What ought to be Canada official language policy?

Which of the options in the OP would be the best option for Canada?

  • Option 1.

    Votes: 1 6.7%
  • Option 2.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Option 3.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Option 4.

    Votes: 3 20.0%
  • Option 5.

    Votes: 11 73.3%

  • Total voters
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Machjo

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well since over a billion on the planet speak spanish and just alittle over 50 million speak french why not have spanish be our second language
I know French but not Spanish, so I can only go by what I've read about Spanish. I remember reading once that all Romance languages (which include Spanish) have very difficult verb conjugation. While it might be easy for a Francophone to learn it, it might not prove so easy to an Anglophone.

However, I have read that supposedly Spanish grammar is more logical than French relativley speaking, which could make it a little easier to English-speakers.
 

Machjo

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The second point is on the Plains of Abraham in 1759, the English under Wolfe, defeated the French under Montcalm. As far as speaking French goes, that should have been the end of it. If that isn't bad enough, the French even make it illegal to put up a sign in any language but French in La Belle Province.

Well, it would seem that defeat wasn't total. The Plains were but one battle of a war still being fought today it would seem.

Now with that kind of attitude, we defeated the Fist Nations too. So should we crush their languages for the final count? As for Quebec, should we arise again to put an end to French once and for all?

What are you suggesting exactly?
 

JLM

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Well, it would seem that defeat wasn't total. The Plains were but one battle of a war still being fought today it would seem.

Now with that kind of attitude, we defeated the Fist Nations too. So should we crush their languages for the final count? As for Quebec, should we arise again to put an end to French once and for all?

What are you suggesting exactly?

What I'm suggesting exactly is that French speaking people in Quebec should be allowed to speak French if that is their wish. They should not be allowed to say what others speak or prevent people from erecting signs in the language of their choice.
 

JLM

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well since over a billion on the planet speak spanish and just alittle over 50 million speak french why not have spanish be our second language

Your figures would be pretty close mapleleaf, all of South America except Brazil speaks Spanish, as does pretty well all of Central America plus Mexico and who knows what other countries overseas.
 

Machjo

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What I'm suggesting exactly is that French speaking people in Quebec should be allowed to speak French if that is their wish. They should not be allowed to say what others speak or prevent people from erecting signs in the language of their choice.

The problem though is the economic aspect of language. In the 1960's, English had become so dominant in Montreal that many French-speakers there were in fact assimilating to English (i.e., they were losing their mother tongue). As a result, Quebecers from central Quebec could no longer find work in Montreal unless they had a decent mastery of the English language, while it became increasingly easy for monolingual English-speakers from out of province, or even out of country, to find work in Montreal. That is part of the reality of language hegemony, as it applies to the First Nations' languages too by the way. And naturally, no people will sit idly by as they witness their access to economic resources shrinking in favour of another group which they perceive as foreign.

Generally, speaking, I would say that Easterners have better understood and thus managed inter-linguistic conflict far more competently than their Western counterparts. To take but two examples, little known to the average voter in the West:

In order to spread literacy across Korea, King Sae Jong the Great had established the Jiphyeonjeon (the Hall of Holies), consisting of scholars chosen by the King, in 1420, which set out to create Hangul (the Korean script, essentially a humanistic script), completed by 1444. It was specially designed to ensure maximum learnability. Even Westerners learning the script today can master it completely within a few hours to a few days at most, and statistics indicate that thanks to the King's great endeavour, Korea has among the highest rates of literacy in the world.

Bahasa Indonesia (the Indonesian language) is a naturalistic planned language (i.e. a systematically created language based on a number of closely related languages). Though there is some language tension in Indonesia (some argue that more words of Arabic origin shoud be added to it), the situation is far more peaceful than what we have in Canada, language-wise at least, in spite of Indonesia having 742 languages. For the most part, nearly all Indonesians are fluent in Bahasa Indonesia in spite of the fact that few speak it as a mother tongue or outside of official or formal contexts. One reason for its success is the fact that the government does in fact regulate quite closely the evolution of the language to maintain its learnability to ensure maximum and equal accessability to the nation's economic resources for all Indonesians.

