Philosophical motivation to love God.

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petros

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I see no sign of his presence, past or present, and I've never seen anything offered in support of his existence that cannot be explained by much more prosaic means.
We only see some 80% of the spectrum of light.

If you were the "light of the world" the best place to hide would be in the light. maybe god is in the UV or IR ranges?
 

Cliffy

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Alley,

If god created Earth and us, would he not be rather POed at what we have done to his creation? Do you think that just because you believe in what is written in a book that you know nothing about (its origins, its history) that it really has any validity for the rest of mankind? What exactly is your belief based on? Personal experience with the divine? To anybody who knows the origin and history of the bible, it is just a bunch of stuff written by men who wanted to control everybody else.
 

Cliffy

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Agreed.

Good folks will tell you "the only truth we know about God is: we don't know ANYTHING at all." or "if God exists he's distant and unknowable." etc. I contend that if God created the entire universe, including earth and us, would he not care about his creation, much like how a painter cares for his masterpiece? [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]:cool:
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And I contend that what you call god is the universe because nothing can be created out of nothing. Oh ya! I forgot. He can create anything out of nothing because he is god. That would require him to break the laws of physics that he created. Not too logical, but then, blind faith never is. Your proofs of god seem more like the rantings of a child who refuses to accept that the easter bunny is a commercial and not real.
 

karrie

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I disagree I suppose.

I don't think any philosophy can motivate us to love anyone or anything. The notion that we love because we are told to love is flawed, as is the idea that we love because we are told someone loves us.

I think if a person has love , that is where it was born, that is where it originated, with that person. It is theirs, and theirs alone. Not born of some philosophy, not scripted, not explained in simple terms of cause and effect.
 

L Gilbert

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We only see some 80% of the spectrum of light.

If you were the "light of the world" the best place to hide would be in the light. maybe god is in the UV or IR ranges?
We do have optical and radio telescopes which do observe things in more than just those humanly observable spectrums, you know. Unless this "god" quits morphing its shape all the time and changing wavelengths and all kinds of other stuff it may be doing, we will continue to miss it. :D
As we have said many times, there is no available evidence for its existence. And the disbelief for it is compounded by the variety and scope of claims for its existence.
 

L Gilbert

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And I contend that what you call god is the universe because nothing can be created out of nothing. Oh ya! I forgot. He can create anything out of nothing because he is god. That would require him to break the laws of physics that he created. Not too logical, but then, blind faith never is. Your proofs of god seem more like the rantings of a child who refuses to accept that the easter bunny is a commercial and not real.
Not only that, it'd have to create itself first before anything else. lmao Nothing is exactly that, nothing.
 

L Gilbert

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I disagree I suppose.

I don't think any philosophy can motivate us to love anyone or anything. The notion that we love because we are told to love is flawed, as is the idea that we love because we are told someone loves us.

I think if a person has love , that is where it was born, that is where it originated, with that person. It is theirs, and theirs alone. Not born of some philosophy, not scripted, not explained in simple terms of cause and effect.
Cute and smart, too. :D
 

Cliffy

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I disagree I suppose.

I don't think any philosophy can motivate us to love anyone or anything. The notion that we love because we are told to love is flawed, as is the idea that we love because we are told someone loves us.

I think if a person has love , that is where it was born, that is where it originated, with that person. It is theirs, and theirs alone. Not born of some philosophy, not scripted, not explained in simple terms of cause and effect.

Where does love come from? What is it? What is the universe made of? What is the foundation of all that is? Energy. Creative energy, to be more precise and that energy can be said to be love (as in god is love). So I believe that to be in love, is to feel the connection that we all have to the source - god/universe/love/creative energy.

Most don't feel that because they have been taught that we were born in sin (disconnected from g.o.d.). We are taught that there is a shortage of love and that it has to be earned or you have to qualify for your share (believe in this or that dogma). But the universe is infinite and so is the energy that sustains it, underlies it, creates it. Therefore, it is only in our minds (as conditioned as they are by society) that keeps us separate from the source. To feel reconnected we would have to realize that we are worthy first and do not need anybody's approval.

Being in love is knowing you are love, a part of it, the source of it.
 

Dexter Sinister

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We only see some 80% of the spectrum of light.
It's a good deal less than that, closer to 3%, or 0.00000000000005%, depending on whether you compute it by orders of magnitude or actual wavelengths. We see a narrow band of radiation with wavelengths of about 350 to 750 billionths of a meter, and not coincidentally it's the wavelengths the atmosphere is most transparent to that conveniently sized biological detectors can be made for. Evolution at work..how'd you like to have eyes the size of a radio telescope dish? Gamma ray wavelengths are on the order of 10 trillionths of a meter, and long radio waves can be thousands of meters long. Detectable wavelengths range over at least 15 orders of magnitude, we can see less than half of one order of magnitude (that's where the 3% figure came from). Some critters can see into the infrared a bit and some can see into the ultraviolet a bit, like certain insects. Flowers look very different to pollinating insects than they do to us, but in terms of the entire spectrum's bandwidth they don't see much more than we do.
 

petros

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Lux is more than just soap. Yup. Light is damn handy tool these days. Saves a lot of counting while squinting and it can smell what you're cooking and damn handy for measurements.
 

petros

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Never crapped my pants due to cherry consumption. Spent a quarter century with 3 women in the home and I had different problems than making smelly pants. lol
(Gawd she's got pointy elbows)
So then cherries make your ribs hurt? Cherries and popcorn must make them bleed.