Gov-Gen doesn't visit hockey teams or gun clubs

FiveParadox

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But really folks, we all know she's useless.

Oh, of course...

She only carries out constant engagements, non-stop, for the strengthening of Canada, the preservation and promotion of Canadian diversity and culture, and the celebration of excellence, and the maintenance of the constitutional powers needed for the guarantee of democratic government — yup, useless. (I hope that the sarcasm on ‘useless’ is detected.) The anti-monarchist crowd is quite prepared to drag anyone through the mud, as needed, to depose The Queen — oh, how evil and sinister Her Majesty is!
 
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AnnaG

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Oh, of course...

She only carries out constant engagements, non-stop, for the strengthening of Canada, the preservation and promotion of Canadian diversity and culture, and the celebration of excellence, and the maintenance of the constitutional powers needed for the guarantee of democratic government — yup, useless. (I hope that the sarcasm on ‘useless’ is detected.) The anti-monarchist crowd is quite prepared to drag anyone through the mud, as needed, to depose The Queen — oh, how evil and sinister Her Majesty is!
Yeah, it's tough all that partying, but someone has to do it. Celebration of excellence? What excellence? What democratic gov't? We have an oligarchy.
QE2 isn't evil, just generally a bit of fluff, is all.
 

dumpthemonarchy

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Oh, of course...
She only carries out constant engagements, non-stop, for the strengthening of Canada, the preservation and promotion of Canadian diversity and culture, and the celebration of excellence, and the maintenance of the constitutional powers needed for the guarantee of democratic government — yup, useless. (I hope that the sarcasm on ‘useless’ is detected.) The anti-monarchist crowd is quite prepared to drag anyone through the mud, as needed, to depose The Queen — oh, how evil and sinister Her Majesty is!

A monarch has majesty when the illiterate unwashed believe their king or queen has some kind of pipeline to a g/God. A sense of mystery and power exist here. Meanwhile to their personal servants and other aristocrats they are nothing special.

Some Canadians do not constantly engage in dainty engagements and they are not represented by this GG. If Canadian culture is as diverse as you say, she obviously must diversity her activities. She doesn't, so, it's time to dump her.
 

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When the pomp and circumstance are a part of Canadian heritage, I hope that Canadians absolutely cherish it — for example, the entire ceremony that opens the Parliament of Canada is fantastic, and it is something Canadian. We must absolutely protect these traditions and ceremonies, so that we don’t forget the meaning behind them (and these meanings help to shape our government, our institutions and our people). With the relatively low cost of having a Governor General representative of a shared monarchy (compared with the cost of a presidential head of State), I think that we have a smart system — and I don’t see why we can’t enjoy the bit of dramatic ceremony that goes with it.

Complete waste of time and Canadian taxpayers money. The monarchy its self is a national embarrassment. Since the GG is England's rep here they should be footing the bill not us. Anna is right, GGs never mingle with ordinary Canadians. Artsy fartsy stuff sure but I bet you would never find here at a stock car race or a fishing derby either.
 

dumpthemonarchy

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Canadians chrish pomp and ceremony? Doesn't that guy from Alberta on Dragon's Den always like to wear jeans? We're a pretty casual bunch and our govt should reflect this too with the GG going to a fishing derby and then a barbeque. Why we piss away millions on the GG is beyond me.
 

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She very much did mingle with ordinary folk at the Acadian World Congress in NB this past August. I was not impressed when PM Martin chose her and she kinda wimped out on the prorogation in January but over all she has done a credible job. I was very impressed when she donned a Naval uniform for the presentation of new colours to the RCN. It has been a while since we had a Commander in Chief wear a uniform.
 

FiveParadox

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Re: Office of the Secretary to the Governor General

Yeah, it's tough all that partying, but someone has to do it.
I wouldn’t consider the sorts of engagements that the Governor General carries out as “partying”. There is a tremendous value to be placed on the preservation and promotion of Canadian culture, and the position of Governor General (such as it is placed above the partisanship of the day) is uniquely capable of performing that function with more legitimacy than it would by, say, a prime minister or elected representative.

Celebration of excellence? What excellence?
The Governor General is the Chancellor and Principal Companion of the Order of Canada (an Order which recognises excellence amongst Canadians); Her Excellency is also the Chancellor and Commander of the Order of Military Merit (which recognises excellence amongst members of the Canadian Forces), and the Order of Merit of the Police Forces (which, as can be surmised, recognises excellence within the police forces). Then there’s the Governor General’s Caring Canadian Award, too.

What democratic gov't? We have an oligarchy.
What an odd statement.

We have a representative parliamentary democracy as a constitutional monarchy, with Her Majesty’s Government for Canada responsible to our elected House of Commons representatives. Our elected representatives decide the legislative agenda of the day, and whether or not the Government has the mandate and the democratic authority to govern — that sounds as though we have a democracy.

