Herman Cain could be the Republican nominee for President

Walter

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An excerpt from a Lloyd Marcus column:

Why has the left launched a stop-at-all-cost political hit on Herman Cain? The answer is quite simple. Herman Cain represents truth. Truth can be devastating such as the great Oz is only a man behind a curtain pulling levers, Soylent Green is people, and the greatest enemy of black Americans is the Democratic Party.

Articles: Herman Cain: Runaway Slave
 

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http://sandrarose.com/category/barack-obama/
 

damngrumpy

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Of course the President is behind at this stage of the game. However if you listen
to Cain for a few minutes you soon realize Sarah Palin would make a better person
for the Republicans and that is not saying much. I hope they do nominate this guy
he will be cannon fodder for the Democrats. His joke did not go well, explained
his taxing of the middle class has not gone well and on CNN he looked like a deer
in the headlights, trying to explain his positions on things. Even Mitt Romney must
be encouraged at this point. Republicans choose this guy, they are dead meat.
The general public will soon figure him out and long before election day I might add.
The people have also begun to figure out the obstructionist Tea Party as well and
this will of course help the President. There is no one on the Republican side that
can come close at this point. Remember also Cain is a popular vote guy in the
Republican Party, he also has no financial backing and will likely write a book and
get rich while Romney gets hammered in the election.
Sorry but at this stage one can't put any faith in a trend, at least not for an upstart
with little if any political strength.
 

WLDB

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I doubt it'll happen. Though it would be interesting if it did. Imagine that, two black men heading the major parties in a presidential election. 10 years ago that would've seemed impossible.
 

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What would be better is to have two sane Black men running for the top job.
Only Obama is not full of the stuff of the Republican nominee The behaviour
of the Republican hopefuls with few exceptions is not doing things in the
interest of Americans, They are catering to the most self centered of all the
special interest groups.
Republicans are squarely on the side of the Biggest Businesses, the Medical
Industry, The Big Insurance Companies and the Wall Street Crowd. Oh I
know they pay the lip service, the no bail outs and that, but even the Republican
mainstream understands the fifteen minutes of fame for the Tea Party is about
to expire and they can get back to servicing their financial friends again.
The Occupy Wall Street movement is about to over shadow the Tea party and
everyone knows it. They have struck a chord, those insensitive rich basta**s
are the ones to blame. That is what will move people. There is now someone
with a real face to blame. Anyone who stands up for them in the coming
months will be tarred with the same brush.
Cain is a buffoon, he made the electrocution statements about the southern fence
in Navada, a largely Hispanic populated State HOW DUMB, it will cost him big
time as the campaign goes on James Carville will be able to do a lot to discredit
this candidate and a couple of others and he is likely chomping at the bit to start.
 

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It's a national poll from Rasmussen Reports, which doesn't have any credibility.

Rasmussen Polls Were Biased and Inaccurate; Quinnipiac, SurveyUSA Performed Strongly - NYTimes.com

"The 105 polls released in Senate and gubernatorial races by Rasmussen Reports and its subsidiary, Pulse Opinion Research, missed the final margin between the candidates by 5.8 points, a considerably higher figure than that achieved by most other pollsters. Some 13 of its polls missed by 10 or more points, including one in the Hawaii Senate race that missed the final margin between the candidates by 40 points, the largest error ever recorded in a general election in FiveThirtyEight’s database, which includes all polls conducted since 1998.



"Moreover, Rasmussen’s polls were quite biased, overestimating the standing of the Republican candidate by almost 4 points on average. In just 12 cases, Rasmussen’s polls overestimated the margin for the Democrat by 3 or more points. But it did so for the Republican candidate in 55 cases — that is, in more than half of the polls that it issued.

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"The discrepancies between Rasmussen Reports polls and those issued by other companies were apparent from virtually the first day that Barack Obama took office. Rasmussen showed Barack Obama’s disapproval rating at 36 percent, for instance, just a week after his inauguration, at a point when no other pollster had that figure higher than 20 percent."
 

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Walter's link says the left has made an all out assault on Cain. That is incorrect - so far it is the Republicans who have crucified him in those public debates. Once the real debates begin we will then see if he can stand up to intense scrutiny.
 

ironsides

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Nothing would change that drastically, no one man (at least no one running now) has the charisma or business sense to be their own person. Those running the country now will still be running the country in 2012. There are no mystical messiahs out there.
 

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Nothing would change that drastically, no one man (at least no one running now) has the charisma or business sense to be their own person. Those running the country now will still be running the country in 2012. There are no mystical messiahs out there.


I think that is the sad truth of Obama's first term: regardless of good intentions, the office of president does not have the power to make sweeping change, which many feel is necessary. On top of that, Congress is so divided by partisan and regional interests that it won't make any changes either. The Republicans have a slight advantage in that their message as a party tends to be more unified, but even they are facing divides in the form of traditional fiscal conservatives vs social conservatives vs Tea Partiers.

