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china

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lol Sorry, Machjo. I said that because I thought China would get a chuckle out of it.
Yes , I have , Thank You LG .

He made a thread a while back where in order to truly achieve peace or something (I can't remember exactly)
we would have to strive to become nothing. lol
Now that's funny ;why would one have to strive to become something that one already is .........nothing.
 

darkbeaver

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Natural? Yes. Helpful and good if we're not aware of it? No.

I don't think regionalism or nationalism or religions need to be done away with. What I do think is that we need to be aware of the fact that 'they' are humans. 'They' distrust us for all the same reasons. We're more similar than we are different. Humanity is the largest tribe of all, and sometimes we need a reminder that we can't always hide behind 'them and us'. That attitude is the sort that spawns videos like the one in the 'future of religion' thread, about how Muslims are going to take over the world by breeding like rabbits and overthrow our religious freedom.

To remind ourselves every so often that we need to try to think outside of that mentality is all I'm suggesting.

Then you belong to the tribe or the union or the church that trys to think outside of the tribal metality, it is impossible not to make tribal connections , it is fundementally human. Like any institution it is rife with human problems. There is no escape except consolodation, voluntarily or otherwise. There is this already long established attempt, it has cost the lives of millions. Tribalism is not a problem and niether is a selfimage which is practically impossible to do without in this realm. As long as you are conscience you will have a selfimage, without it you have no frame of referance and you will be effectively lost in space..
 
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Everybody is involved in one form of tribe or another, whether it is a bowling team or political party, religion or sewing circle. Everyone is searching for a sense of community.
 

china

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VanIsle :

Why not! I have no problem with identifying myself as a Canadian and even as a British Columbian. I love my country and my province. That doesn't say that I think my country and my province is better or that much different than any other.
Yeap ,or you could identify yourself as an offspring of mother X and even father X and explain how much you love your mother and father but under no circumstances your mother and father are much different than any other.
I think that's when the problem starts .
 

darkbeaver

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I just wonder why do we have images about ourselves? I think those images separate us. If you have an image of yourself as Canadian ,Polish or British or a Yankee and so on, that image not only distorts your observation of humanity, but it also separates you from others. And wherever there is separation, division, there must be conflict—as there is conflict going on all over the world, the Arab against the Israeli, the Muslim against the Hindu, one Christian church against another. National division and economic division all result from images, concepts, ideas, and the brain clings to these images. Just wonder .....Why?

The images do not separate us they bind us in empathy and compassion though the mistaken will tell you that diversity builds hate and mistrust, someone without image cannot be separated from anything without image you do not exist, your image is your existance. Your next line will be selling the removal of barriers to consolodation of the nations and the cultures into one efficient consumer product know as The New World Order. I have an image of a plastic guru of the new improved jumbo old world religion flogging the efficiencys of human homogenization. Is there a religion that has not barked that exact message while simultaneously manipulating those same inconvienient individualisms. You offer nothing but slavery and ruin if I understand your pitch.
Hey you used one race (Arab) three religions (Christian Muslim & Hindu)and one pseudo-nation (Israel) that makes no sence. So do you understand Israel to be a race or a religion or both? You can't change the image of israel, a master of divison and conflict and image, by begging the removal of barriers erected by Israel, only Israel could do that but it would disappear without the defining divisions, ah so it is just about the others.
 

china

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... someone without image cannot be separated from anything without image you do not exist, your image is your existance.
Just a question : are you conscious of your image ? after all you have build it
very carefully ; why? to exist , to be an individual or you think you will be "smarter" than you really are.