would put Australia and New Zealand a close second). And I speak not from the point of view of patriotism, but from experience.

 

[JLM]

Anybody who thinks that Paraguay is more peaceful country than Canada has a very narrow, very limited knowledge of the world indeed. Perhaps they should consider moving to Paraguay.

It is my experience that those who consistently badmouth Canada haven’t really traveled abroad, haven’t seen the world first hand. They may have traveled to Florida, but that is it. They have not seen the appalling poverty, corruption, the injustices, the dirt, the filth in the third world. They haven’t experienced, the cramped living conditions, the traffic jams, the crowds of Europe. They haven’t experienced the searing heat of Australia (and the Ozone hole over Australia), or of Saudi Arabia, Kuwait etc. (many middle east countires can only be described as air conditioned prisons).

Well, I have. I have traveled worldwide, I have lived in Britain and USA (for several years each). I think Canada is one of the best, if not the best country in the world (I would put Australia and New Zealand a close second). And I speak not from the point of view of patriotism, but from experience.

I'd be surprised if the traffic jams and crowds in Europe are any worse than Los Angeles, not to mention the smog and pollution. :lol:

 

[SirJosephPorter]

I'd be surprised if the traffic jams and crowds in Europe are any worse than Los Angeles, not to mention the smog and pollution. :lol:

Well, I cannot speak for LA, JLM, but they are certainly much worse than anything you are likely to encounter in Toronto. They have lots of roundabouts in Europe and roundabouts are notorious in causing traffic jams. Also they have narrower roads compared to us (and still people drive faster than they do here).

Anyway, I remember an interesting tidbit about Paraguay. They had a dictator in the 70s, as most Latin American countries did. I think his name was Stroessner. He was an insomniac. If the dictator cannot sleep, then nobody sleeps, so he had decreed that all the business must be open by 6.00 a.m. So the day would start at 6.00 a.m. I assume people would have to get up much earlier than that.

I don’t know if that is still the case in Paraguay.

 

[JLM]

Well, I cannot speak for LA, JLM, but they are certainly much worse than anything you are likely to encounter in Toronto. They have lots of roundabouts in Europe and roundabouts are notorious in causing traffic jams. Also they have narrower roads compared to us (and still people drive faster than they do here).

Anyway, I remember an interesting tidbit about Paraguay. They had a dictator in the 70s, as most Latin American countries did. I think his name was Stroessner. He was an insomniac. If the dictator cannot sleep, then nobody sleeps, so he had decreed that all the business must be open by 6.00 a.m. So the day would start at 6.00 a.m. I assume people would have to get up much earlier than that.

I don’t know if that is still the case in Paraguay.

There's good dictators and bad dictators. I would think getting up early would be more good than bad, definitely be conducive to greater productivity, and early morning to my way of thinking is the best time of the day. So maybe there was a method to his madness.

 

[TenPenny]

They have lots of roundabouts in Europe and roundabouts are notorious in causing traffic jams.

That statement is completely wrong (well, to be precise, the bit about roundabouts causing traffic jams).

 

[AnnaG]

And I was debating that opinion. I made some valid points, I thought, and I've provided facts about Paraguay that show it is not a more peaceful country than Canada.

Nah. You just showed that Paraguay has a problem with sex slavery. So what? Canada has a problem with rape.
You were also not debating my opinion. You based your argument on the belief I stated those countries were more peaceful than Canada. I didn't state that. Now you wiggle around when someone pointed out your error.

 

[AnnaG]

Anybody who thinks that Paraguay is more peaceful country than Canada has a very narrow, very limited knowledge of the world indeed. Perhaps they should consider moving to Paraguay.

Another one with poor reading comprehension.

It is my experience that those who consistently badmouth Canada haven’t really traveled abroad, haven’t seen the world first hand. They may have traveled to Florida, but that is it. They have not seen the appalling poverty, corruption, the injustices, the dirt, the filth in the third world. They haven’t experienced, the cramped living conditions, the traffic jams, the crowds of Europe. They haven’t experienced the searing heat of Australia (and the Ozone hole over Australia), or of Saudi Arabia, Kuwait etc. (many middle east countires can only be described as air conditioned prisons).

Who cares what your experience is?

Well, I have. I have traveled worldwide, I have lived in Britain and USA (for several years each). I think Canada is one of the best, if not the best country in the world (I would put Australia and New Zealand a close second). And I speak not from the point of view of patriotism, but from experience.

What a hero? :roll: (all sarcasm intended)

 

[SirJosephPorter]

That statement is completely wrong (well, to be precise, the bit about roundabouts causing traffic jams).

Have you been to Britain? Have you seen the long lines, traffic pile ups at the roundabouts? To relieve the traffic jams, sometimes they put traffic lights right in the roundabouts. But that is a way of admitting their mistake, that it was wrong to put the round about in such a busy intersection.

In Britain at a roundabout you have to give way to the traffic that is already in the roundabout, the traffic in the roundabout has the right of way. Which means that if you have got a busy road to the right of you, you are sunk, there is a never ending stream of traffic from the right hand side. That will result in a long line up at your point in the roundabout.

At the traffic light, everybody gets a chance. At a roundabout you have to wait for the traffic to ease up on your right hand side.

 

[JLM]

Have you been to Britain? Have you seen the long lines, traffic pile ups at the roundabouts? To relieve the traffic jams, sometimes they put traffic lights right in the roundabouts. But that is a way of admitting their mistake, that it was wrong to put the round about in such a busy intersection.

