Whats with all the excitement/paranoia ...

[L Gilbert]

BBC NEWS | Asia-Pacific | Profile: Kim Jong-il

This is just sick:

Asia Times Online :: Korea News and Korean Business and Economy, Pyongyang News

Had anyone threatened N.K.? If not, why arbitrarily develop as much military as you could?

News From KOREAN CENTRAL NEWS AGENCY of DPRK

 

[Scott Free]

Chances are, if the US, China and Russia are all on the same page, it ain't yankee propaganda. I understand how this little snippit of fact gives some folks trouble.

So as proof you submit that Russia and China view NK as a threat therefore it must be a real threat and not just propaganda.

So this also means that since Russia and China see the USA as a threat it too must be a threat and not just propaganda.

Nicely done.

But both Russia and China see the USA as the greatest threat and given the Americans propensity for endless war this view is well warranted.

Therefore disarming the USA, which is the greater threat, should also be the greater priority.

No matter how you feel about NK and its leader the Americans are much more war like and therefore are the greater risk.

 

[Cannuck]

So as proof you submit that Russia and China view NK as a threat therefore it must be a real threat and not just propaganda.

Yankee propaganda. I thought that was pretty clear....let me check....yup, that's what I said.

No matter how you feel about the US and its leader the North Koreans are the issue...as much as it pains folks like you.

I wonder how long it will be before Israel starts getting some of the blame for this?

 

[Cliffy]

Kim Jung Il is a nut case, there is not much to argue there... that isn't US propaganda.

So he is a nut case. (I know a lot of harmless nut cases right here in Nakusp.) Does that make him dangerous? There is an exclusive club of deranged psychopaths who have nukes and they don't want anybody else to have that kind of brutal leverage. If any of these bozos can have nukes then everybody should have nukes. But no, only those who are approved Yanky butt kissers can have nukes. And don't give me the nonsense that China is not kissing butt because right now the Chinese practically own the US's butt.

I'm with Scott on this one. The US is the most aggressive and dangerous nation out there and this stuff about Kim is a diversionary tactic to keep attention off the real danger.

 

[Cannuck]

So he is a nut case. (I know a lot of harmless nut cases right here in Nakusp.) Does that make him dangerous?

Um....he has nukes so yes.

There is an exclusive club of deranged psychopaths who have nukes and they don't want anybody else to have that kind of brutal leverage. If any of these bozos can have nukes then everybody should have nukes. But no, only those who are approved Yanky butt kissers can have nukes.

And don't give me the nonsense that China is not kissing butt because right now the Chinese practically own the US's butt.

..and of course Russia. We all know Putin was Dubya's biatch the last eight years. :roll:

Why don't you guys give it a rest. We get it. You hate the US. This isn't about your blind hatreds.

I'm with Scott on this one. The US is the most aggressive and dangerous nation out there and this stuff about Kim is a diversionary tactic to keep attention off the real danger.

Actually, it's a diversionary tactic to keep peoples attention off of the CIA and their attempts to fly a 747 into the Hollywood sign.

 

[Scott Free]

No matter how you feel about the US and its leader the North Koreans are the issue...as much as it pains folks like you.

The only reason you think this is that you sympathise with them and share their ideology.

The real issue is that people think they have the right to tell others how to live and run their countries.

 

[DurkaDurka]

So he is a nut case. (I know a lot of harmless nut cases right here in Nakusp.) Does that make him dangerous? There is an exclusive club of deranged psychopaths who have nukes and they don't want anybody else to have that kind of brutal leverage. If any of these bozos can have nukes then everybody should have nukes. But no, only those who are approved Yanky butt kissers can have nukes. And don't give me the nonsense that China is not kissing butt because right now the Chinese practically own the US's butt.

I'm with Scott on this one. The US is the most aggressive and dangerous nation out there and this stuff about Kim is a diversionary tactic to keep attention off the real danger.

Besides operating concentration camps, starving his people, launching missles over Japan etc, yeah, he is nuts. Having nukes is not going to bring prestige or power to NK, it will only further their misery as I'm sure there will be more sanactions coming down the line.

