They are sniffing around the idea of a basic income. Just what we need. Turn Canada into a welfare state.
WE really need to get rid of this guy
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Hold everything. BNN reporting Trudeau is best suited to lead through the pandemic. Can't tell you how good that news actually is. Must be some taxes I can pay somewhere.
This is pretty damaging information the Lib caucus trying to end run the The House of Commons law clerk, and get called on it.
Commons law clerk says government went too far in redacting WE Charity documents
Commons law clerk says government went too far in redacting WE Charity documents
"...a spokesperson for the Prime Minister's Office told CBC News that the redactions were done by the parliamentary law clerk, .." Who is this 'spokesperson' and was it their idea to outright lie about the redactions or do the lies lie higher up?
Spokesunits are great. They're unvetted, undergo no kind of scrutiny for honesty or conflict of interest, and you just wheel one out, have 'em spout off, then wheel 'em back into the depths of the government building.
Next time, you wheel out a different one.
That's called "not giving the enemy a target." "The enemy," of course, being the people they were elected to serve.
Next time, you wheel out a different one.
That's called "not giving the enemy a target." "The enemy," of course, being the people they were elected to serve.
The House of Commons law clerk says public servants went too far in redacting the WE Charity documents released to MPs last week — and warns the cuts may have violated a production order from the finance committee to hand over all internal correspondence related to the summer student grants program.
The government released thousands of pages of documents related to the WE matter, as the committee requested last month. But rather than have the independent law clerk redact certain information, such as cabinet confidences and personal information, the various departments responsible for this aborted program did the blackouts themselves — an apparent contravention of the committee's request.
"Wait! Nope! Not Aliens....just the Larentian Elite (or other members of Justin & Sofie's Wedding Party). Nothing to see here folks. Move along. Prorogue...Prorogue...Prorogue!!!"
Not seeing why anything should be redacted in documents demanded by a parliamentary committee looking into the malfeasance involved in said documents. How are supposed to do an investigation when only the parts the guilty party wants you to see are available.
That is why we get crooked parliamentarians, the rules are set up to protect them .
Actually, the rules are set up (if they are followed) to prevent (or try to) this exact sort of thing from happening....
The last TWO times PM Justin Trudeau was found guilty of an ethics violation, the RC's did nothing and the penalty was a $500 max fine (if it's actually imposed) which equals about 1/2400th of his Trust Fund...so if the guy has no issue committing ethics violations....it's not much of a deterrent. It's not like Justin ordered a $16 glass of Orange Juice or anything....and to date has Justin Trudeau ever had to pay anything for either of the ethics violations that he's been found guilty of so far?
Justin Trudeau was found to have broken multiple corruption laws for accepting a 2016 Christmas vacation on the Aga Khan's private island. The ruling made Trudeau the first Prime Minister in Canadian history to break federal ethics law.
Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner Mario Dion investigation into the allegation that the Prime Minister's Office interfered with the Justice Department's probe of Quebec construction giant SNC-Lavalin by pressuring former Attorney General Jody Wilson-Raybould to consider a deferred prosecution agreement. Minister of Veterans Affairs Jody Wilson-Raybould resigned from Justin Trudeau's cabinet, she was the Attorney General at the time of the alleged interference. Gerald Butts, the Principal Secretary to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau categorically denied the accusation and resigned. Jane Philpott, one of Justin Trudeau's most trusted ministers, resigned as President of the Treasury Board. The Ethics Commissioner ruled in August 2019 that the Prime Minister’s team had breached ethics rules and that Trudeau and his officials had tried in 2018 to undermine a decision by federal prosecutors.
A Prorogued Government is really a one way street
WE calls latest Conservative request for documents 'politics'
WE calls latest Conservative request for documents 'politics'
Trudeau Says Canadians Can Judge His Ethics Record During 'Campaigns'
OTTAWA — Prime Minister Justin Trudeau brushed off a question about his ethical compass Wednesday, saying Canadians will have an opportunity to draw conclusions on his record in “election campaigns.”
Trudeau made the comment during an interview on CBC Radio’s “The Early Edition” after host Stephen Quinn asked if it’s fair for Canadians to wonder about their prime minister’s sense of right and wrong, particularly in light of the WE Charity controversy and multiple Conflict of Interest Act violations.
The prime minister chalked up that kind of flak to partisan politics.
“I think that’s certainly something that a lot of people are talking about in opposition,” Trudeau said. “And Canadians will make their determinations in election campaigns.”