In Britain at a roundabout you have to give way to the traffic that is already in the roundabout, the traffic in the roundabout has the right of way. Which means that if you have got a busy road to the right of you, you are sunk, there is a never ending stream of traffic from the right hand side. That will result in a long line up at your point in the roundabout.

At the traffic light, everybody gets a chance. At a roundabout you have to wait for the traffic to ease up on your right hand side.

It's a slight problem of math, you can only run a max. of 1800 cars an hour past a given point, where you have traffic lights giving equal access to both streets the number is under 900. When those numbers are exceeded you have grid lock.

 

[JLM]

P.S. I think we've veered slightly off topic, S.J.

 

[In Between Man]

I think we probably are in the context of official wars, BUT as far as man's treatment of fellow man I doubt it. Look at the street crime, look at the number of disturbed young people (and old people). I think until we can get a handle on greed we'll never be truly peaceful.

Why? What's wrong with defending freedom for the poor, peace-loving Afghanis?

Peace, and being a peaceful nation comes with its responsibilities you know!

 

[SirJosephPorter]

It's a slight problem of math, you can only run a max. of 1800 cars an hour past a given point, where you have traffic lights giving equal access to both streets the number is under 900. When those numbers are exceeded you have grid lock.

Well yes. But with roundabouts the gridlock occurs much earlier than that, since one stream of traffic always has to give way to another stream of traffic (coming from the right). With the traffic light everybody gets a chance.

Indeed, that is why in some places in UK they have placed traffic lights right inside the roundabout. This is to ease the gridlock caused by the roundabout.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

P.S. I think we've veered slightly off topic, S.J.

Oh, not to worry, JLM. I am sure we will get back to the topic shortly (in fact, alley already has).

 

[JLM]

Well yes. But with roundabouts the gridlock occurs much earlier than that, since one stream of traffic always has to give way to another stream of traffic (coming from the right). With the traffic light everybody gets a chance.

Indeed, that is why in some places in UK they have placed traffic lights right inside the roundabout. This is to ease the gridlock caused by the roundabout.

I think you may find one of the problems with the round about is some people don't know how to use them (once you are on it you keep moving until you get off). We have one here in Vernon on a busy street and everytime I've been there it's been working fine. All traffic entering a roundabout is "coming from the right".

 

[JLM]

Why? What's wrong with defending freedom for the poor, peace-loving Afghanis?

Peace, and being a peaceful nation comes with its responsibilities you know!

I don't recall saying there was something wrong with defending the freedom of the Afghanis. Actually IMHO I think to be able to be a peaceful nation you have to be prepared to go to war to defend your peace. Especially with these Tally bastards and ALqada bastards lurking behind every rock.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

All traffic entering a roundabout is "coming from the right".

It is not coming from the right, JLM, it is coming from the left (in Britain it comes from the right).

But that is the problem, isn’t it? You have to give way to the traffic that is already in the roundabout. Which means that the road to your left always has the right of way, since the traffic from there enters the roundabout before you do. And if there is a steady stream of traffic coming from that road, you are screwed. Especially during rush hours you could sit there forever.

To alleviate the problem, in Britain they have put traffic lights in some of the busier roundabouts. But then why have the roundabout, why not just the traffic light?

 

[JLM]

It is not coming from the right, JLM, it is coming from the left (in Britain it comes from the right).

But that is the problem, isn’t it? You have to give way to the traffic that is already in the roundabout. Which means that the road to your left always has the right of way, since the traffic from there enters the roundabout before you do. And if there is a steady stream of traffic coming from that road, you are screwed. Especially during rush hours you could sit there forever.

To alleviate the problem, in Britain they have put traffic lights in some of the busier roundabouts. But then why have the roundabout, why not just the traffic light?

Yes, when you are waiting to enter the roundabout the traffic is coming from the left, but there has to be a lull when the traffic in the roundabout is getting off and that's when you take the opportunity to get on.

 

[AnnaG]

Have you been to Britain? Have you seen the long lines, traffic pile ups at the roundabouts? To relieve the traffic jams, sometimes they put traffic lights right in the roundabouts. But that is a way of admitting their mistake, that it was wrong to put the round about in such a busy intersection.

In Britain at a roundabout you have to give way to the traffic that is already in the roundabout, the traffic in the roundabout has the right of way. Which means that if you have got a busy road to the right of you, you are sunk, there is a never ending stream of traffic from the right hand side. That will result in a long line up at your point in the roundabout.

At the traffic light, everybody gets a chance. At a roundabout you have to wait for the traffic to ease up on your right hand side.

lmao

at a roundabout you have to give way to the traffic that is already in the roundabout

the traffic in the roundabout has the right of way

if you have got a busy road to the right of you

there is a never ending stream of traffic from the right hand side

At a roundabout you have to wait for the traffic to ease up on your right hand side

And the Minister of the Department of Redundancy Department for Redundancy speaks up.

 

[TenPenny]

Have you been to Britain? Have you seen the long lines, traffic pile ups at the roundabouts? To relieve the traffic jams, sometimes they put traffic lights right in the roundabouts. But that is a way of admitting their mistake, that it was wrong to put the round about in such a busy intersection.

In Britain at a roundabout you have to give way to the traffic that is already in the roundabout, the traffic in the roundabout has the right of way. Which means that if you have got a busy road to the right of you, you are sunk, there is a never ending stream of traffic from the right hand side. That will result in a long line up at your point in the roundabout.

At the traffic light, everybody gets a chance. At a roundabout you have to wait for the traffic to ease up on your right hand side.

Have I been to Britain?

Yes I have.

Have you read any books on traffic engineering?
Roundabouts, when properly designed, are more efficient than traffic lights.