QE2 isn't evil, just generally a bit of fluff, is all.
Give me an hour or two, and I can post a review of The Queen’s activities on a day-to-day basis; many Canadians simply aren’t aware of the activities of the head of State, both de jure and de facto. The Queen’s schedule of engagements supports each of the sixteen Realms of the Commonwealth, and besides — the emergency powers vested in The Queen by the Constitution Act, 1867 are absolutely reason enough to hold onto the system of constitutional monarchy. These powers would not have the same meaning or non-partisanship, were they possessed by an elected head of State.

A monarch has majesty when the illiterate unwashed believe their king or queen has some kind of pipeline to a g/God. A sense of mystery and power exist here. Meanwhile to their personal servants and other aristocrats they are nothing special.
It is not a sense of ‘mystery and power’ — it is a sense of respect for the monarch of the nation (and of many of our global neighbours), and a sense of appreciation for the tremendously advantageous constitutional role that Her Majesty holds for Canada. It provides for a better system of government than we could hope for under any other arrangement, and that is one of the best reasons to keep the constitutional monarchy system over other proposals.

Some Canadians do not constantly engage in dainty engagements and they are not represented by this GG. If Canadian culture is as diverse as you say, she obviously must diversity her activities. She doesn't, so, it's time to dump her.
The confused and twisted logic here is sensational! “The Governor General doesn’t watch enough hockey, she must go!” Each one of the Governor General’s engagements has a value for the development of Canada and for Canadians; to suggest that Her Excellency should be dismissed because the OSGG hasn’t penned in a few hockey engagements is insane. Her Excellency’s activities as our representative of The Queen have been diverse and admirable. You’re clearly grasping at straws to discredit the Governor General and the monarchy.

Complete waste of time and Canadian taxpayers money. The monarchy its self is a national embarrassment. Since the GG is England's rep here they should be footing the bill not us. Anna is right, GGs never mingle with ordinary Canadians. Artsy fartsy stuff sure but I bet you would never find here at a stock car race or a fishing derby either.
Her Excellency the Governor General started Citizen Voices.ca, a Web site that connects the Governor General to everyday Canadians. Her Excellency is the only Governor General, ever, to have question and answer sessions with Canadians on a public forum — the accusation that the Governor General does not ‘mingle with ordinary Canadians’ is blown out of the water. Also, it should be noted that the Office of the Secretary to the Governor General is constantly working to reduce the costs of the OSGG; also, the costs of the Governor General’s program are far less than any comparable president as head of State.

Canadians chrish pomp and ceremony? Doesn't that guy from Alberta on Dragon's Den always like to wear jeans? We're a pretty casual bunch and our govt should reflect this too with the GG going to a fishing derby and then a barbeque. Why we piss away millions on the GG is beyond me.
The Governor General’s program is a bargain, compared to other systems. The pomp, circumstance and ceremony are a window into our past and a reminder of parliamentary and constitutional principles that should never be forgotten. I’m in shock that you would attempt to pull a Dragon’s Den reference as any sort of proof against the merits of the Governor General; it’s perhaps one of the most confused arguments I’ve ever heard. It’s sad that you have such vitriol and hatred for any Canadian heritage or history, dumpthemonarchy. Maybe you should just start up a petition for de-Confederation entirely, for all of the value that you seem to give it.

She very much did mingle with ordinary folk at the Acadian World Congress in NB this past August. I was not impressed when PM Martin chose her and she kinda wimped out on the prorogation in January but over all she has done a credible job. I was very impressed when she donned a Naval uniform for the presentation of new colours to the RCN. It has been a while since we had a Commander in Chief wear a uniform.
Hear, hear!
 

Machjo

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Now I do have a question about the GG:

In the following video, is it that she can't fully handle her booze or is it that she's a good actress when it comes to pretending to being drunk? I ask because on one occasion she struggles to pronounce the word 'Canada', but elsewhere she proves herself to be quite articulate, though she certainly does not appear shy in the least:

YouTube - Michaelle Jean: "Ce soir, je fais une folle de moi"
 

FiveParadox

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:lol::lol::lol: That was a Press Gallery dinner, Machjo — that’s where governors general, prime ministers, and other people in public life have traditionally made fun of and parodied themselves. This is why I’m glad to hear that this year’s Press Gallery dinner is coming back to Parliament Hill!
 

dumpthemonarchy

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The problem with yuppies is that they work in clean information businesses. So the GG, bring a yuppie, can't do anything to get her hands dirty. Sure she ate seal, with her hands, but eating takes no skill.

How about going to a quilting bee and doing some sewing. Women like to make quilts still by hand and this takes skill. Time to get these people off their high horse. Or, how about fishing?