He said his government is “totally focused on doing the right things for Canadians,” and referenced the “historic amounts of supports” the Liberals introduced to buttress the widespread economic shocks due to stay-at-home orders because of the COVID-19 pandemic.
Trudeau struck a campaign tone in his interview, blaming “the right” for political pushback on the topic of safe-injection sites. Yet, he chose not to support a recommendation by seven chief public health officers to decriminalize illicit drugs, calling the proposal “not a silver bullet” to address the province’s ongoing opioid overdose crisis. He said a comprehensive health-care approach was needed
He also lambasted Conservatives for being critical about emergency COVID-19 spending.
The prime minister repeated points he has previously made to justify the decision to prorogue Parliament last month, explaining the pandemic has forced the government to update its priorities.
Total frickin' bullshit there - a sitting House is of prime importance during a pandemic.
A new throne speech is expected to be delivered Sept. 23, followed shortly by a confidence vote that if the Liberal minority government loses, would trigger a fall election.
“I know British Columbians understand that we need to go much more aggressively towards a greener economy,” he said, appealing to the western audience of the Vancouver-based show.
LOL.............preaching to the choir on the lower mainland.........would never had the guts to hold a virtual meeting in the North or Interior of our province.
“That’s why prorogation and the throne speech, which will allow opposition parties to weigh in on whether or not they agree with the new direction we’re taking for building back Canada is fundamentally an important thing in our democracy.”
Excuse me???? A sitting Parliament would have allowed Opposition parties to do exactly the same thing - difference being they would be able to question the government.
The interview was part of the prime minister’s virtual tour of British Columbia. Trudeau’s summertime tradition of visiting the region in-person was thwarted this year due to coronavirus pandemic-related travel and physical-distancing restrictions.
"...the prime minister's virtual tour of British Columbia."
Uh, huh..........I guess the Left Coast is now representative of the Entire province eh.
And then...........he doubled down with this gem
Trudeau defends ‘excellent’ Governor General
The prime minister continued his virtual B.C. tour with a radio interview with REDFM Vancouver’s Harjinder Thind where questions about the WE Charity controversy and the government’s plan to manage a record $343.2-billion deficit followed him.
Asked about the allegations of workplace harassment and verbal abuse at Rideau Hall, Trudeau defended Governor General Julie Payette and said he has no immediate plans to get the Queen involved.
So all those employees who have spoken up about work-place abuse are what? Liars? Misinformed? Out to lunch?
“We have an excellent Governor General right now and I think, on top of the COVID crisis, nobody is looking at any constitutional crises,” The prime minister said.
“We have put in place a process to review some of the working conditions at Rideau Hall, but that’s not something that we’re contemplating right now.”
Details of that process were announced Tuesday when the Privy Council Office confirmed it hired a third-party firm, Ottawa-based Quintet Consulting Corp., to conduct an investigation into workplace harassment allegations first reported by CBC News.
The Ottawa firm was previously hired in 2015 to investigate workplace harassment allegations in former senator Don Meredith’s office. Quintet’s final report was escalated to the Senate Ethics Office, spurring a formal inquiry into allegations that was completed in 2019. Meredith resigned in 2017.
Governor Generals are appointed by the Queen on the advice of the prime minister. They can be removed from the position by the Queen, on advice from the prime minister.
www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/trudeau-ethics-election-campaign_ca_5f4fffefc5b62b3add3b648d
How did we not see this coming with the preview before the last election?:
Rex Murphy at http://nationalpost.com/opinion/rex-murphy-why-the-we-spree-wont-go-quietly-the-way-of-other-liberal-mishandlings
with respect to this continuous goat rodeo:
It was only a couple of months ago, when Bill Morneau was still finance minister, that Justin Trudeau’s minority sought what was described as “sweeping new powers to unilaterally spend, borrow and tax Canadians without seeking Parliament’s approval.” They got caught out on that one — a grab for executive power utterly bypassing our House of Commons that was without precedent.
This bunch, who have chosen to completely disregard that they are a government contingent on support from other parties — i.e., a minority — took the denial in stride. Having already neutered Parliament (is it up on Airbnb yet?), and taken to the maceless cottage doorstep, Mr. Trudeau tossed money madly off in all directions (Stephen Leacock), with no restraints save his own whim and say-so.
According to the number I see most frequently, our deficit is expected to hit $343 billion. The public debt has passed for the first time the trillion-dollar mark, and is projected to hit $1.2 trillion by the end of the year. Which is to say, the Liberals may have failed to get an “open sesame,” bypassing Commons oversight, but echoing Hillary Clinton’s anguished “What difference, at this point, did it make?” they have spent like sailors from the proverb.
