Goodbye Conservatives and Hello Coalition, it's about time

[DurkaDurka]

You have been nastier to me then I have to you. I did not come on this site to pick back yard bully fights with you.
I have the rite to a defensive rebuttal if some one like D.D IS PICKING ON ME AND BEING A CONSTANT AGITATOR DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT?

YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO TELL ME NOT TO DEFEND MY SELF. THIS IS NOT ABOUT POWER TRIPPING IT IS ABOUT ALLOWING ALL MEMBERS TO INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE SEEN TEMPERS RISE FOR EVERY ONE AT TIMES ON A FRIENDLY PLATFORM.

YOU ARE TALKING TO ME AS IF YOU ARE TALKING TO A KID,
I DO NOT COME HERE TO AGITATE PEOPLE, I COME HERE TO DEBATE ISSUES OF THE DAY WITH ALL FORUM MEMBERS. I AM NOT A KID AND DON’T POWER TRIP WITH ME. :angryfire:

I am picking on you? Give me a break. You consistently accuse anyone who disagree with you as being a "con" or any newspaper that you dislike as being a "con". Your shtick is getting old.

Also, you don't debate, you scream, yell and generally throw temper tantrums.

 

[Socrates the Greek]

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[Walter]

Harper's days are numbered as well the days of the Cons in general are dwindling.
Harper will pay for his thugury, the coalition is the new brand of politics in Canada thanks to Harpocon

Breaking: New polls show huge Tory gains:
Ipsos: CPC 46, LPC 23, NDP 13, BQ 9, GPC 8
Ekos: CPC 44, LPC 24, NDP 15, BQ 9, GPC 8
Compas: 72% biz leaders see worse economy under Dion coalition

BOURQUE NEWSWATCH - TOMORROW'S NEWS NOW 2009®

 

[Walter]

Harper will pay for his thugury, the coalition is the new brand of politics in Canada thanks to Harpocon

Some Liberal MPs already deserting coalition

By THE CANADIAN PRESS
Thu. Dec 4 - 6:06 PM
OTTAWA — Liberal resolve to bring down the Conservative government is already starting to crumble.
Within an hour of Prime Minister Stephen Harper winning a two-month reprieve, some Grit MPs were pulling back from the idea of trying to replace the Tory regime with a Liberal-NDP coalition propped up by the Bloc Quebecois.
Toronto MP Jim Karygiannis says the coalition idea is finished and is calling on Stephane Dion to resign the Liberal leadership sooner rather than later.
Dion is scheduled to step aside as Liberal leader once a successor is chosen May 2 but many Liberals remain uneasy about the prospect of ensconcing him in the prime minister's office even temporarily.
Newfoundland MP Scott Simms says all MPs need to give their heads' a collective shake and get back in touch with what their constituents want them to do: fix the faltering economy.
Victoria MP Keith Martin says the two-month suspension of Parliament gives opposition parties a chance to open lines of communication with the government and work out a way to avert another crisis in the new year.

 

[Risus]

In my opinion, we as a country, in the eyes of the world now look seriously flawed politically. This does not augur well for us.

scratch

Yes, and you can blame the three stooges and their three ring circus for that...

 

[Socrates the Greek]

Breaking: New polls show huge Tory gains:
Ipsos: CPC 46, LPC 23, NDP 13, BQ 9, GPC 8
Ekos: CPC 44, LPC 24, NDP 15, BQ 9, GPC 8
Compas: 72% biz leaders see worse economy under Dion coalition

BOURQUE NEWSWATCH - TOMORROW'S NEWS NOW 2009®

Have a nice dream, because come January you will be amazed with the humiliation the Cons will face. They can run but they will not have another time out.....

 

[Walter]

 

[Socrates the Greek]

The true reason why we Canadians find our self’s in such a bad political reality is because of poor voter education, which altimetry creates voter apathy....
Sad day for an industrialized country like Canada of huge leader potential....

 

[Adriatik]

Wow,

I have read some of the recent posts in here...

It seems that Harper is able to bring the worst out in everyone. I only blame him and his party for this.

Harper is deliberately turning Canadians against each other by first, starting this goddamn crisis, and then Bashing Quebecers calling them "separatists".

I can already picture Conservative supporters saying that it is not Harper's fault but the coalition leaders' fault but they have no argument. If Harper's minority would have sought to give in right away to the Opposition rather than trying to push forward his twisted ideologies, we wouldn't be in this mess.

The man is clearly not fit to lead the country as he plays Canadians for fools and is trying to turn us against each oither for his own personal gain.

We clearly do not need that type of crap.

The way Socrates the Greek reacted to agitators is perfectly normal. We are all very emotional about this. What Harper is doing to Canadians that normally coexist must stop.

When emotions run high, it creates the perfect climate for extremists to start mobilizing. I would be prepared to bet that extremists groups will mobilize soon... Who knows, maybe Harper's safety could very well be compromised...

Dangerous game indeed for Harper.

 

[Colpy]

Talking Heads (the At Issue panel) on the CBC National were unanimous..........the coalition is dead. Liberal supporters, and now Liberal MPs, are abandoning the idea in droves.

 

[Colpy]

So Colpy,

Do we wait this out or is there another solution, besides another election?

regards
scratch

well, if the Coalition is dead, as it seems it is, it is all over.

in a way, I'm pleased. I'd vote Conservative in an election, I would hope that Harper got a majority against any coalition that included the Bloc.....

