That isn't the issue anyway, but people couldn't let go of the whole test thing, that's what happens when you have tunnel vision =/
Why Catholic isn't Christian.
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You can read every one of my posts on this message board and find no such claim. I've always been perfectly clear about that, I was raised Christian and abandoned it as an adult when I found it consisted mostly of false promises and exaggerated claims and had no bearing on any reality I could comprehend. Go back a couple of pages yourself and show us where I passed myself off as a Christian.
"Damn right it was urgent, and according to everything I'd been told by parents and pastors and friends, and according to everything I understood about these matters at the time, I did everything it's humanly possible to do."
You also said you were apostate, that means you once believed, so now you're claming you didnt, which is it?
You also said you were apostate, that means you once believed, so now you're claming you didnt, which is it?
God made it downpour so i could waste my day hassling the ghost believers.
Thank you Jesus...
Thank you Jesus...
Having a little trouble with your reading comprehension, I see. I did believe once, a long time ago, I don't anymore, I've never told it any other way. That simple enough for you?
If you truely believed once, you were once christian, and the whole post was in reference to that time not the present and I never said you were presently did I? Either way it is a non-issue because it is obvious that you never did truely follow Christ in the way He commands so it is fairly clear why you did not recieve any help from God.
I don't believe in that word 'command', it applies to the military, slave owners, dictators, militant leaders, and if you tack it onto your god, then you have no
thought of your own, you obey his commands, not a good way to parent or lead anyone.
I would never buy into such a way of life, I do not answer to commands, nor does
anyone in my family, we make our own way in life, not commanded by anyone or
anything, but a clean and thoughtful path and supported way of life, by all of us
for each other, and those we know.
thought of your own, you obey his commands, not a good way to parent or lead anyone.
I would never buy into such a way of life, I do not answer to commands, nor does
anyone in my family, we make our own way in life, not commanded by anyone or
anything, but a clean and thoughtful path and supported way of life, by all of us
for each other, and those we know.
I am indeed a servant or slave as you would to Jesus, he is my Lord. I have many thoughts of my own, but in regard to morality I obey him to the best of my ability and with his aid. I trust his judgement over mine, what is mans wisdom in compared to God? If you think you know better than he who made everything you're fooling only yourself.
Also as I stated above pride is what is leading most people to eternal seperation from Him and unless you learn to humble yourself before God you're only hurting yourself.
One can only speak for their own lives, not others. Each person must make their
own way in life, and if he/she is a believer that is fine for them, but for others
like myself, we must be free to follow our own path, and we do not need to
humble ourselves before any god, and we are not hurting ourselves, that would
only be correct, if we forced ourselves to go a way we do not choose.
I wish all believers a great life, but I will not accept statements from any of
'them' as to how to live my life, that is not appropriate.
That is a good philosophy if God does not exist, however if he does then you're still correct that it is your choice, but it will be one you will not be happy with in the end. I am not here to force you into anything, however it is my duty to inform you of the truth, what you do with it is up to you.
It is your duty to carry out your own life as you see fit, as you notice I am not taking a position of telling 'you' how you should live your life, so you shouldn't
be doing that either, I am very aware of the life of a believer, I was a catholic
attending catholic school as a child, then chose to walk away at a later age,
and I have never been sorry for that decision.
Each one of us is the only true authority in our lives. Those who need others to have authority over them or to lord over them, lack self esteem and self confidence. Some people cannot stand on their own two feet. That is OK. Some of us may have to carry them from time to time.
Yes you did: "He initially passed himself off as a christian, go back a couple pages." You lie.
Initially, as during the time period being discussed, the time when I said God was probably testing you. The time that your cousin died. Which was exactly what the whole problem was in the first place. If I thought you were a christian now I wouldnt even be having this discussion with you would I? Your logic is flawed my friend and now you've resorted to being petty and argueing semantics, not that it suprises me, but in either case you're trying to derail the real issue and as such we're done here, unless you want to get back to the important topic.
You were shown by others aswell as myself that there is a way to know God, you said you tried that way but it is very obvious that you did no such thing with any semblance of what God requires. You can choose to disobey him and pretend that it is disbelief, or maybe it is genuine disbelief based on false facts you were fed by your parents/pastors etc... but in either case if you don't seek the truth in the way God demands that is on you in the end and you probably do not care, but as stated above, you no longer have any excuse when you stand before Him.
I like you fought against the Lord for all of my life until 1.5 years ago and had the same blinders on that you currently wear. I just hope that one day God will open your eyes to the truth and you will be redeemed so we can meet in heaven and praise God together for showing us the light.
You were shown by others aswell as myself that there is a way to know God, you said you tried that way but it is very obvious that you did no such thing with any semblance of what God requires. You can choose to disobey him and pretend that it is disbelief, or maybe it is genuine disbelief based on false facts you were fed by your parents/pastors etc... but in either case if you don't seek the truth in the way God demands that is on you in the end and you probably do not care, but as stated above, you no longer have any excuse when you stand before Him.
I like you fought against the Lord for all of my life until 1.5 years ago and had the same blinders on that you currently wear. I just hope that one day God will open your eyes to the truth and you will be redeemed so we can meet in heaven and praise God together for showing us the light.
Ah! That explains everything... a recent convert. They are the most obnoxious of them all, self righteous, arrogant and sanctimonious. I should know. there was a time I was too but I found out, not only was I wrong, I had become a dick head, so I try not to be anymore.
Just thought you would like to know, it is not about your beliefs but about your personality.
Just thought you would like to know, it is not about your beliefs but about your personality.
"They are the most obnoxious of them all, self righteous, arrogant and sanctimonious." You keep using these words, as if they are somehow insulting to me. You say I am self righteous but I already explained above how there was nothing self about it, either you have trouble reading or just decide to ignore, either way it does not matter. As for being Sanctimonious you used this term after I had stated I was sanctified by the blood of Christ, so I am assuming you thought it would sound good but you obviously do not know the meaning. If you can show me how I am not devoted to my God and I am just pretending please by all means do so.
Now I stated that I was not going to argue with people like you who are just trying to start a fight and I am still not going to, the only reason I am responding to you at all right now is because you keep posting these things even though I have not responded to any of your other messages and so you know you are going on the ignore list as soon as this message is typed up. So enjoy insulting me behind my back, have fun! =)
Dex seems intelligent enough and atleast he seems open enough for some debate, you on the other hand are a trouble maker an are not worth the effort.
"Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and then turn and tear you to pieces.(Matthew 7:6)
Now I stated that I was not going to argue with people like you who are just trying to start a fight and I am still not going to, the only reason I am responding to you at all right now is because you keep posting these things even though I have not responded to any of your other messages and so you know you are going on the ignore list as soon as this message is typed up. So enjoy insulting me behind my back, have fun! =)
Dex seems intelligent enough and atleast he seems open enough for some debate, you on the other hand are a trouble maker an are not worth the effort.
"Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and then turn and tear you to pieces.(Matthew 7:6)