This is an established theme with this government. They may and can get caught, but let 24 hours and a few TV panels pass, and what difference does it make? They continue on — unashamed, unchanged, without regret or remorse — as if nothing has happened.
They were caught out on SNC-Lavalin and interfering with the highest principles of the rule of law after Trudeau categorically (“The allegations in the Globe story this morning are false”) denied the charge. Ministers Jody Wilson-Raybould and Jane Philpott, two outstanding presences in his cabinet, found themselves — I think this is a fair way of phrasing it — resigned from the government. Wilson-Raybould and Philpott bore the consequences of, ironic isn’t it, “doing the right thing.” Meantime the good ship SS Trudeau went beguilingly on as per usual.
Can’t get the power to spend without Parliamentary approval? Fine, spend as you like anyway. Can’t bend the will of your justice minister? Deny you tried and then be found out? Fine — she’s gone, you’re still here.
More currently we have the saga of Canada’s two most famous humanitarians/real estate tycoons, brothers Craig and Marc Kielburger of WE. At one point they were — the deal having been closed — in charge of the distribution of almost $1 billion of public money. It was known that the two impresarios and Trudeau had long been associated. Their cringing WE Day revival meetings (that is my characterization) had Trudeau as a guest and a celebrity speaker for years. He gave them star power and legitimacy with young people. They gave him friction-free opportunities to wow upcoming voters and, note, their parents. It was a perfect alliance of interests, and one of the finest incarnations this country is ever likely to see of the beautiful axiom: you scratch my back, I’ll scratch yours. Mother, brother and wife of the PM were also seen to be part of and paid by WE or one of its legion of corporate tentacles.
They were caught. The notion that the “choice” to award administration of the Canada Student Service Grant program to the Kielburgers originated with the civil service was fully exploded. In quick succession then we had: contract cancelled; ludicrous attempt by Trudeau to claim he was the one who “pushed back” against the civil service; Morneau’s involvement revealed; Morneau’s resignation; and the establishment of a parliamentary committee to examine the curdling mess.
And finally the great capstone: Trudeau prorogues Parliament, amputates the committee hearings, and documents requested by the committee come in a lavishly blacked-out bundle. All is put into the limbo of suspended parliamentary function — again.
However, the WE spree won’t quietly go the way of other Liberal mishandlings.
The leader of the New Democratic Party, Charlie Angus … oops … it just seems like that, found a way around some of the blackouts, and evidence that the theory that the civil service was the implacable bulldozer behind the sole-source contract to WE was very poorly manufactured fluff. Angus has presented documents that demonstrate “the federal youth minister, Bardish Chagger, not the public service, drove the hiring of WE Charity.”
Meantime, the WE boys have refused the Tories’ request for other documents, saying — this is rich — it’s “politics, not proper process.” (Unplug the irony meter, it’s going to blow.) This from an organization that had numerous insider relationships, blitzed the civil services, aides and ministers, and had connections right to the PM himself — and still did not bother to register as lobbyists!
“Proper process?” From WE? Sanctimony, thy name is WE.
So maybe, with this particular botch, the old rule does not apply. Perhaps the clammy, we help our famous friends, we can do just what we like because we’re Liberals theme, has exhausted its power. Maybe this time, things cannot so effortlessly be skated by. And perhaps proroguing the House will have the effect of intensely highlighting all that is wrong in this story when Parliament — presuming the PMO says it’s OK — returns in September.
It’s not a sure thing, but the WE affair throws off a seediness that other scandals have not. It is somehow more provocative. It was done while COVID ravaged the country. While tens of thousands of small businesses were going down, while millions were dealing with anguish for their health, worry about their finances, one organization — with the best of insider connections — was getting special treatment, being rescued, by its pals in government.
That’s where the real sting lies.
Rex Murphy at http://nationalpost.com/opinion/rex-murphy-why-the-we-spree-wont-go-quietly-the-way-of-other-liberal-mishandlings
with respect to this continuous goat rodeo:
It was only a couple of months ago, when Bill Morneau was still finance minister, that Justin Trudeau’s minority sought what was described as “sweeping new powers to unilaterally spend, borrow and tax Canadians without seeking Parliament’s approval.” They got caught out on that one — a grab for executive power utterly bypassing our House of Commons that was without precedent.