 

[DurkaDurka]

Wow,

I have read some of the recent posts in here...

It seems that Harper is able to bring the worst out in everyone. I only blame him and his party for this.

Harper is deliberately turning Canadians against each other by first, starting this goddamn crisis, and then Bashing Quebecers calling them "separatists".

I can already picture Conservative supporters saying that it is not Harper's fault but the coalition leaders' fault but they have no argument. If Harper's minority would have sought to give in right away to the Opposition rather than trying to push forward his twisted ideologies, we wouldn't be in this mess.

The man is clearly not fit to lead the country as he plays Canadians for fools and is trying to turn us against each oither for his own personal gain.

We clearly do not need that type of crap.

The way Socrates the Greek reacted to agitators is perfectly normal. We are all very emotional about this. What Harper is doing to Canadians that normally coexist must stop.

When emotions run high, it creates the perfect climate for extremists to start mobilizing. I would be prepared to bet that extremists groups will mobilize soon... Who knows, maybe Harper's safety could very well be compromised...

Dangerous game indeed for Harper.

Anything else you need to blame on Haper? Seriously, there is a lot more at play here then just Harper.

 

[DurkaDurka]

Seems Canadians are pissed off all around... At Harper, The Liberals, NDP & especially the unholy alliance between Dion & the Bloc

From the Globeandmail
globeandmail.com: Majority prefers keeping Conservative government

"Only 37 per cent of respondents supported the proposed Liberal-NDP coalition, while 58 per cent opposed it. In addition, 60 per cent opposed the coalition's arrangement to rely on the separatist Bloc Québécois to survive confidence votes in the House."

 

[DurkaDurka]

I have no doubt about your findings but the Bloc votes are legitimate.

Just an observation

regards,
scratch

They may be, but voters certainly seem to be disturbed by the fact that the Liberals and NDP are selling out their votes to the Bloc.

 

[Inteligento]

Seems Canadians are pissed off all around... At Harper, The Liberals, NDP & especially the unholy alliance between Dion & the Bloc

From the Globeandmail
globeandmail.com: Majority prefers keeping Conservative government

"Only 37 per cent of respondents supported the proposed Liberal-NDP coalition, while 58 per cent opposed it. In addition, 60 per cent opposed the coalition's arrangement to rely on the separatist Bloc Québécois to survive confidence votes in the House."

You should see my post: Democracy-reforming the Canadian system

 

[VanIsle]

Anything else you need to blame on Haper? Seriously, there is a lot more at play here then just Harper.

Did you turn off your TV tonight or what? Not many people are in favour of the coalition which is in fact falling apart at the seams. It was stated tonight on TV that the liberals are so wanting out of this that they are even trying to get the PM to help them get out of it. The latest Ipso's poll states that Canadians believe Harper is the man to lead us out of the economic crisis we are in. They say in fact that the popular vote right now between the libs and the cons is so far spread that it's embarrassing. Something like the low 40's(libs) to mid 60's (con's). This will probably drop once cooler heads prevail but your post proves that cooler heads do need to prevail. No one wants an election. I think that by the end of January, we'll simply be in a place where the parties are co-operating more and the coalition will disappear.

 

[VanIsle]

My quote didn't seem to work and in the end - I think it's turned out that I quoted the wrong person.

 

[shadowshiv]

My quote didn't seem to work and in the end - I think it's turned out that I quoted the wrong person.

Nothing to worry about, Island. It's happened to all of us at one point or another.;-):smile:

 

[Vanni Fucci]

Nothing to worry about, Island. It's happened to all of us at one point or another.;-):smile:

Never happened to me...:-?

 

[Colpy]

Wow,

I have read some of the recent posts in here...

It seems that Harper is able to bring the worst out in everyone. I only blame him and his party for this.

Well, as an NDP supporter, you probably blame Harper for the world economic crisis, Islamic terrorism, global warming, bad weather, acne, and the common cold.

Harper is deliberately turning Canadians against each other by first, starting this goddamn crisis, and then Bashing Quebecers calling them "separatists".

I can already picture Conservative supporters saying that it is not Harper's fault but the coalition leaders' fault but they have no argument. If Harper's minority would have sought to give in right away to the Opposition rather than trying to push forward his twisted ideologies, we wouldn't be in this mess.

Ah, but the financial update was exactly the thing Canadians elected him for, cautious, prudent, not shoveling money off the train as fast as possible. Today's polls show people want Harper to be the leader in these poor economic times. The crisis was totally caused by the NDP and Bloc, who dragged in the Libs, fearful of being hauled off the public tit. A plan hatched, IMHO, by that moron, Jack Layton.

The man is clearly not fit to lead the country as he plays Canadians for fools and is trying to turn us against each oither for his own personal gain.

We clearly do not need that type of crap.

The way Socrates the Greek reacted to agitators is perfectly normal. We are all very emotional about this. What Harper is doing to Canadians that normally coexist must stop.

When emotions run high, it creates the perfect climate for extremists to start mobilizing. I would be prepared to bet that extremists groups will mobilize soon... Who knows, maybe Harper's safety could very well be compromised...

Yep......lefty loonies abound

Dangerous game indeed for Harper.

The coalition is dead.