In the West, however, it would seem that the idea of revising or creating languages to serve man is quite foreign to the average voter. Sure we have planned languages (Esperanto and Volapuk come to mind), and even naturalistic planned languages (Interlingua, Ido, Latino sine Flexione, etc.), but all of them, with the exception of Esperanto, have remained restricted to a scholarly class, unlike in the East where they've generally spread across the general population as a basis of national unity. And even Esperanto has but started to spread to the general population in the last 15 years or so.

I think one reason lies in the Confucian ethic in Korea, which is highly focussed on access to education for all, and Indonesia's predominantly Islamic culture which places a stong emphasis on social justice and equal opportunity for all.

In the Western tradition, the original spirit of the Christian Faith is all but dead in most political systems, materialism taking its place. That being the case, combined with an awareness of language being the key to accessing economic resources, along with a strong competitive mercantile tradition, the result is language conflict fighting for economic resources.

If anything, perhaps a revival of Christian spirituality might be what is needed for Canada to be able to overcome selfish conflict and be willing to ensure a common linguistic base for all Canadians regardless of mother tongue or educational opportunity, to ensure that all Canadians have equal access to the nation's economic resources.

What would be wrong with, let's say, Interlingua, for example? it is in fact a naturalistic planned language based on English and French.

Interlingua | Union Mundial pro Interlingua
 

barney

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I voted for 5 because this country is a multi-nation state (i.e. made up of English Canada with all of its provincial cultural variations, French Canada and the various First Nations), so it is only fair that all its languages be represented. Having to learn French in schools in English Canada is not more or less reasonable than having to learn Cree--though obviously not as spoken as Quebecois (French). Or for that matter, having to learn the languages of more recently arrived Canadians.

At the same time, it would be much more convenient if only one language was spoken in Canada. The problem is, which one?

The most logical would be English since it is the imperial language (i.e. the language spoken by the people who conquered this land), but then you get the question of why it should still be so in an era of globalization. Does the 'winner' argument still apply?

As was said earlier, there are parts of Canada where a second language would certainly not be French if number of speakers were to be the determining factor.

I have struggled with this question a lot: part of me wants to be as inclusive as possible, respecting the languages and cultures of each group. But another part says that lingual differences get in the way of efficient communication. I would say that it is best to err on the side of caution and not impose anything (i.e. no "both languages" legislation) but be sure to represent all groups equally. Mutual respect of differences can also be a basis for unity and solidarity.
 

Ron in Regina

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I grew up on the Prairies, and French was taught to us by someone
who really couldn't speak French herself from grades 3-7. Oh sure,
we were taught something, and we could understand inside the
classroom the poor imitation of this butchered French, but drop
someone from Quebec into that classroom and he'd barely
understand a thing being said by any of the students who could
understand each others butchered "French." I'm assuming I'm by no
means alone in this educational experience...I'm sure someone who's
actually exposed to people who can actually speak in English &
French can claim that French is easier to learn than English.

This would be like Stephane Dion (& only Stephane Dion) teaching
your children English, with them only being exposed to his version of
English for 1/2hr daily, Monday through Friday, and NOBODY else
speaks any English at all, and then upset that they can't be understood
in Western Canada. That's the reality of the French Language out here...
keep that in mind for anyone who wishes to think condescendingly to
those that aren't at least bilingual.

Now take that "French" 25yrs or more years into the future where you
haven't had to use it since passing "French" in grade seven, and you
don't end up bilingual what so ever. Except for some very isolated
pockets of French speaking people out on the Prairies (who's French
has drifted more than the English Language from Louisiana compared to
Australia...compared to what someone from Quebec would call French),
the language really doesn't exist out here. As an adult, I understand more
spoken Cree than I do French. A very short time in the Caribbean, and I
understand much more spoken Spanish than French.

What ought to be Canada's official language policy? I really don't know,
but I'd just like to see my Leased Operators being able to traverse Quebec
to get to Newfoundland (with its Newfoundmoney) without being singled
out for having Saskatchewan Apportioned Plated on their trucks. Most of
our Drivers in the East are Mennonites out'a Ontario (Speaking English,
Spanish, & Lower German), but that doesn't do them (or me) any good in
much of Quebec.

