Earth Hour: Turn Off the Lights!

[Tonington]

Anyway my opoint in asking who made the pellets and what was in them was to point out there is insufficient data to make a reasonable postulation as to why the farmed fish go for it and the wild ones don't.

Not really. It's conditioning.

If you start with juvenile fish, and feed them manufactured feeds their whole lives, that's all they know. They still respond to "normal evolutionary" cues in their prey when released into the wild. That is hard-wired genetically. But the pellet is foreign completely to wild fish.

When you bring wild fish into a hatchery for the first time, it's very difficult to get them onto pelleted feeds. It's alien to them. You usually have to feed them chopped up bits of herring or other bait fish, and slowly acclimate them to pellets. Sometimes, it doesn't work at all, and you have sickly fish that won't take a pellet. They end up moribund and eventually culled.

 

[L Gilbert]

Not really. It's conditioning.

If you start with juvenile fish, and feed them manufactured feeds their whole lives, that's all they know. They still respond to "normal evolutionary" cues in their prey when released into the wild. That is hard-wired genetically. But the pellet is foreign completely to wild fish.

When you bring wild fish into a hatchery for the first time, it's very difficult to get them onto pelleted feeds. It's alien to them. You usually have to feed them chopped up bits of herring or other bait fish, and slowly acclimate them to pellets. Sometimes, it doesn't work at all, and you have sickly fish that won't take a pellet. They end up moribund and eventually culled.

Cool. Now if people would only start their kids out eating healthy foods, the sight of a golden arch or something may frighten them away from like establishments.

 

[Tonington]

Cool. Now if people would only start their kids out eating healthy foods, the sight of a golden arch or something may frighten them away from like establishments.

No $hit ehh! A homestead like you have Les, that's what Jamie and I want. I can teach my kids where real food comes from!

 

[coldstream]

I happily turn ON an extra symbolic lightbulb somewhere in my home during every Earth Hour. It doesn't surprise me that the luddites, or Mother Earth worship cult, sees this as only the first step in to ridding the pristine earth of its human pestilence.

I noticed that they managed to black out some of the noblest architectural artefacts of human design.. the Parthenon, the Pyramids, Eiffel Tower.. and many more, presumably to blot out the memory of human desacration of the planet. It just goes to show me that you can fool all of the people some of the time.. and some of the people all of the time.

I might consider it useful to apply technology to reducing the Carbon in the world, IF Global Warming was not a complete FRAUD.. in which case you should be celebrating human achievement rather than doing this sordid event.

 

[petros]

The oils are highly palatable. But it's really a combination of factors. Krill hydolysate for example is a collagen intermediary that is a highly palatable, and attractive protein for the fishies. Also, some companies use molasses. It's excellent at binding larger particles together, and is also a highly digestible source of carbs. Trout don't utilize carbs that well, but molasses is one of the exceptions.

Molasses eh? I never would have thought fish would have a sweet tooth. A fishing buddy makes an extract from atremia salina which he sprays on his tackle, it works quite well but boy does it stink. I use his leftovers on my garden. There is nothing that has higher amino acids with such small mass and the toms grow massive with low acidity.

 

[Tonington]

Molasses eh? I never would have thought fish would have a sweet tooth. A fishing buddy makes an extract from atremia salina which he sprays on his tackle, it works quite well but boy does it stink. I use his leftovers on my garden. There is nothing that has higher amino acids with such small mass and the toms grow massive with low acidity.

Those artemia do stink. When we decapsulate them for larval marine fish, they kind of smell like almonds in the perchlorite solution, well when they're ready that is. Foul rearing vessels though, blech!

 

[L Gilbert]

We didn't change our usual habits any because of "Earth Hour". We had the LEDs turned on where we needed light, and the rest were off. We didn't have the tvs on (they're worse than lights for the environment, both indirectly and directly). The fridge and freezer were doing their things.

Ton, yeah, I think our kids have a healthy respect for what food is, where it comes from, and what it takes to grow what is eaten. It's kind of astonishing that people stuff their faces without giving thought to the fact they are actually eating, let alone where the food comes from and stuff.

 

[petros]

Those artemia do stink. When we decapsulate them for larval marine fish, they kind of smell like almonds in the perchlorite solution, well when they're ready that is. Foul rearing vessels though, blech!

If they could be made tasty there is a fortune to be made as a protein supplement for body builders or for region on the planet with high carb diets.

 

[Tonington]

Ton, yeah, I think our kids have a healthy respect for what food is, where it comes from, and what it takes to grow what is eaten. It's kind of astonishing that people stuff their faces without giving thought to the fact they are actually eating, let alone where the food comes from and stuff.

I really don't want to live in a city. Jamies likely going to take large animal DVM, so it will be good to be located in an agricultural center somewhere. We found a nice place here, but she's not finished school, I have one semester to go, not to mention our portion for a farm loan board application.

Anyways, off to small business entrepeneurship. Coincidentally we have a guest speaker from the Business Development Banking Corporation, presenting to us how to acquire funding! lol.

 

[L Gilbert]

lol The science behind body building is already saturated.
Protein pellets for Texans. Good idea, although I think rather than feeding the species more protein, they should be deprived of more carbs. lol

 

[petros]

Anyways, off to small business entrepeneurship. Coincidentally we have a guest speaker from the Business Development Banking Corporation, presenting to us how to acquire funding! lol.

Actually they might have some good tips. FCC is a bitch to deal with.

 

[petros]

lol The science behind body building is already saturated.
Protein pellets for Texans. Good idea, although I think rather than feeding the species more protein, they should be deprived of more carbs. lol

You've got that right. Absolutely no other drug kills as much as sugar does.

 

[L Gilbert]

lol Nice link, Ton.
One definitely needs to know how far one's farm is from the nearest airports, grocery stores, etc. Whether it is good farmland, hilly, rocky, siZe, etc. is relatively irrelevant to buying a farm. Funny

 

[Cannuck]

lol If data isn't reality then it must be fiction.
If data shows something to be generally true then that's what it does.

Bread Kills!

 

[Cannuck]

There is a mass extinction going on?

Reading this thread it appears some people's IQ points are dropping like flies.

 

[L Gilbert]

Bread Kills!

Are those statements based on an abundance of scientific evidence or are they an attempt at humor?

 

[L Gilbert]

Reading this thread it appears some people's IQ points are dropping like flies.

Funny. I always thought flies flew.

 

[Cannuck]

Are those statements based on an abundance of scientific evidence or are they an attempt at humor?

Or are they both?

 

[L Gilbert]

I asked you first. After all, it's your link.

 

[Cannuck]

I asked you first. After all, it's your link.

Since I don't know the author, I can not tell you his/her intent. All I can say for sure is that neither you nor I can refute most (if not all) the data presented on that site.