In another thread I noticed that old oft repeated chestnut about foreign immigrants.
The main thrust of it is the generalization that Taxicabs, Seven-Eleven's and Pizza delivery joints in Canada are primarily staffed by immigrant Nuclear Physicists and Physicians.
Is it true?
Not really in my opinion.
Lets take a hypothetical medical doctor from India for example.
These Indian doctors obviously have access to the internet and know how to network.
Hospital contacts, fellow doctors, friends who are in medical practice, old Prof's and so on are all part of the available knowledge base long before they decide come to Canada as an immigrant.
And prior Indian immigrant doctors consist of a large group of highly respected Doctors,Specialists, University Department Heads and Professors in some of the top-ranked Universities and teaching hospitals in North America.
And again that's just part of the network that these new immigrant doctors can tap into.
These foreign doctors know what the Canadian College of Surgeons guidelines are.
They know what the pay scales in Canada are.
They know what jobs are available.
They they know how their home Universities rate in Canada.
And they know a heck of a lot more about the Canadian Medical system than the average Canadian and that's long before they get here.
So lets say you come from a really good school like the All India Institute in Dehli.
Lets say you intern at the Apollo or Hinduja National Hospitals.
Your golden.
Any University or Hospital in North America will jump to take you as long as your references and grades are top notch.
You just need to work the system and play by the Canadian or American medical establishment rules.
How about if you come from a small, middle of the road local Indian medical school?
Get mediocre grades and intern in a small, unknown rural Indian Hospital?
Well it just got a lot tougher to practice medicine in Canada.
The Canadian Medical College is going to refer you to a University Medical School who is going to have to vet your foreign medical diploma.
Since the Canadian Medical school has no idea what the medical curriculum of the school you came from is like they are going to be a tough sell.
And why would Canadian taxpayers be on the hook for researching every curriculum and standing of every small foreign University?
Their not and nor should they be.
So the foreign immigrant has to have good and verifiable references, some contacts that somebody in the Canadian Medical establishment has heard of and very detailed transcripts.
He is going to have to prove everything.
After all that he is probably going to find that his medical degree is not fully recognized in Canada.
He will be expected to successfully challenge some evaluations and probably retake at least a couple of courses.
Then he probably will have to intern again.
How about if the guy took his medical degree from some tiny place in U.P. that nobody ever heard of (even in India) and did his internship in some village clinic?
Keep in mind some of these unknown Universities are degree mills that basically sell degrees with no actual course load.
Well the guy is probably out of luck in the Canadian Medical system.
He could get a year or two credit at a Canadian medical school if his transcripts and references held together.
The rest he would have to redo.
These foreign doctors pretty much know exactly where they stand long before they get here.
And if they have the slightest clue what's going on they have forwarded their transcripts and references to all the teaching hospitals and medical schools in Canada long before they come over.
Its all part of getting plugged into the system.
Same general thing goes with foreign Prof's and other Professionals.
The good ones from respected Institutions are in demand.
The mediocre ones from Institutions and Universities that nobody ever heard of or that have an iffy background....not so much.
Granted some foreign professionals get screwed by the Canadian system.
And indeed the Canadian systems could be made far more fair and efficient in their dealings with foreign professionals.
And some of the Colleges and Boards can be very difficult and perhaps even unreasonable to deal with.
It certainly isn't a perfect set-up.
But better safe than sorry when accrediting foreign immigrant professionals.
And why would Canadian taxpayers be on the hook for all this?
Thus it is critical for foreign professionals to network and get hooked into the Canadian or American systems before they immigrate.
They have to play the game exactly the way the peer groups over here dictate in order to be accepted.
But they all know that already.
At least that's how I sorta think the system works.
Trex
The main thrust of it is the generalization that Taxicabs, Seven-Eleven's and Pizza delivery joints in Canada are primarily staffed by immigrant Nuclear Physicists and Physicians.
Is it true?
Not really in my opinion.
Lets take a hypothetical medical doctor from India for example.
These Indian doctors obviously have access to the internet and know how to network.
Hospital contacts, fellow doctors, friends who are in medical practice, old Prof's and so on are all part of the available knowledge base long before they decide come to Canada as an immigrant.
And prior Indian immigrant doctors consist of a large group of highly respected Doctors,Specialists, University Department Heads and Professors in some of the top-ranked Universities and teaching hospitals in North America.
And again that's just part of the network that these new immigrant doctors can tap into.
These foreign doctors know what the Canadian College of Surgeons guidelines are.
They know what the pay scales in Canada are.
They know what jobs are available.
They they know how their home Universities rate in Canada.
And they know a heck of a lot more about the Canadian Medical system than the average Canadian and that's long before they get here.
So lets say you come from a really good school like the All India Institute in Dehli.
Lets say you intern at the Apollo or Hinduja National Hospitals.
Your golden.
Any University or Hospital in North America will jump to take you as long as your references and grades are top notch.
You just need to work the system and play by the Canadian or American medical establishment rules.
How about if you come from a small, middle of the road local Indian medical school?
Get mediocre grades and intern in a small, unknown rural Indian Hospital?
Well it just got a lot tougher to practice medicine in Canada.
The Canadian Medical College is going to refer you to a University Medical School who is going to have to vet your foreign medical diploma.
Since the Canadian Medical school has no idea what the medical curriculum of the school you came from is like they are going to be a tough sell.
And why would Canadian taxpayers be on the hook for researching every curriculum and standing of every small foreign University?
Their not and nor should they be.
So the foreign immigrant has to have good and verifiable references, some contacts that somebody in the Canadian Medical establishment has heard of and very detailed transcripts.
He is going to have to prove everything.
After all that he is probably going to find that his medical degree is not fully recognized in Canada.
He will be expected to successfully challenge some evaluations and probably retake at least a couple of courses.
Then he probably will have to intern again.
How about if the guy took his medical degree from some tiny place in U.P. that nobody ever heard of (even in India) and did his internship in some village clinic?
Keep in mind some of these unknown Universities are degree mills that basically sell degrees with no actual course load.
Well the guy is probably out of luck in the Canadian Medical system.
He could get a year or two credit at a Canadian medical school if his transcripts and references held together.
The rest he would have to redo.
These foreign doctors pretty much know exactly where they stand long before they get here.
And if they have the slightest clue what's going on they have forwarded their transcripts and references to all the teaching hospitals and medical schools in Canada long before they come over.
Its all part of getting plugged into the system.
Same general thing goes with foreign Prof's and other Professionals.
The good ones from respected Institutions are in demand.
The mediocre ones from Institutions and Universities that nobody ever heard of or that have an iffy background....not so much.
Granted some foreign professionals get screwed by the Canadian system.
And indeed the Canadian systems could be made far more fair and efficient in their dealings with foreign professionals.
And some of the Colleges and Boards can be very difficult and perhaps even unreasonable to deal with.
It certainly isn't a perfect set-up.
But better safe than sorry when accrediting foreign immigrant professionals.
And why would Canadian taxpayers be on the hook for all this?
Thus it is critical for foreign professionals to network and get hooked into the Canadian or American systems before they immigrate.
They have to play the game exactly the way the peer groups over here dictate in order to be accepted.
But they all know that already.
At least that's how I sorta think the system works.
Trex
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