Just out of curiosity, how far apart is the French in Quebec City to the
French in, let say, Paris? How far apart would the French in either of these
places be from the French in Gravelbourg, Saskatchewan or north of that
200 miles in Domremy, Saskatchewan (more of less isolated from other
French communities for 3-4 generations)?
 

Machjo

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I voted for 5 because this country is a multi-nation state (i.e. made up of English Canada with all of its provincial cultural variations, French Canada and the various First Nations), so it is only fair that all its languages be represented. Having to learn French in schools in English Canada is not more or less reasonable than having to learn Cree--though obviously not as spoken as Quebecois (French). Or for that matter, having to learn the languages of more recently arrived Canadians.

At the same time, it would be much more convenient if only one language was spoken in Canada. The problem is, which one?

The most logical would be English since it is the imperial language (i.e. the language spoken by the people who conquered this land), but then you get the question of why it should still be so in an era of globalization. Does the 'winner' argument still apply?

As was said earlier, there are parts of Canada where a second language would certainly not be French if number of speakers were to be the determining factor.

I have struggled with this question a lot: part of me wants to be as inclusive as possible, respecting the languages and cultures of each group. But another part says that lingual differences get in the way of efficient communication. I would say that it is best to err on the side of caution and not impose anything (i.e. no "both languages" legislation) but be sure to represent all groups equally. Mutual respect of differences can also be a basis for unity and solidarity.

Very thoughtful post, and I like it. As for ensuring linguistic unity while still repsecting linguistic diversity, why not the Indonesian model, whereby the governmet established Bahasa Indonesia, a naturalistic planned language spoken by few as a mother-tongue but designed to be easy to learn by all Indonesians. As a result, we have a situation there whereby Indonesia has one common language for the nation, but near universal bilingualism among the population.

If Canada were to adopt such a model, it could in fact ensure linguistic unity and diversity at the same time by either creating or adopting a language that would be easy to learn by design, thus allowing all Canadians to learn this common language quickly without having to sacrifice their mother tongues and still ensure communicability and equality for all Canadians. Why not learn from Eastern models?
 

LordDurham

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I will repeat My Language Policy that I support for Canada and its Provinces and Territories!


National Language(s) of the Dominion of Canada
English, French

Provincial Language(s) of the Province of Newfoundland (Minus Labrador)
English

Provincial Language(s) of the Province of Nova Scotia
English

Provincial Language(s) of the Province of New Brunswick
English, French

Provincial Language(s) of the Province of Prince Edward Island
English

Provincial Language(s) of the Province of Quebec (Plus Labrador)
English, French

Provincial Language(s) of the Province of Ontario
English

Provincial Language(s) of the Province of Manitoba
English

Provincial Language(s) of the Province of Saskatchewan
English

Provincial Language(s) of the Province of Alberta
English

Provincial Language(s) of the Province of British Columbia
English

Territorial Language(s) of the Yukon Territory
English

Territorial Language(s) of the Northwest Territory (Plus Nunavut Territory)
English


Bilingual (English, French) Provinces (2)

01. Province of New Brunswick
02. Province of Quebec


Unilingual (English) Provinces (8)

01. Province of Newfoundland
02. Province of Nova Scotia
03. Province of Prince Edward Island
04. Province of Ontario
05. Province of Manitoba
06. Province of Saskatchewan
07. Province of Alberta
08. Province of British Columbia


Unilingual (English) Territories (2)

01. Yukon Territory
02. Northwest Territory



I believe that this is a very fair and liberal language policy for the French Canadians. I can assure you that the French had they won the French and Indian War and the British Lost, the British settlers in North America would not have been given the same language rights as what the French Canadians got in the Quebec ACT and the BNA ACT of 1867. The French would have banned the English Language and would have killed it of. The English Language would be dead in North America. Look how the French Republic treats its minority and regional languages from the French Revolution to the present day.

Language Policy in France
Language policy in France - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

" For the Linguistic Unity of France the Breton Language must disapear"

Anatole De Monzie: Public Education Minister of the French Republic
1925

" Their is no Place for the regional languages and cultures in a France that intends to mark Europe deeply"

Georges Pompidou: President of the French Republic
1972


Read what happend to the German Language in the Province of Alsace Lorraine now the Provinces of Alsace and Lorraine after the First World War.


