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[Niflmir]

You can call me whatever your little heart desires, it really doesn't mean anything. I have already stated that rape and incest be left out of the equation as abortions preformed for those reasons are very miniscule in the big scheme of things. I am just talking about abortions preformed outside of rape and incest.

You do seem to have an abnormal interest in rape though, I wonder why that is.

You want to leave abortion out of the equation for no other reason than it doesn't fit into your opinion. You are hypocrite. You are the very definition of a hypocrite.

When something doesn't fit into your world you act like it doesn't exist. I imagine you solve all your problems like that, sweep it under the rug.

This is a very important question: is it still murder if the woman was raped? It is a fundamental question to your opinion that you can't just sweep aside.

 

[AnnaG]

I heard that Shoppers Drug Mart is going to offer abortion clinics in select stores in the coming year.

I'm switching to a local outfit then. I don't think the answer is in catering to whomever can form a lobby. I think the answer is education of the ignorant. I bet the vast majority of women would think again about having an abortion if they had any idea of how it would affect them physically, emotionally, and mentally and if they had any idea of the medical end of it..

 

[AnnaG]

WAKEY WAKEY HANDS OFF SNAKEY!!!

One more time and I will keep repeating this until it sinks in.

The reason abortions are legal is the very reason you are an unwitting slave. Until you register your baby it is a human after that point it becomes a PERSON which is a legal entity known as a corporation and is only then afforded rights and duties.

Babies even if born who are yet to be registered are not PERSONS and have no rights.

Someone give Petros a shake, or reboot him. I think he's stuck.

 

[gerryh]

Sorry, I think Andem makes the rules here, not you.

I'm not making any forum rules. so how about you explain the above comment.

Because rapes in Canada exceed those of the States (per capita)? Because we think it is an inexcusable and despicable act? Lots of reasons.
If we don't like something, that means we should ignore it? What about drug addiction. Vehicular deaths? Drownings?

We are talking about abortion, you want to talk about rape, start another thread. Since incest and rape are the most common reason for allowing abortion, and the most common argument for abortion when the pro abrtionists can't come up with a viable argument in support of killing baby's, I took that out of the equation. Basically, fine, abortion allowed for incest and rape, now come up with a new argument to support the murder of babies.

 

[gerryh]

You want to leave abortion out of the equation for no other reason than it doesn't fit into your opinion. You are hypocrite. You are the very definition of a hypocrite.

When something doesn't fit into your world you act like it doesn't exist. I imagine you solve all your problems like that, sweep it under the rug.

This is a very important question: is it still murder if the woman was raped? It is a fundamental question to your opinion that you can't just sweep aside.

and this is the 3rd time I have said it. Allow abortions for rape and incest. Now, can we get beyond that?

 

[AnnaG]

I'm not making any forum rules. so how about you explain the above comment.

You stated that we weren't to talk about rape and incest. I simply don't think anyone wants to follow your rule.

We are talking about abortion, you want to talk about rape, start another thread. Since incest and rape are the most common reason for allowing abortion, and the most common argument for abortion when the pro abrtionists can't come up with a viable argument in support of killing baby's, I took that out of the equation. Basically, fine, abortion allowed for incest and rape, now come up with a new argument to support the murder of babies.

Nope. Someone mentioned rape, you included, and it looks like people want to discuss it in terms of abortion.

 

[Niflmir]

I'm switching to a local outfit then. I don't think the answer is in catering to whomever can form a lobby. I think the answer is education of the ignorant. I bet the vast majority of women would think again about having an abortion if they had any idea of how it would affect them physically, emotionally, and mentally and if they had any idea of the medical end of it..

In fact it is a very difficult decision for a woman to go through. Most women understand these issues and weigh them against all sorts of things. It is not an easy decision that is gone through with on a whim.

 

[gerryh]

so, the only argument you have in support of abortion is rape..... is that correct?

 

[AnnaG]

and this is the 3rd time I have said it. Allow abortions for rape and incest. Now, can we get beyond that?

Nope. That's the 3 time you've stated we weren't to talk about rape and incest. I didn't read anywhere about you accepting abortion for those reasons.

 

[Niflmir]

and this is the 3rd time I have said it. Allow abortions for rape and incest. Now, can we get beyond that?

And how do you decide? The rape has to be tried in court first, and then the court can approve the abortion after the birth?

 

[Niflmir]

so, the only argument you have in support of abortion is rape..... is that correct?

The burden of proof is on you, Gerry. You must prove that there is some wrong.

 

[gerryh]

In fact it is a very difficult decision for a woman to go through. Most women understand these issues and weigh them against all sorts of things. It is not an easy decision that is gone through with on a whim.

The desision on whether she wanted to be pregnant or not should have been made when she spread her legs, not after the fact. If she hadn't decided to have sex, she wouldn't have gotten pregnant and she wouldn't be killing a baby.

 

[gerryh]

The burden of proof is on you, Gerry. You must prove that there is some wrong.

Killing a baby is wrong, at least to most people.

 

[AnnaG]

In fact it is a very difficult decision for a woman to go through. Most women understand these issues and weigh them against all sorts of things. It is not an easy decision that is gone through with on a whim.

I don't know about most. I think it is an extremely confusing time for women and especially if they have doctors, lawyers, priests, family, friends, hormones, etc. all nattering at them at the same time.

 

[DurkaDurka]

You get optimum points?

Double optimum points. :smile:

 

[AnnaG]

so, the only argument you have in support of abortion is rape..... is that correct?

You posting to me?
I gave the reasons I would consider abortion.

 

[DurkaDurka]

I'm switching to a local outfit then. I don't think the answer is in catering to whomever can form a lobby. I think the answer is education of the ignorant. I bet the vast majority of women would think again about having an abortion if they had any idea of how it would affect them physically, emotionally, and mentally and if they had any idea of the medical end of it..

You believed me, wow. :-?

 

[AnnaG]

The desision on whether she wanted to be pregnant or not should have been made when she spread her legs, not after the fact. If she hadn't decided to have sex, she wouldn't have gotten pregnant and she wouldn't be killing a baby.

Sometimes there are post-coital, post-gestation, etc. reasons. IOW, medical complications.

 

[gerryh]

And how do you decide? The rape has to be tried in court first, and then the court can approve the abortion after the birth?

Ya know what, I have tried to be ice by softening my view and giving you instances of rape and incest. It appears you are stuck on this, so, I retract my offer.

Any abortion is murder. The child that is being killed had nothing to do with the sexual conduct of iether the father or mother. The killing of the child for the sins of the father is an archaic and barbaric practice.

 

[AnnaG]

And how do you decide? The rape has to be tried in court first, and then the court can approve the abortion after the birth?

Tough call. I am glad I don't have to make it.