This bunch, who have chosen to completely disregard that they are a government contingent on support from other parties — i.e., a minority — took the denial in stride. Having already neutered Parliament (is it up on Airbnb yet?), and taken to the maceless cottage doorstep, Mr. Trudeau tossed money madly off in all directions (Stephen Leacock), with no restraints save his own whim and say-so.
According to the number I see most frequently, our deficit is expected to hit $343 billion. The public debt has passed for the first time the trillion-dollar mark, and is projected to hit $1.2 trillion by the end of the year. Which is to say, the Liberals may have failed to get an “open sesame,” bypassing Commons oversight, but echoing Hillary Clinton’s anguished “What difference, at this point, did it make?” they have spent like sailors from the proverb.
This is an established theme with this government. They may and can get caught, but let 24 hours and a few TV panels pass, and what difference does it make? They continue on — unashamed, unchanged, without regret or remorse — as if nothing has happened.
They were caught out on SNC-Lavalin and interfering with the highest principles of the rule of law after Trudeau categorically (“The allegations in the Globe story this morning are false”) denied the charge. Ministers Jody Wilson-Raybould and Jane Philpott, two outstanding presences in his cabinet, found themselves — I think this is a fair way of phrasing it — resigned from the government. Wilson-Raybould and Philpott bore the consequences of, ironic isn’t it, “doing the right thing.” Meantime the good ship SS Trudeau went beguilingly on as per usual.
Can’t get the power to spend without Parliamentary approval? Fine, spend as you like anyway. Can’t bend the will of your justice minister? Deny you tried and then be found out? Fine — she’s gone, you’re still here.
More currently we have the saga of Canada’s two most famous humanitarians/real estate tycoons, brothers Craig and Marc Kielburger of WE. At one point they were — the deal having been closed — in charge of the distribution of almost $1 billion of public money. It was known that the two impresarios and Trudeau had long been associated. Their cringing WE Day revival meetings (that is my characterization) had Trudeau as a guest and a celebrity speaker for years. He gave them star power and legitimacy with young people. They gave him friction-free opportunities to wow upcoming voters and, note, their parents. It was a perfect alliance of interests, and one of the finest incarnations this country is ever likely to see of the beautiful axiom: you scratch my back, I’ll scratch yours. Mother, brother and wife of the PM were also seen to be part of and paid by WE or one of its legion of corporate tentacles.
They were caught. The notion that the “choice” to award administration of the Canada Student Service Grant program to the Kielburgers originated with the civil service was fully exploded. In quick succession then we had: contract cancelled; ludicrous attempt by Trudeau to claim he was the one who “pushed back” against the civil service; Morneau’s involvement revealed; Morneau’s resignation; and the establishment of a parliamentary committee to examine the curdling mess.
And finally the great capstone: Trudeau prorogues Parliament, amputates the committee hearings, and documents requested by the committee come in a lavishly blacked-out bundle. All is put into the limbo of suspended parliamentary function — again.
However, the WE spree won’t quietly go the way of other Liberal mishandlings.
The leader of the New Democratic Party, Charlie Angus … oops … it just seems like that, found a way around some of the blackouts, and evidence that the theory that the civil service was the implacable bulldozer behind the sole-source contract to WE was very poorly manufactured fluff. Angus has presented documents that demonstrate “the federal youth minister, Bardish Chagger, not the public service, drove the hiring of WE Charity.”
Meantime, the WE boys have refused the Tories’ request for other documents, saying — this is rich — it’s “politics, not proper process.” (Unplug the irony meter, it’s going to blow.) This from an organization that had numerous insider relationships, blitzed the civil services, aides and ministers, and had connections right to the PM himself — and still did not bother to register as lobbyists!
“Proper process?” From WE? Sanctimony, thy name is WE.
So maybe, with this particular botch, the old rule does not apply. Perhaps the clammy, we help our famous friends, we can do just what we like because we’re Liberals theme, has exhausted its power. Maybe this time, things cannot so effortlessly be skated by. And perhaps proroguing the House will have the effect of intensely highlighting all that is wrong in this story when Parliament — presuming the PMO says it’s OK — returns in September.
It’s not a sure thing, but the WE affair throws off a seediness that other scandals have not. It is somehow more provocative. It was done while COVID ravaged the country. While tens of thousands of small businesses were going down, while millions were dealing with anguish for their health, worry about their finances, one organization — with the best of insider connections — was getting special treatment, being rescued, by its pals in government.
That’s where the real sting lies.