This is what would would have happend to the English Language in North America had the French WON and the British LOST the French and Indian War. The French Canadians must realise how god dam lucky that the British are more tollerant of languages then the French are. The French Canadians should stop moaning and crying over and should be happy and thankfull that the British preserved their dam Language by making it the Co-Official Language of the Dominion of Canada and the Province of Quebec threw the BNA ACT of 1867.

BTW Under the BNA ACT of 1867 the English Language is the Co-Official Language of the Province of Quebec along with French. The anti-English Laws such as Bill 22, Bill 78, Bill 101 and company are in direct violation of this very act that states that both English and French are the co-official languages and each has the same rights in Quebec. Quebec was made into a Bilingual (English, French) speaking province just like the Province of New Brunswick and not a Unilingual (French) speaking province like it is now.



I would like to see the Anglo-Quebec population be restored to its historical height of 25% of the Province's population and I would like to see the restoration of the historical Anglo-Quebec population of both Montreal and Quebec City to be restored to their historical hights as well.
 

ironsides

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Canadenses todos deberían ser obrigados a falar galego. Dump todas as outras linguas falsa.

English of course should be Canada's official language, unless of course the French take over, then it should be French.​
Require every citizen to have a basic knowledge of what ever language you decide upon, but one language makes it cheaper and simpler.

 

Tyr

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I grew up on the Prairies, and French was taught to us by someone
who really couldn't speak French herself from grades 3-7. Oh sure,
we were taught something, and we could understand inside the
classroom the poor imitation of this butchered French, but drop
someone from Quebec into that classroom and he'd barely
understand a thing being said by any of the students who could
understand each others butchered "French." I'm assuming I'm by no
means alone in this educational experience...I'm sure someone who's
actually exposed to people who can actually speak in English &
French can claim that French is easier to learn than English.

This would be like Stephane Dion (& only Stephane Dion) teaching
your children English, with them only being exposed to his version of
English for 1/2hr daily, Monday through Friday, and NOBODY else
speaks any English at all, and then upset that they can't be understood
in Western Canada. That's the reality of the French Language out here...
keep that in mind for anyone who wishes to think condescendingly to
those that aren't at least bilingual.

Now take that "French" 25yrs or more years into the future where you
haven't had to use it since passing "French" in grade seven, and you
don't end up bilingual what so ever. Except for some very isolated
pockets of French speaking people out on the Prairies (who's French
has drifted more than the English Language from Louisiana compared to
Australia...compared to what someone from Quebec would call French),
the language really doesn't exist out here. As an adult, I understand more
spoken Cree than I do French. A very short time in the Caribbean, and I
understand much more spoken Spanish than French.

What ought to be Canada's official language policy? I really don't know,
but I'd just like to see my Leased Operators being able to traverse Quebec
to get to Newfoundland (with its Newfoundmoney) without being singled
out for having Saskatchewan Apportioned Plated on their trucks. Most of
our Drivers in the East are Mennonites out'a Ontario (Speaking English,
Spanish, & Lower German), but that doesn't do them (or me) any good in
much of Quebec.

Just out of curiosity, how far apart is the French in Quebec City to the
French in, let say, Paris? How far apart would the French in either of these
places be from the French in Gravelbourg, Saskatchewan or north of that
200 miles in Domremy, Saskatchewan (more of less isolated from other
French communities for 3-4 generations)?

Just out of curiosity, how far apart is the French in Quebec City to the
French in, let say, Paris? How far apart would the French in either of these
places be from the French in Gravelbourg, Saskatchewan or north of that
200 miles in Domremy, Saskatchewan (more of less isolated from other
French communities for 3-4 generations)?


Over 95% commonality which is greater than the English in Newfoundland compared to the English spoken in Ontario
 

barney

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Very thoughtful post, and I like it. As for ensuring linguistic unity while still repsecting linguistic diversity, why not the Indonesian model, whereby the governmet established Bahasa Indonesia, a naturalistic planned language spoken by few as a mother-tongue but designed to be easy to learn by all Indonesians. As a result, we have a situation there whereby Indonesia has one common language for the nation, but near universal bilingualism among the population.

If Canada were to adopt such a model, it could in fact ensure linguistic unity and diversity at the same time by either creating or adopting a language that would be easy to learn by design, thus allowing all Canadians to learn this common language quickly without having to sacrifice their mother tongues and still ensure communicability and equality for all Canadians. Why not learn from Eastern models?

