What's wrong with Socialism ?
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Those who can think for themselves probably do, but not the others who can't..... and unfortunatly, they breed too.
Are those personal insults I see outside of the Steel Cage Avro? Are you a Mod? *Tisk tisk*
Yer some lucky I ain't got mod status outside of the Art & Design..... yeah yeah.... back to my hole in the cave I go.
Yer some lucky I ain't got mod status outside of the Art & Design..... yeah yeah.... back to my hole in the cave I go.
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As near as I can figure, the only wrong in socialism exists in the minds of greedy buggers who fear some of their loot may be plundered.
That about sums it up...
In addition, it is this fear of loss of acquisitions and a healthy dose of ignorance that leads the greedy buggers to label socialism as communism or fascism...
They might not be the smartest lot, but they are the loudest...
Capitalisms remaining time as exploiter of choice for the rulers is drawing to an expensive brutal end. We are expected to believe that the present systemic failure is simply a downturn brought on by lazy union workers and irresponsible consumers when in fact it is the closing act of the latest engineered asset consolodation period brought to you by internationalist bankers. Stability in social structure is their enemy, public efficiency is their enemy the public itself is their enemy. Capitalism is about to turn up the war machinery and clear the board for the next game in the death cycle. They hope we will march to war and forget again and that they will be able to hide behind the mountains of bodies and the flags just as they've always done.
The number one enemy of mankind is unregulated capitalism. We can have capitalism or we can have peace but we can't have both.
The number one enemy of mankind is unregulated capitalism. We can have capitalism or we can have peace but we can't have both.
Which is exactly why I have always been against Capitalism and feel it should be abolished completely..... it may bring about a rough time for humanity, but it will not be anywhere close to the rough time that will come when Capitalism is milked of all it's benifits and comes crashing down.
Ok, I always hear this crud,
What exactly is your opposition to Capitalism. Capitalism basically stems to three very core beliefs.
1.) what you produce is yours.
2.) When you die you can leave your things to other people.
3.) You are free to make any deal you wish with other people , so long as no force is used.
Thats capitalism in a nutshell, what exactly is it you want to carve away that is so deplorable?
What exactly is your opposition to Capitalism. Capitalism basically stems to three very core beliefs.
1.) what you produce is yours.
2.) When you die you can leave your things to other people.
3.) You are free to make any deal you wish with other people , so long as no force is used.
Thats capitalism in a nutshell, what exactly is it you want to carve away that is so deplorable?
What is your alternative?
Cuba, USSR, North Korea, Vietnam, China?
Capitalism is fine as long as it is regulated, under pure socialism nobody will create jobs or move us forward.
I know you may hate those who have made lot's of money without relying on government but those very people create jobs and wealth.
Good points Zzarchov, as usual !
I'd like to add that when business cycles go horribly bad, laissez-faire can be suicide.
We need thoughtful manipulation and regulation of the markets, but most of all we need the market !!
We need the essentialness of capitalism, without which, there's nothing to fight over.
We also don't need to hold to ideology so rigidly that regulation kills the market, nor do we need to hold on to the ideology of laissez-faire that society immolates itself.
And our standards for helping should be fair. Do we help white collar and ignore blue collar?
Practicality over ideology.
Pure socialists and Pure Laissez-faire people are just voyeurs who have not felt the burning hell of their own ideologies.
I'd like to add that when business cycles go horribly bad, laissez-faire can be suicide.
We need thoughtful manipulation and regulation of the markets, but most of all we need the market !!
We need the essentialness of capitalism, without which, there's nothing to fight over.
We also don't need to hold to ideology so rigidly that regulation kills the market, nor do we need to hold on to the ideology of laissez-faire that society immolates itself.
And our standards for helping should be fair. Do we help white collar and ignore blue collar?
Practicality over ideology.
Pure socialists and Pure Laissez-faire people are just voyeurs who have not felt the burning hell of their own ideologies.
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And that's capitalism from a nut. Those traditions aren't capitalist. Capitalism is inefficient for the purpose, a proven dismal perenial failure except in one sector only, and that won't get us where we want to go, ever. Capitalism is a serious human disease.
We need the market? We will never have the market freely Jim, that belongs to the elite, the burning hell of capitalism has been felt by billions for centurys Jim. Collars are for dogs.The essential of capitalism is unfettered exploitation of the species. It's a real pig Jim.
PS; i got some investment tips for you and Zzarchov, buy GM
All this millions and billions of hours of capitalist moaning about the evils of socialism is product support only. What do you expect liars and thieves to say. They always advocate cutting the middle out, in the case of the publics long term viability capitalists are the expensive needless nonproductive middle. And all their crowing about supplying jobs and income, get real people unemployments better for them than full employment, capitalists are terrified of competition, nobody needs them they're a parasiticle organic expression of vulgar logic. They create nothing but chaos. Where is the free world Praxius?:smile:
Darkbeaver, with the three tenants of capitalism, explain which ones you would like to see cut out to destroy capitalism.
1.) what you produce is yours.
2.) When you die you can leave your things to other people.
3.) You are free to make any deal you wish with other people , so long as no force is used.
What part of that equation is it you think needs to be stopped most?
1.) what you produce is yours.
2.) When you die you can leave your things to other people.
3.) You are free to make any deal you wish with other people , so long as no force is used.
What part of that equation is it you think needs to be stopped most?