This reality is. The Universe is. There is no explanation why, they just do. But humans are the most improbable of all. No other being is so disconnected from its life support system that it systematically destroys it in the name of progress.
The Improbability of God
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This reality is. The Universe is. There is no explanation why, they just do. But humans are the most improbable of all. No other being is so disconnected from its life support system that it systematically destroys it in the name of progress.
Yes, of all things we could possibility pray to, love, cherish, nurture, feed, treasure, be thankful for, it is our earth, but it seems that people don't 'get it',
they just take advantage of it, like children with parents, with no appreciation
of the value that our earth has, as without it, we wouldn't 'be'.
they just take advantage of it, like children with parents, with no appreciation
of the value that our earth has, as without it, we wouldn't 'be'.
We aren't improbable because we are here. Once something exists it is no longer improbable but becomes probable. It is probable because it exists.. Something which doesn't exist is improbable. Since god probably doesn't exist it (god) is thus improbable, however, since we do exist we are probable. We might not know why we are probable but that doesn't change the odds because here we are. Our understanding will not change whether we exist or not.
It boils down to determination. You could say it was unlikely humans would evolve, yet here we are, therefore it isn't that it was unlikely but rather, it is that we didn't understand how and why we evolved. Our ignorance of a subject does not determine the subject.
All evidence points to this being a deterministic universe. Probability is a function of ignorance. As ignorance diminishes our ability to predict increases. So it isn't correct to say our improbability is the same as gods improbability because here we are. We know we exist we don't know god exists. In fact all evidence suggests very powerfully that it doesn't.
Any animal population will explode and destroy its environment if left unchecked. Its population will increase until the entire population suffers. People are no exception.
Pragmatically speaking what you are describing is the trouble any species has when it has no predators.
My post in philosophy column , long time ago..............
- you Create 100% Of Your Reality And NO ONE CAN CREATE IN YOUR REALITY BUT YOU.
- it's Never About Another Person, Place, Or Thing.
- every Person, Place, Or Thing Is A Mirror And Has The Potential To Be A Gift For You.
- at Any Given Moment, You Either Are Giving Love, Or Asking For Love.
- everything Is God, For God Is All There Is. Therefore, I And You Must Be God, Too.
- Is this probable......or not probable Scott Free ?
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This depends on whether you accept delusion as reality. Deluding yourself of something isn't the same as it being true.
huh?
Everyone recieves information about the world through sensory perception. The brain then builds an interpretation. The brain does this in a predictive way so that we can be fooled. Our brains will think something is real if it expects it to be there. So just because you see something doesn't mean it is there. Just because you believe, think, infer, suspect, hope or wish for something does't mean it is real.
Here is an example: illusion
Love is a chemical reaction created by the body. Sometimes you may be experiencing it and sometimes you may not. Sometimes people mean attachment or need when they talk of love.
This is a pantheist argument and you are thereby substituting god for matter and energy. Essentially your statement is a word game.
There is no denying that we are a product of the universe. If you want to call the universe "god" then you are using a different meaning of god then I do. I understand people to mean god is supernatural i.e. beyond (outside) of nature. You are saying god is the stuff of the universe.
I'm not sure this is what you really mean though and I suspect your playing a word game. So do you think the stuff of the universe answers prayers and cares what you do with your penis?
If you think so then you are actually talking about the traditional meaning of god.
If you don't think so then your talking about energy and calling it god.
I'm not capable of either. How you feel toward me is not dependent on me.
Scott Free
Thanks for the post SF .I'll respond later on .It,s 6pm and I have to take my familly for a dinner to a Chinese restaurant .( I could not resist that ;obviously the restaurants in Qingdao ....are Chinese )
Thanks for the post SF .I'll respond later on .It,s 6pm and I have to take my familly for a dinner to a Chinese restaurant .( I could not resist that ;obviously the restaurants in Qingdao ....are Chinese )
If something doesn't exist then it possesses some degree of improbability of coming into existence or of having ever existed but if something does exist then by way of its existence it is probable. The only way something can seem improbable when it exists is if we don't understand how it came to exist.
Scott Free
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An EGO, the image you have of yourself .
No argument ;just a logical observation .
There is no denying that we are a product of the universe. If you want to call the universe "god" then you are using a different meaning of god then I do. I understand people to mean god is supernatural i.e. beyond (outside) of nature. You are saying god is the stuff of the universe.
I'm not sure this is what you really mean though and I suspect your playing a word game. So do you think the stuff of the universe answers prayers and cares what you do with your penis?
I've never asked before
If you think so then you are actually talking about the traditional meaning of god.
If you don't think so then your talking about energy and calling it god.
Man SF ,you'd never make a good salesman .
Any how thanks for your reply to my post and good night.
Quoting china
from moment to moment.Weather true or delusion reality is a reality to the one who experiences it , 100% reality (though an obsever can be deluded by not being a part of the said reality).- you Create 100% Of Your Reality And No One Can Create In Your Reality But You.
You create 100% of whatever your reality is and you are the only one experiencing it
An EGO, the image you have of yourself .
This above statement is a perfect example of your reality SF.
No argument ;just a logical observation .
There is no denying that we are a product of the universe. If you want to call the universe "god" then you are using a different meaning of god then I do. I understand people to mean god is supernatural i.e. beyond (outside) of nature. You are saying god is the stuff of the universe.
I'm not sure this is what you really mean though and I suspect your playing a word game. So do you think the stuff of the universe answers prayers and cares what you do with your penis?
I've never asked before
If you think so then you are actually talking about the traditional meaning of god.
If you don't think so then your talking about energy and calling it god.
Quoting china ****Are you giving love at this very moment or taking it away?****
I'm not capable of either.
Man SF ,you'd never make a good salesman .
Any how thanks for your reply to my post and good night.
This is particularly funny because, as it turns out, I'm an excellent sales man.
One of the reasons is that I didn't bother trying to persuade people beyond the typical cues. So long as I gave off the proper appearances (i.e. I didn't deliberately or inadvertently put them off) people would buy, that is unless they didn't want to buy, at which point I simply moved on. It actually had nothing to do with me. My job, when I worked in sales, was to identify the people that wanted to be sold to and give into their social prejudices enough so they were able to. As it turns out societies generally share prejudices so there are general rules a person can follow that will induce people to buy.
Another Tiw'sDay or Mars'Day (mardi). Remember Mars, god of war?
Say "Hi" to Indra, the Hindu god of war!
Indra - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Say "Hi" to Indra, the Hindu god of war!
Indra - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
maybe they will name a day after you when they legislate an 8th day to the week reducing the present day by 3hrs to a 21hour day to eliminate 3hrs of wastful sleep.
How does Paladay sound?
How does Paladay sound?