Thanks. Bahasa Indonesia is based on one of their minority languages right? Difficult to see that happening here because Canada is the product of recent colonization and the elimination of large portions of the original inhabitants, which are now a minority but not seen as equals by the majority(?) of the colonial population. The imposition of a region-based minority language would have to be a First Nations language and can you imagine all of us having to learn some variation of Algic or Iroquoian?

If it were a completely new language designed to be easy to learn, it would have to be equally easy to learn for all residents. Meaning that it would have to contain structural forms that all of the above mentioned groups could adapt to with equal facility, while at the same time retaining a comprehensive overall structure (i.e. smallest possible learning curve).

Same deal if it were an imported language (note that the euro-centric nature of Esperanto would conflict with the above requirements).

The real obstacle is that it's unlikely that Canadians would want to learn it. English Canadians especially would argue that theirs is the most spoken language and so why should they not be able to speak it in Parliament? French Canadians would not benefit because then their language would effectively become a 3rd language--not to mention the effect on already degraded First Nations languages.

We've already seen that most Canadians don't learn both French and English languages (First Nations and other languages don't even have official status so there's absolutely no incentive to learn them--putting aside that they're far less spoken than the two official languages). For those that do learn the other language, it usually doesn't stick: I learned to speak French at one point but lack of opportunity to practise it has resulted in my forgetting how.

The only way to make it stick is to use it at school and at work--all work (i.e. public and private sectors) all the time.

This isn't realistic for bilingualism because people will only have contact with the other language if the person they are talking to speaks it (e.g. if most of the people you are surrounded with are from English Canada, you're unlikely to have anyone speaking to you in French, unless they just decide to start speaking in French and that is unlikely--and vice versa). This means that people will be burdened to be bilingual in order to be able to work without being able to stay in practise (meaning they will frequently have to be taking courses in the other language just to remain bilingual--if only at an auditory/literate level). And of course, you can't force people to speak the other language part of the time or something like that--that would be impractical to the point of absurdity.

The thing about it is, English is so prevalent in the world and has become so entrenched in North America that listening to the PM making a speech in something not English (and not French) would be pretty weird to many people.

Another objection is that Quebec would still be exposed to foreign English-speaking media (especially from the USA). The main reason why French Canadians insist on speaking French at all times is that it is necessary for the maintenance of lingual integrity (i.e. to sway the lingual influence of the English-speaking media). Since language is very much connected to national identity, the eroding effect on French Canadian culture would be more severe than that that of English Canada. The only way to avoid this is to apply the official language to all media as well (i.e. all incoming media would have to be translated into the official language).

The logic being that if a new official language is introduced to Canada, it cannot leave any group more or less advantaged than other.

An official language would obviously reduce the usage of all other languages but if applied universally, would dramatically reduce the corrosive effects on 'less advantaged' languages by dominant ones.

From what I know of newly-created languages, they tend to be less "fluid" than 'actual' languages. I attribute that to language usually having had centuries if not millennia to develop and adapt to different social realities. Clearly even the simplest, most comprehensive language would involve an uncomfortable adaptation process.
 
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LordDurham

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Thanks. Bahasa Indonesia is based on one of their minority languages right? Difficult to see that happening here because Canada is the product of recent colonization and the elimination of large portions of the original inhabitants, which are now a minority but not seen as equals by the majority(?) of the colonial population. The imposition of a region-based minority language would have to be a First Nations language and can you imagine all of us having to learn some variation of Algic or Iroquoian?

If it were a completely new language designed to be easy to learn, it would have to be equally easy to learn for all residents. Meaning that it would have to contain structural forms that all of the above mentioned groups could adapt to with equal facility, while at the same time retaining a comprehensive overall structure (i.e. smallest possible learning curve).

Same deal if it were an imported language (note that the euro-centric nature of Esperanto would conflict with the above requirements).

The real obstacle is that it's unlikely that Canadians would want to learn it. English Canadians especially would argue that theirs is the most spoken language and so why should they not be able to speak it in Parliament? French Canadians would not benefit because then their language would effectively become a 3rd language--not to mention the effect on already degraded First Nations languages.