I don't think Herman Cain is more than a flash in the pan at this point: for all the protests to the contrary, there are a lot of old-school Southern Republican power brokers who don't see blacks as equals and won't support him. Its some of the same racial undertones that surface from time to time in the Tea Partiers. Hell, just look at how he was under fire because he openly called Rick Perry's hunting camp by its name, "N*gger Head" (thus invoking the N word), as opposed to people questioning Perry's background that he and his family/cronies would call the place that. A lot of Cain's popularity is also bound in simplistic slogans (the 9-9-9 thing is a bad idea, regardless of the need for tax reform... not to mention the hay comics will make mocking it as "nein, nein, nein"). He needs a deeper platform to be taken seriously; he's like a Republican Al Sharpton, only his craziness manifests itself differently.
 

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Of course the President is behind at this stage of the game. However if you listen
to Cain for a few minutes you soon realize Sarah Palin would make a better person
for the Republicans and that is not saying much. I hope they do nominate this guy
he will be cannon fodder for the Democrats. .

Has there been a GOP candidate yet that you have not made this "cannon fodder" claim about?

I hope they nominate Cain too... and not because I think he'll be cannon fodder.

but even the Republican
mainstream understands the fifteen minutes of fame for the Tea Party is about
to expire

Yeah... we keep hearing that from the Libs down here.

The Occupy Wall Street movement is about to over shadow the Tea party and
everyone knows it. They have struck a chord, those insensitive rich basta**s
are the ones to blame. That is what will move people. There is now someone
with a real face to blame. Anyone who stands up for them in the coming
months will be tarred with the same brush.

Don't be foolish. They are already talking about the Democrats trying to distance themselves from this rabble. Sitting on their butts looking for handouts and more freebies while they steal from each other and make a nuisance of themselves.
 

CDNBear

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Welcome to change.
I figured by now, you'd understand sarcasm.

It really is time to floss, pumpkin.

Walter's link says the left has made an all out assault on Cain. That is incorrect - so far it is the Republicans who have crucified him in those public debates. Once the real debates begin we will then see if he can stand up to intense scrutiny.
That's just because all Republicans are neoKKKons.

Everyone knows that.
 

Icarus27k

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An excerpt from a Lloyd Marcus column:

Why has the left launched a stop-at-all-cost political hit on Herman Cain? The answer is quite simple. Herman Cain represents truth. Truth can be devastating such as the great Oz is only a man behind a curtain pulling levers, Soylent Green is people, and the greatest enemy of black Americans is the Democratic Party.

Articles: Herman Cain: Runaway Slave


Yeah, Cain is battling fellow conservatives/Republicans right now, not "the left". Some of these conservatives/Republicans have good, legit cricitisms of Cain.

 

ironsides

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I think that is the sad truth of Obama's first term: regardless of good intentions, the office of president does not have the power to make sweeping change, which many feel is necessary. On top of that, Congress is so divided by partisan and regional interests that it won't make any changes either. The Republicans have a slight advantage in that their message as a party tends to be more unified, but even they are facing divides in the form of traditional fiscal conservatives vs social conservatives vs Tea Partiers.

I don't think Herman Cain is more than a flash in the pan at this point: for all the protests to the contrary, there are a lot of old-school Southern Republican power brokers who don't see blacks as equals and won't support him. Its some of the same racial undertones that surface from time to time in the Tea Partiers. Hell, just look at how he was under fire because he openly called Rick Perry's hunting camp by its name, "N*gger Head" (thus invoking the N word), as opposed to people questioning Perry's background that he and his family/cronies would call the place that. A lot of Cain's popularity is also bound in simplistic slogans (the 9-9-9 thing is a bad idea, regardless of the need for tax reform... not to mention the hay comics will make mocking it as "nein, nein, nein"). He needs a deeper platform to be taken seriously; he's like a Republican Al Sharpton, only his craziness manifests itself differently.


Oh defiantly, what most are mad about is all those stimulus packages going to corporations so their executives could receive those enormous bonuses. Lets not forget the outsourcing of pretty much all the civilian manufacturing jobs. About the only thing we have left is the defense industry, and they are laying off thousands now. Wall Street runs just about every politician including President Obama. What can be done, who knows, don't want to think about the unthinkable.


As for Herman Cain, he probably won't make it, then again I thought that about President Obama. If he does become the Republican candidate, he stands a very good chance of becoming President. 999 will not be our ne2w tax code though. :)

 

gopher

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Everyone knows that.

And antichrists, too. ;)


Yeah, Cain is battling fellow conservatives/Republicans right now, not "the left". Some of these conservatives/Republicans have good, legit cricitisms of Cain.

Yup. Don't know where Marcus dreamed up that story as he has not been touched by Democrats.