Re: Stéphane Dion criticizes Thomas Mulcair for East-West strategy
Much like global warming is now climate change.
Much like global warming is now climate change.
Thomas Mulcair, being "Thomas Mulcair"....
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Re: Thomas Mulcair disease: Canada’s would-be PM slips on the oilsands
What are you talking about?
Re: Thomas Mulcair disease: Canada’s would-be PM slips on the oilsands
Cabbage sand king, are you related to sofa king?
Sofa king awesome!
Cabbage sand king, are you related to sofa king?
Sofa king awesome!
Re: Thomas Mulcair disease: Canada’s would-be PM slips on the oilsands
That may be the best you can tell but, if you look a little closer, you may be able to tell it better. More than 300,000 manufacturing jobs have been lost in Ontario since 2002 when oil prices took off. Most in the first four years when the rise was sudden and dramatic. The bulk of those had nothing to do with the CAW or government employees.
Re: Thomas Mulcair disease: Canada’s would-be PM slips on the oilsands
And it had nothing to do with oil.
And it had nothing to do with oil.
Re: Stéphane Dion criticizes Thomas Mulcair for East-West strategy
What? I thought Manitoba was considered one of the Western
Provinces. Did this Mulcair forget them in his East vrs West
tactic? Is Manitoba not "West" enough for Mulcair?
What? I thought Manitoba was considered one of the Western
Provinces. Did this Mulcair forget them in his East vrs West
tactic? Is Manitoba not "West" enough for Mulcair?
Re: Thomas Mulcair disease: Canada’s would-be PM slips on the oilsands
Sorry, my mistake, I saw CPC and thought Progressive Conservative.
The other though, Dion is one of those that is calling Muclair out. Dion is not and has never been a supporter of Harper's Conservatives. Your comment about it being conservative supporters is wrong.
Sorry, my mistake, I saw CPC and thought Progressive Conservative.
The other though, Dion is one of those that is calling Muclair out. Dion is not and has never been a supporter of Harper's Conservatives. Your comment about it being conservative supporters is wrong.
Re: Thomas Mulcair disease: Canada’s would-be PM slips on the oilsands
Something like a million, or a million & a 1/2 people are out'a work
in Canada right now....but there's something along the lines of a
1/4 of a million employment vacancies in Canada right now.
Many of those vacancies aren't where the bulk of the enemployed
are in the country, but are in places in Canada with low
enemployment levels. Weird, eh? This Mulcair seems to want to
kick the West in the nuts, and kill off a good chunk of the 250,000
employment vacancies....to the good of the nation? Bizarre....
Something like a million, or a million & a 1/2 people are out'a work
in Canada right now....but there's something along the lines of a
1/4 of a million employment vacancies in Canada right now.
Many of those vacancies aren't where the bulk of the enemployed
are in the country, but are in places in Canada with low
enemployment levels. Weird, eh? This Mulcair seems to want to
kick the West in the nuts, and kill off a good chunk of the 250,000
employment vacancies....to the good of the nation? Bizarre....
Re: Thomas Mulcair disease: Canada’s would-be PM slips on the oilsands
Sustainable, free range, eco-friendly, green unemployment.
Sustainable, free range, eco-friendly, green unemployment.
Re: Stéphane Dion criticizes Thomas Mulcair for East-West strategy
Isn't MB still NDP?
Re: Stéphane Dion criticizes Thomas Mulcair for East-West strategy
Ahhhh.....so it wasn't an oversight & an insult. Good! I was
ready to get all indignant for Manitoba.
Ahhhh.....so it wasn't an oversight & an insult. Good! I was
ready to get all indignant for Manitoba.
Re: Stéphane Dion criticizes Thomas Mulcair for East-West strategy
Nope. Not an oversight. MB recently saw a big jump in manufacturing too. Go figure.
Nope. Not an oversight. MB recently saw a big jump in manufacturing too. Go figure.
Re: Stéphane Dion criticizes Thomas Mulcair for East-West strategy
Winterpeg is located pretty sweetly when you look at a map of
Canada, and its positioning relatively close to the international
border. Coincidence? Not much can cross the country inside
of Canada without passing through Winnipeg.
Winterpeg is located pretty sweetly when you look at a map of
Canada, and its positioning relatively close to the international
border. Coincidence? Not much can cross the country inside
of Canada without passing through Winnipeg.
Re: Stéphane Dion criticizes Thomas Mulcair for East-West strategy
WPG is getting an inland port too. Centreport Canada, Free Trade Zone, Winnipeg Inland Port - Centreport Canada
WPG is getting an inland port too. Centreport Canada, Free Trade Zone, Winnipeg Inland Port - Centreport Canada
Re: Stéphane Dion criticizes Thomas Mulcair for East-West strategy
What the hell has happened to this country. We as a nation have a problem.
The problem is we are resorting to blaming each other for our ills instead of
working together to actually solve the problems that not only confront us but
continue to grow.
We have the Tories out there using attack adds to discredit people so their
voice does not have to be listened to. We have the official opposition out there
dividing east and west. The Liberals? You have to be kidding, this is the party
that mastered the art of dividing people on a geographical basis. It has gone on
for decades. Over time every political party from every Province have engaged
in it at one time or another.
