WTF is wrong with the police?
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I don't believe it's a word the police offices like to use but the truth is - they do have quota's to fill regarding visible minorites and I will include First Nations people in that. It used to be and may still be that the numbers of 1st Nations hired was separate from visible minorities. While you may choose not to believe it - the truth is that when VM's or 1st N's fail the test, they are allowed to write it again and it is modified when it comes to the end result. Meaning - they are allowed to have a pass with a lower grade then you for example, would have. This means there is a really good possibility that VM's can become members with a lower passing mark and with possibly even a criminal record of some sort being forgiven. A white male in particular, would not receive the same considerations. I tell you the truth. While you may think it's against the law, it is the government who decides what the quota's will be. The very sad truth is that you end up with sub-standard officers. This is for all police forces across Canada. In 1994 I actually had the exact quota's written down and what their passing grade needed to be. I eventually threw it out but I wish I had not so that I could quote it here. I am not suggesting that all VM's are going to be sub-standard. I'm just telling you that it happens.
When we were driving in Spokane a couple of years ago, we noticed a cop about half a mile ahead with red light flashing, so we proceeded slowly toward the cop car and when we were about 50 yards aways, he came charging up the road on foot, arms flapping, so when I got to him I stopped. "What does a red light mean"? Being a little flustered I just replied "stop" and took a bit of verbal abuse. Of course a minute later I realized I should have said "stop, when you reach the friggin' thing". Anyway I just "wrote it off" to the guy being an idiot. You don't just all of a sudden stop when you see a red light three miles down the road.
Island Pacific- you know by now, like 98% of intelligent posters that any threads about the cops brings out all the lunatics, and it seems this thread isn't any different. I've said it a thousand times, most of the cops are good, sensible, dedicated people BUT there's a small percentage who are thugs and hotdogs, like in every profession. JERKS don't discriminate when it comes to a line of employment.
Neither can I...unless one equates "unqualified" and "incapable" with some particular race. It would appear that you and Tyr were the ones that did that. Personally, I was a tad bit shocked that you two would so willingly point out your personal biases in such a way.
Just so people are clear...I posted on this thread..
"As I said on the other thread about the Vancouver mounties, they are being forced to hire unqualified and incapable people. Blame political correctness."
If one is to look at that thread, they would find this comment...
"It's not that the training standards are lax. It is that the hiring standards are lax. The RCMP are forced to hire people today that would never have been considered 30 years ago. Obviously, training "standards" have to be "standardized". 30 years ago a cop would have pulled out his billy club, ordered the guy down to the ground. If he didn't comply he would get smacked. Today, and because of the legal requirements to hire 90 pound weaklings into the RCMP, cops are taught to get out of control situations under control asap. Police have tasered drunk drivers trying to run away (contradicting Praxius assertion that it is a last resort before shooting). I was at a recent Disaster Services table top exercise when an RCMP officer informed everyone that she would taser anybody that refused to leave their home when ordered to evacuate because "they were putting people at risk by staying".
The bureaucrats have forced the RCMP (as well as others) to lower hiring standards due to human rights concerns. This lower standard has caused the RCMP to alter their training to accommodate these people. Don't blame the officers. Don't blame the RCMP. Blame political correctness.
Both Tyr and lone wolf have insinuated (that's the polite word) that I am a racist because they assume that being unqualified and incapable relates to race. It is unfortunate that they feel this way. I certainly don't.
"As I said on the other thread about the Vancouver mounties, they are being forced to hire unqualified and incapable people. Blame political correctness."
If one is to look at that thread, they would find this comment...
"It's not that the training standards are lax. It is that the hiring standards are lax. The RCMP are forced to hire people today that would never have been considered 30 years ago. Obviously, training "standards" have to be "standardized". 30 years ago a cop would have pulled out his billy club, ordered the guy down to the ground. If he didn't comply he would get smacked. Today, and because of the legal requirements to hire 90 pound weaklings into the RCMP, cops are taught to get out of control situations under control asap. Police have tasered drunk drivers trying to run away (contradicting Praxius assertion that it is a last resort before shooting). I was at a recent Disaster Services table top exercise when an RCMP officer informed everyone that she would taser anybody that refused to leave their home when ordered to evacuate because "they were putting people at risk by staying".
The bureaucrats have forced the RCMP (as well as others) to lower hiring standards due to human rights concerns. This lower standard has caused the RCMP to alter their training to accommodate these people. Don't blame the officers. Don't blame the RCMP. Blame political correctness.
Both Tyr and lone wolf have insinuated (that's the polite word) that I am a racist because they assume that being unqualified and incapable relates to race. It is unfortunate that they feel this way. I certainly don't.
No ... it was the "blame political correctness" jab - but I'm sure a brilliant fellow such as yourself would squirm into that several times while wallowing in your own stuff....
To tell the truth, I was thinking more in line with gender bias - based in that "90 pound weakling" jab in the other thread. (See ... I DID read it :-|)
He could have been talking about that poor fellow that got sand kicked in his face in the old advertisments that used to be in comic books.;-)
I was recently attended to by a couple Paramedics, my neighbour and my lil brother had to lift the gurney down my front porch. I don't weigh a ton and they ain't body builders.
That's not to say that the Paramedics weren't top notch at the rest of their job. But if extraction were necessary and no other capable people were near by. Someone could lose a life.
That's not to say that the Paramedics weren't top notch at the rest of their job. But if extraction were necessary and no other capable people were near by. Someone could lose a life.
It would appear that it is you that has the gender bias. One does not have to be female to be a 90 pound weakling. Just ask the officers in the RCMP's Bow Island, Alberta detachment. You should really stop with all the sexism and generalizations.
I have an Aunt who's a Paramedic out in Ottawa. She can easily Fireman's carry moi. She's a lil heavier then 90lbs. But then again she wasn't hired under project 'bootstraps'.
Why are you so busy deflecting? Raw nerve ... or your assumptions just made an ass of you? We do have a cage for you....
That's been my worry.... Top notch means bugger all in a gurney drag through snow. I'm no light weight either ... and some of these meds make weight nearly impossible to shed.
Wow.8O I am thankful that you were at least given the opportunity to change before it was too late.:smile: