Nope, not willing to waste my time on someone that isn't interested. Someone that speaks like they already know all the answers and is obviously closed minded towards any other way but their own.
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Why Obama is not a Christian
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Nope, not willing to waste my time on someone that isn't interested. Someone that speaks like they already know all the answers and is obviously closed minded towards any other way but their own.
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Obama is not a Christian? That would be nice if it were true, but I suspect he is just a superstitious as the average American.
Yup, the man lived his life exactly as Christ would have wanted. He is right where he should be, and it ain't "hell".
How does that work? How can superstition and rejection of religion both be growing? They are polar opposites.
WHO AM I MOCKING?!!!! I'm pointing out the fact that a leader of powerful nation is claiming to be something he's not! He's in the public spotlight and therefore fair game!
We're on a forum where people talk about this stuff for crying out loud!
You want to see mocking and disrespect? Step out into the real world buddy and tell people how much you love Christ, what he has done for you and what he can do for the them. HAVE FUN WATCHING THE POWERS OF DARKNESS AND HATE RISE UP IN THEIR SPIRITS, CONDEMN YOU, SPIT IN YOUR FACE AND CURSE THE VERY NAME OF THE GOD YOU LOVE! THEN YOU'LL KNOW WHAT REAL DISRESPECT AND MOCKING IS! ...BROTHER!!!!
Losing it I see. I'll step back and let you calm down. I'll come back and check in tomorrow since you seem to be having a problem keeping it together this evening.
The punks today are less agnostic. They're making up their mind early, thinking they have the all the answers all by themselves. They either have embraced the truth that is Jesus Christ or they've allowed themselves to become tools for the enemy. The battle today is for those precious young minds.
And your question should be "How can acceptance and rejection of religion both be growing?". Calling believers superstitous is disrespectful .
I'm calm, I'm calm... I'm just passionate, that's all. Come back...
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In the extremely unlikely event that Judgment Day as you understand it ever happens, I am not going to be ashamed. I've done the best I could within my limits, tried to live a good life and be a good person, and if that counts for nothing I'm going to be angry and I'll make no attempt to be humble or contrite. It'll already be too late for me anyway, by your lights, nothing I could do at that point could make things any worse for me, might as well get it off my chest. What's he going to do, condemn me for eternity plus a week?
And as you know, I don't for a second believe that your religious beliefs have anything to do with reality anyway, and I don't think it matters a whit whether Barak Obama is or is not a Christian by the narrow definitions of Christian fundamentalism.
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I'm 3 kinds of Christian and one part Jew. 4 of a kind beats an ace high hands down.
Why is it disrespectful and why do you think it is mocking you? Is your faith that weak?
Do you believe in Jesus or John Darby?
lol... what a ludicrous discussion.
The man says he's Christian. Plenty of people say they are. Some say they aren't and yet do a better job of it than judgemental zealots. If you believe in the Bible at all, you know that it's to God to decide, and only God. Sitting here worrying about who is and isn't, and in what magical combinations, rather than focusing on oneself, isn't going to get you anywhere, least of all into heaven.
The man says he's Christian. Plenty of people say they are. Some say they aren't and yet do a better job of it than judgemental zealots. If you believe in the Bible at all, you know that it's to God to decide, and only God. Sitting here worrying about who is and isn't, and in what magical combinations, rather than focusing on oneself, isn't going to get you anywhere, least of all into heaven.
When did God add dispensationalism to his repertoier and biblography or did some guy come up with it all by his crazy lonesome?
Meet John Nelson Darby....
John Nelson Darby - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Meet John Nelson Darby....
John Nelson Darby - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Of course, the guy from the video is completely misinterpreting the "narrow path" verse from Matthew, saying it refers to some mental affirmation of Christianity's beliefs about who Jesus is when the verse is really about ethical conduct in conformity with the Sermon on the Mount..