We've already seen that most Canadians don't learn both French and English languages (First Nations and other languages don't even have official status so there's absolutely no incentive to learn them--putting aside that they're far less spoken than the two official languages). For those that do learn the other language, it usually doesn't stick: I learned to speak French at one point but lack of opportunity to practise it has resulted in my forgetting how.

The only way to make it stick is to use it at school and at work--all work (i.e. public and private sectors) all the time.

This isn't realistic for bilingualism because people will only have contact with the other language if the person they are talking to speaks it (e.g. if most of the people you are surrounded with are from English Canada, you're unlikely to have anyone speaking to you in French, unless they just decide to start speaking in French and that is unlikely--and vice versa). This means that people will be burdened to be bilingual in order to be able to work without being able to stay in practise (meaning they will frequently have to be taking courses in the other language just to remain bilingual--if only at an auditory/literate level). And of course, you can't force people to speak the other language part of the time or something like that--that would be impractical to the point of absurdity.

The thing about it is, English is so prevalent in the world and has become so entrenched in North America that listening to the PM making a speech in something not English (and not French) would be pretty weird to many people.

Another objection is that Quebec would still be exposed to foreign English-speaking media (especially from the USA). The main reason why French Canadians insist on speaking French at all times is that it is necessary for the maintenance of lingual integrity (i.e. to sway the lingual influence of the English-speaking media). Since language is very much connected to national identity, the eroding effect on French Canadian culture would be more severe than that that of English Canada. The only way to avoid this is to apply the official language to all media as well (i.e. all incoming media would have to be translated into the official language).

The logic being that if a new official language is introduced to Canada, it cannot leave any group more or less advantaged than other.

An official language would obviously reduce the usage of all other languages but if applied universally, would dramatically reduce the corrosive effects on 'less advantaged' languages by dominant ones.

From what I know of newly-created languages, they tend to be less "fluid" than 'actual' languages. I attribute that to language usually having had centuries if not millennia to develop and adapt to different social realities. Clearly even the simplest, most comprehensive language would involve an uncomfortable adaptation process.


I dont care if the French Canadians feel threatend by the English Language. The British and later Canada gave more rights to French Canadians then any other defeated peoples in history, they allowed them to keep their language and they also protected it by giving them the Quebec Act and the BNA ACT of 1867 by making French Co-Offiicial Language along with English of the Dominion of Canada and the Province of Quebec. The French Language is thriving in Quebec because of British and later Canadian tollerance and how do the French Canadians repay the British and later Canadians for giving them such language rights by

01. Removing the English Language as the Co-Official Language of Quebec
02. Creating such anti-English Language Laws as Bill 22, Bill 78 and Bill 101
03. Establishing a Language Police
04. Chassing out 1 Million Anglo-Quebecers by FLQ Terror and PQ Tyranny
05. Making French on Quebec Signs twice as large of that of English
06. Constantly whinning and bitching about so-called past injustices
07. Having a Independence Referendum every 15 Years or so
08. Rewriting history to suit their propaganda



I say enough is enough. Canada has bent over backwards for these ungratefull frogs and since the carrot of tollerance and appeasment has failed. I know believe its time for the stick of assimiliation. The French Language has proven itself a divider in Canada and it must die out and the English Language imposed on Quebec. With the English Language as Canada's and Quebec's sole official language life would be so much easier. English is the dominent language of North America and the International Language too. As far as I am concerned the French Canadians have never deserved their language rights given to them by the British and later Canada bTW they have abused them, they have proven themselves that they cant rule Quebec and Quebec must be ruled for them. Give a French Person a Foot and they take a Mile. Canada must


01. Restore the English Language in Quebec
02. Repeal such anti-English Language Laws as Bill 22, bill 78, Bill 101
03. Dismantle the Language Police
04. Return the Anglo-Quebec population back to 25% of the Province's Population
05. Make Quebec City and Montreal Majority Anglophone Cities
06. Ban the Parti Quebecois
07. Expell and deport all Parti Quebecois members and supporters
08. Return all Properties and Buisness belonging to Anglo-Quebecers
09. Rename the National Assembly to the Legislative Assembly of Quebec
10. Remove the notion of "Quebec is a Nation with in a Nation" crap


Quebec Act
Quebec Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Constitution Act of 1867
Constitution Act, 1867 (English Language Version)
Loi constitutionnelle de 1867 (French Language Version)



If the French Language is destined to die out in North America, then so what. I say let it die because it has bee a threat to the Unity of Canada from day 1. No matter what the British Empire and later Canada did to bend over backwards for the French Canadians, they did not get any loyalty or repsect from the French Canadians. Tollerance has gotten Canada and Quebec nowhere.

