What Are the Consequences of Obama Failing?
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If Obama fails in his quest to socialize the enonomy of the US it will be because he didn't fix Bush's mess? If Obama fails in his quest to nationalize the finacial system it will be because he didn't clean up Bush's mess? If Obama fails to nationalize the Auto industry it will be because he didn't deal with Bush's legacy?
Sorry, no matter which angle I look at it from, I can't see the connection.
Sorry, no matter which angle I look at it from, I can't see the connection.
Doesn't matter. He does show up on the news now and then. Your hero was a loud-mouthed shnook 10 years ago, and earlier this year it didn't look like he'd changed. Also saw a clip of him on Jon Stewart's show.
I'd match wits with you any day, Peewee. Unfortunately you haven't displayed any yet at CC so I'll be a nice guy.
BTW, he is fat. He must be lazy or he wouldn't be fat. S'what happens when all you do is sit in front of a mic all day and shoot your mouth off.
Sorry. I'm centrist and I wouldn't envy that mouthpiece. I'm honest, hard-working, retired, and don't make a living ranting about stuff.
I am all that, thank you. I do quite nicely with my earnings. And what I earned was done by helping people, not raving like a lunatic on tv and radio.
You understand what what Gopher was getting at? Great. He doesn't seem to be around so maybe you could explain this to me:
If Obama fails in his quest to socialize the enonomy of the US it will be because he didn't fix Bush's mess? If Obama fails in his quest to nationalize the finacial system it will be because he didn't clean up Bush's mess? If Obama fails to nationalize the Auto industry it will be because he didn't deal with Bush's legacy?
Sorry, no matter which angle I look at it from, I can't see the connection.
If Obama fails in his quest to socialize the enonomy of the US it will be because he didn't fix Bush's mess? If Obama fails in his quest to nationalize the finacial system it will be because he didn't clean up Bush's mess? If Obama fails to nationalize the Auto industry it will be because he didn't deal with Bush's legacy?
Sorry, no matter which angle I look at it from, I can't see the connection.
Gopher has a tendency to blame things like rain on Bush. He exaggerates. But Bush's admin did help cause quite a mess with his deregulation.
I consider Bush to have been somewhat incompetent as president, but Obama's agenda (that conservatives want him to fail at) is the imposition of his ideology on the US. Suggesting that failure to impose his agenda could only be caused by not dealing with Bush's legacy? Makes no sense at all. You halfways agreed with that. HUH?
Perhaps I misunderstood gopher then. I thought he was at least partially blaming Bush (again) for the economic mess in the US and tyhat if Obama doesn't see the mess rectified in the US in his 1 or 2 terms, then it was because Bush left it in too big of a mess..
But that's a different topic. We were talking about Republicans wanting Obama to fail. What do they want him to fail at? What he's doing. What is he doing? Imposing his agenda.
Nonsense. That's the invention of SJP, has nothing to do with what Republicans really want him to fail at.
Perhaps, Gilbert. But what business is it of anybody what I call myself? I am fond of Gilbert and Sullivan; I like the character of Sir Joseph Porter from HMS Pinafore (a vain, pompous blowhard). Just to please somebody I am supposed to drop ‘Sir’ from the character’s name?
In the canada.com forum there was a poster who called himself Zeus, it didn’t bother anybody. It is nobody’s business what I call myself, as long as I don’t include obscenity or vulgarity in my name.
So I haven’t come across anybody saying that my name offended them, but if it does offend somebody, I may very well consider calling myself ‘Right Honourable Sir Joseph Porter’.
Extrafire, Republicans want Obama’s policies to fail, many of them have said that. Obama’s policies are designed to get the country (and the world) out of the economic morass largely caused by Bush and the Republicans.
If Obama’s policies fail, that means they also fail in producing the desired outcome, a speedy economic recovery. Now it is highly unlikely that Obama’s policies will be neutral to economy. When such a massive amount of money is pumped into the economy, it is going have an effect, for the good or the bad.
So if Obama’s policies fail, that means that nothing good will come out of his economic policies. That means we are looking at considerable worsening of economic conditions, from a deep recession to outright depression.