But whatever
But whatever
"We can measure the damage done by the rapist and murderer but we have no way to assess the damage done by the self righteous." - Allan Watts
The narrow path is one that was set out for the individual, the spiritual path. The wide path is the path of religion where great numbers try to get to heaven down some super highway. I know plenty of Christians who take the narrow path laid out before them. It is not easy. It requires real faith, not some belief system. People from just about every religion do the same. It is not about belief. Belief is just a vehicle, a personal vehicle, to get you home. Judge not means exactly that. Another person's path is none of your business. It has nothing to do with you.
As I have said before, there is something fundamentally wrong with fundamentalism (and fundamentalists). A person who needs to attempt to convert others to their way of thinking is not secure in their own beliefs because they require others to validate them. There is no strength in number, your faith stands on its own merits or it falls. Like anything else, you fall, you get back up and try again. That is what life is about, trial and error. The only person that is going to judge you is you. God/Creator/Allah does not care how you get home, as long as you eventually do. There is not just one path, there is just one path for each person.
People who are as fanatic as you, Alley, are the type of people who eventually get disgusted with their fellow man because they can never live up to your expectations of yourself and eventually strap on some explosives to send all them failures to hell. I got news for you, their is no heaven and there is no hell, just what you make of this life. You will know you are on the right path if it makes you feel good, and if it feels bad (like having people mock you for your self righteous bigotry) then you are on the wrong path. How other people relate to their creator is none of your business. Your only concern, when it comes to spiritual matters, is your own "salvation". You don't get any brownie points for annoying others with your beliefs.
The narrow path is one that was set out for the individual, the spiritual path. The wide path is the path of religion where great numbers try to get to heaven down some super highway. I know plenty of Christians who take the narrow path laid out before them. It is not easy. It requires real faith, not some belief system. People from just about every religion do the same. It is not about belief. Belief is just a vehicle, a personal vehicle, to get you home. Judge not means exactly that. Another person's path is none of your business. It has nothing to do with you.
As I have said before, there is something fundamentally wrong with fundamentalism (and fundamentalists). A person who needs to attempt to convert others to their way of thinking is not secure in their own beliefs because they require others to validate them. There is no strength in number, your faith stands on its own merits or it falls. Like anything else, you fall, you get back up and try again. That is what life is about, trial and error. The only person that is going to judge you is you. God/Creator/Allah does not care how you get home, as long as you eventually do. There is not just one path, there is just one path for each person.
People who are as fanatic as you, Alley, are the type of people who eventually get disgusted with their fellow man because they can never live up to your expectations of yourself and eventually strap on some explosives to send all them failures to hell. I got news for you, their is no heaven and there is no hell, just what you make of this life. You will know you are on the right path if it makes you feel good, and if it feels bad (like having people mock you for your self righteous bigotry) then you are on the wrong path. How other people relate to their creator is none of your business. Your only concern, when it comes to spiritual matters, is your own "salvation". You don't get any brownie points for annoying others with your beliefs.
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The man lived and preached tollerance and peace......geez if that gets you to hell then .....what's the point of trying?
Then you'll just have to put up with my disrespect. I regard all non-fact based supernatural beliefs as superstitions and that includes every religion.
Below is a definition of superstition taken from the Online Dictionary. I believe it fits most religions.
A belief, practice, or rite irrationally maintained by ignorance of the laws of nature or by faith in magic or chance.
I always thought you are not supposed to mix religion with politics- guess the naysayers are getting desperate. :lol:
People find the damndest things to worry about. :lol:
People find the damndest things to worry about. :lol:
Better get used to it because your type of Christian (yes, I said "your" type as there are many) will be few and far between in the Oval Office after the debacle that was George Dubya Bush.
Who gave you a copyright on the word Christian. The simple fact is that there are many interpretations of the Bible. Yours is no more or less valid than mine.
...according to you but again, show me your copyright.
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Do you honestly think that anyone who is in the body of Christ would want a false Christian leading in anyway shape or form? Anywhere from the community church all the way to the oval office? There's no fraud allowed!
And that is why John Nelson Darby is a massive fraud. 60,000,000 (only north americans) Evangelicals only give credit to other massive frauds like Joseph Smith.
At least the Mormosexuals get magic underwear out of the deal. What do Evaglelicals get out of their fraud? Egg on their face?