The best thing that could happen to the French Canadians is when the are Anglicised and Assimilated into Anglo-Canadian culture and transformed from Francophones into Anglophones. This will be the best solution in the long run and they must accept this. Had the British carried out Lord Durham's recomendations serriously then Canada and Quebec would not be in the Language mess it is know. Had the British behaved like how the Quebecois are behaving in Quebec the French Language would be dead by now and burried.


QUEBEC IS A PROVINCE OF CANADA NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS AND IT IS NOT A NATION NO MATTER WHAT TRAITOR HARPER OR THE OTHER BROWN NOSING APPEASING ANGLO-CANADIAN POLITICANS AND QUEBECOIS SAYS.


LONG LIVE A UNTED CANADA
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN
 

LordDurham

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Here is another Language Policy that I support for Canada!

National Language(s) of the Dominion of Canada
English

Provincial Language(s) of the Province of Newfoundland (Minus Labrador)
English

Provincial Language(s) of the Province of Nova Scotia
English

Provincial Language(s) of the Province of New Brunswick
English, French

Provincial Language(s) of the Province of Prince Edward Island
English

Provincial Language(s) of the Province of Quebec (Plus Labrador)
English, French

Provincial Language(s) of the Province of Ontario
English

Provincial Language(s) of the Province of Manitoba
English

Provincial Language(s) of the Province of Saskatchewan
Englsih

Provincial Language(s) of the Province of Alberta
English

Provincial Language(s) of the Province of British Columbia
English

Territorial Language(s) of the Yukon Territory
English

Territorial Language(s) of the Northwest Territory (Plus Nunavut Territory)
English


Canada would have 1 National Language (English) and the French Language will be confined to the historically French Provinces of Canada, New Brunswick (Acadia) and Quebec on a Bilingual basis with English as the Co-Official Language of these Provinces. Its bascially like the United States which has English as the National Language of the United States but the State of Louisiana has both English and French as Co-Official Languages.

REDUCE THE FRENCH LANGUAGE FROM A NATIONAL CO-OFFICIAL LANGUAGE OF CANADA TO A CO-OFFICAL PROVINCIAL LANGUAGE OF NEW BRUNSWICK AND QUEBEC.


English will be the Official Language of the Houses of Parliament and the Federal Courts of Canada. English and French will be the Co-Official Languages of the Houses of Legislature of New Brunswick and Quebec and the Provincial Courts of New Brunswick and Quebec.


LONG LIVE A UNTED CANADA
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN
 

barney

Electoral Member
Aug 1, 2007
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Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you the 'winner' argument:

The British and later Canada gave more rights to French Canadians then any other defeated peoples in history, they allowed them to keep their language and they also protected it by giving them the Quebec Act and the BNA ACT of 1867 by making French Co-Offiicial Language along with English of the Dominion of Canada and the Province of Quebec.

01. Restore the English Language in Quebec
02. Repeal such anti-English Language Laws as Bill 22, bill 78, Bill 101
03. Dismantle the Language Police
04. Return the Anglo-Quebec population back to 25% of the Province's Population
05. Make Quebec City and Montreal Majority Anglophone Cities
06. Ban the Parti Quebecois
07. Expell and deport all Parti Quebecois members and supporters
08. Return all Properties and Buisness belonging to Anglo-Quebecers
09. Rename the National Assembly to the Legislative Assembly of Quebec
10. Remove the notion of "Quebec is a Nation with in a Nation" crap

11. Resurrect Mosley and establish an Anglo-fascist regime in Canada. ;-)


Look, I understand the frustration but this is not a cut-and-dry issue and it can't be solved by rash action any more than similar situations elsewhere.
 

barney

Electoral Member
Aug 1, 2007
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Oh and it's technically 'nation within a state' (Canada is a multi-nation state).
 

L Gilbert

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