Failure of Obama’s economic policies means 25% unemployment and 20% inflation. When Republicans loudly proclaim that they hope Obama fails, they are hoping for his economic policies to fail and thus are hoping for 25% unemployment and 20% inflation. And all this just so that can win back the power.
In the end, it looks as if the Democrats are willing to lead Obama to the sacrificial altar. I have heard nothing in terms of debate or input from any of the vocal democrats to date. It seems that Obama is the only person that can't see this train wreck about to happen.
The Dems control both houses SJP... What the Republicans say means nothing other than fodder for your speculation. The Democrats, on the other hand can do something, if they wanted.... It is evident that they aren't interested in doing anything pro-active and are willing to push unemployment to 25% and inflation to 20%.
The Republicans gave up the race one week before the election. They knew that whoever took power would be at the helm of an economic Titanic and will be soundly thrashed by the electorate for many elections to come.
The Dems were/are so shuttered in their view that they can't see the whole picture... Much like the manner in which you implicated yourself as a Fundamentalist Christian (on another thread), the Democrats have unwittingly sown the seeds of the demise of their party (kinda like the Cdn Liberals - agreed?)
Nope..
Op's but then I consider myself just another CC person now.. Not C.com
I consider you "just another CC person now" too. The post was directed toward they who are still trying to make C.com over into C.C.....;-)
Captain, the bottom line is this: Obama and the Democrats are implementing their agenda; there is not a thing Republicans can do about it. If the agenda succeeds, we come out of the recession next year. If it fails, we get 25% unemployment, 20% inflation and Republicans come back to power.
Most of the reasonable people are hoping that Obama succeeds. Diehard Republicans (like Limbaugh and others) are hoping that Obama fails and USA ends up with 25% unemployment and 20% inflation.
the Democrats have unwittingly sown the seeds of the demise of their party (kinda like the Cdn Liberals - agreed?)
OK, so are you predicting that in four years the Democratic Party will be dead? OK, I will hold you to it, I will copy this post and store it on my hard disk (as I have copied Yukon Jack’s, post, confidently predicting that Republicans will gain control of Senate and House in 2010 and will win the presidency in 2012, I am going to hold him to it), and dig it up in four years, when presumably Democratic Party will be dead, Republican Party will be the only party remaining and USA will have a one party rule perpetually (oh, the happy days!).
So, you think Liberal party is dead, do you? Do you also think that the Messiah will now rule in perpetuity? You are evidently confusing Canada with Alberta. Paradise (in the form of perpetual conservative, far right, religious right rule) appeared in Alberta a long time ago. Unfortunately for you (and fortunately for rest of Canada), Hell will appear on earth soon enough in the form of Liberal rule.
Anyway, Liberals governed for 13 years; let us see low long your Messiah rules.
Most of the reasonable people are hoping that Obama succeeds. Diehard Republicans (like Limbaugh and others) are hoping that Obama fails and USA ends up with 25% unemployment and 20% inflation.
the Democrats have unwittingly sown the seeds of the demise of their party (kinda like the Cdn Liberals - agreed?)
OK, so are you predicting that in four years the Democratic Party will be dead? OK, I will hold you to it, I will copy this post and store it on my hard disk (as I have copied Yukon Jack’s, post, confidently predicting that Republicans will gain control of Senate and House in 2010 and will win the presidency in 2012, I am going to hold him to it), and dig it up in four years, when presumably Democratic Party will be dead, Republican Party will be the only party remaining and USA will have a one party rule perpetually (oh, the happy days!).
So, you think Liberal party is dead, do you? Do you also think that the Messiah will now rule in perpetuity? You are evidently confusing Canada with Alberta. Paradise (in the form of perpetual conservative, far right, religious right rule) appeared in Alberta a long time ago. Unfortunately for you (and fortunately for rest of Canada), Hell will appear on earth soon enough in the form of Liberal rule.
Anyway, Liberals governed for 13 years; let us see low long your Messiah rules.
So, let me get this straight, if Obama tries to solve the economic mess, he's imposing socialism on the U.S.. When Harper mindlessly copies these policies its sound economic planning.