So South Korea and Japan's concern shoudln't be worth anything? They should just sit back and allow crazy Kim to destabilize the region? I'm sure you'll come back with a reply to the effect that they are US stooges and are worthy of getting nuked.

 

[petros]

I'm sure there will be more sanactions coming down the line.

Right on! What a great idea, starving the already oppressed killing millions more is far better than 50,000 POTENTIAL dead Japs or Koreans anyday.

 

[DurkaDurka]

Right on! What a great idea, starving the already oppressed killing millions more is far better than 50,000 POTENTIAL dead Japs or Koreans anyday.

It's not my idea, it is reality. Their first nuclear test resulted in only a censure and some meaningless sanctions from the security council. This time I'm sure it will result in a more meaningful punishment.

 

[petros]

It's not my idea, it is reality. Their first nuclear test resulted in only a censure and some meaningless sanctions from the security council. This time I'm sure it will result in a more meaningful punishment.

In reality who is being punished? No Dong Jong Il? Stop them from selling Prada and Rolex knock offs?

The best way to set off a nut job like No Dong Jong and his nukeis to provoke him even further.

Maybe cracking down on jackasses like Bhutto who supply other jackasses would be far better than making millions suffer even more.

 

[Cliffy]

Besides operating concentration camps, starving his people, launching missles over Japan etc, yeah, he is nuts. Having nukes is not going to bring prestige or power to NK, it will only further their misery as I'm sure there will be more sanactions coming down the line.

So South Korea and Japan's concern shoudln't be worth anything? They should just sit back and allow crazy Kim to destabilize the region? I'm sure you'll come back with a reply to the effect that they are US stooges and are worthy of getting nuked.

I thought Japan had nukes. I'm not supporting anybody having nukes especially some little nut job with a Napoleon complex. I just don't believe any propaganda any more, coming from any of the retarded adolescent world leaders. I'm so jaded I think that everything in the media is a conspiracy plotted by psychotic pin heads.

 

[DurkaDurka]

In reality who is being punished? No Dong Jong Il? Stop them from selling Prada and Rolex knock offs?

The best way to set off a nut job like No Dong Jong and his nukeis to provoke him even further.

Maybe cracking down on jackasses like Bhutto who supply other jackasses would be far better than making millions suffer even more.

NK has more or less forced the security council to act though, they defy their resolutions, they have to act else they lose credibility.

Any new sanctions though will probably be mild as China doesn't really want to be complicit in a social crisis in the NK and causing a flood of refugees to cross into Chinese proper.

 

[DurkaDurka]

I thought Japan had nukes. I'm not supporting anybody having nukes especially some little nut job with a Napoleon complex. I just don't believe any propaganda any more, coming from any of the retarded adolescent world leaders. I'm so jaded I think that everything in the media is a conspiracy plotted by psychotic pin heads.

Japan does not have nukes. They have mused about obtaining them though due to the situation with NK.

I hear you, they all lie.

 

[petros]

NK has more or less forced the security council to act though, they defy their resolutions, they have to act else they lose credibility.

Any new sanctions though will probably be mild as China doesn't really want to be complicit in a social crisis in the NK and causing a flood of refugees to cross into Chinese proper.

What makes NATO or NORAD nukes different from North Korean nukes?

 

[DurkaDurka]

What makes NATO or NORAD nukes different from North Korean nukes?

The stability of the governments holding them and their willingness to use them and proliferation of the technology to other countries.

 

[TenPenny]

You know what they say, an armed society is a polite society.

 

[TenPenny]

I thought Japan had nukes.

They did, two of them, about 64 years ago, but they didn't have them for very long.

 

[s_lone]

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[petros]

The stability of the governments holding them and their willingness to use them and proliferation of the technology to other countries.

Is that what they call "peaceful uses of nuclear weapons"? Sorry but they got you on the double speak on that one. There is no such thing as a peaceful use of a weapon.

 

[Cannuck]

The real issue is that people think they have the right to tell others how to live and run their countries.

Is that so? I guess by your comments, you feel it is unacceptable for the UN to make rules that NK must follow. I guess we won't be reading anymore nonsense from you about Israel not adhering to UN resolutions.