There are serious problems confronting us, the future of health Care, the future
of post secondary education, the distribution of jobs, the infrastructure that now
continues do decay. The offset of the trade balances and the costs of trying to
promote our exports. Not to mention the problems of stable and reliable
energy.
Quite frankly we don't have time to blame each other anymore, the reason is we
are all to blame, not necessarily for the problems themselves but for not demanding
more from our politicians, to find solutions. Rhetoric does not cut it anymore.
We all know we are collectively responsible, now what are we going to do collectively
to find some solutions?
What the hell has happened to this country. We as a nation have a problem.
The problem is we are resorting to blaming each other for our ills instead of
working together to actually solve the problems that not only confront us but
continue to grow.
We have the Tories out there using attack adds to discredit people so their
voice does not have to be listened to. We have the official opposition out there
dividing east and west. The Liberals? You have to be kidding, this is the party
that mastered the art of dividing people on a geographical basis. It has gone on
for decades. Over time every political party from every Province have engaged
in it at one time or another.
There are serious problems confronting us, the future of health Care, the future
of post secondary education, the distribution of jobs, the infrastructure that now
continues do decay. The offset of the trade balances and the costs of trying to
promote our exports. Not to mention the problems of stable and reliable
energy.
Quite frankly we don't have time to blame each other anymore, the reason is we
are all to blame, not necessarily for the problems themselves but for not demanding
more from our politicians, to find solutions. Rhetoric does not cut it anymore.
We all know we are collectively responsible, now what are we going to do collectively
to find some solutions?
Re: Thomas Mulcair disease: Canada’s would-be PM slips on the oilsands
Nothing wrong with eco-friendly... eh??
Hydrogen cars, wind solar power.. bring it on.. but alsp keep carbon fuels until alternative become less expensive and can seriously replace conventiinal fuel sources...
Seems most just want to go cold turkey without a transitional period, which is just not feasible ....
Pickens Plan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Nothing wrong with eco-friendly... eh??
Hydrogen cars, wind solar power.. bring it on.. but alsp keep carbon fuels until alternative become less expensive and can seriously replace conventiinal fuel sources...
Seems most just want to go cold turkey without a transitional period, which is just not feasible ....
Pickens Plan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Re: Stéphane Dion criticizes Thomas Mulcair for East-West strategy
The biggest confusion that most of those who believe this is some sort of "East-West strategy" is that it stems from the idea that we shouldn't be developing the oilsands. In fact, that is not the argument.
The argument is to develop the oil sands in a way that still brings prosperity to the country, but is sustainable so that other sectors of the economy which depend on resource collection (like MANUFACTURING) are not adversely affected.
The new reports that were released actually prove that we are suffering from a mild form of dutch disease. The reason that it is mild is because we have not really ramped up oilsands development yet. We can install pipelines and ship out our natural resources, but if we do so too quickly, this imbalance in the economy will be unreversable.
Once that happens, we commit our economy entirely to resource extraction, and if any of those resources become scarce, the entire economy will suffer because of it.
The biggest confusion that most of those who believe this is some sort of "East-West strategy" is that it stems from the idea that we shouldn't be developing the oilsands. In fact, that is not the argument.
The argument is to develop the oil sands in a way that still brings prosperity to the country, but is sustainable so that other sectors of the economy which depend on resource collection (like MANUFACTURING) are not adversely affected.
The new reports that were released actually prove that we are suffering from a mild form of dutch disease. The reason that it is mild is because we have not really ramped up oilsands development yet. We can install pipelines and ship out our natural resources, but if we do so too quickly, this imbalance in the economy will be unreversable.
Once that happens, we commit our economy entirely to resource extraction, and if any of those resources become scarce, the entire economy will suffer because of it.
Re: Stéphane Dion criticizes Thomas Mulcair for East-West strategy
Mulcair has taken specific steps to transform this into East vs West... It's no secret that his political power base is in the East and he is simply pandering to the base that he represents.
What exactly is 'sustainable' in terms of a hard definition. Provide a number and not a wishy-washy feel-good ideal... Fact is, you can't do it because there are far too many variables that affect the equation, not just the dutch disease talking point or the sad references to petrodollars.
We all know that it is a subjective construct that will vary over time based on the value of the dollar... Who is Mulcair and McGuinty going to blame when the Cdn feds raise the interest rates or if the US sees a drop in their currency?
Quote as many 'reports' and 'studies' you like. Unless the authors of these documents believe that Canadian mfgrs live in a bubble that is sheltered from the rest of the world in which they compete, they will always be impacted by some variable.
At the end of the day, Cdn mfgrs are simply not competitive in terms of the global economy. CAT was one of the recent, high profile examples of why this is the case, and as we all know, it wasn't a strong Cdn dollar that motivated them to move.
BS - Cdn mfgrs have to grow a set of fangs and take advantage of the possibilities that accompany the resource sector. There are all kinds of spin-off opportunities from this, but if they are too lazy or stupid to figure this out, then they are no different than a deer standing on the road looking into the headlights of an oncoming truck.
Mulcair has taken specific steps to transform this into East vs West... It's no secret that his political power base is in the East and he is simply pandering to the base that he represents.
What exactly is 'sustainable' in terms of a hard definition. Provide a number and not a wishy-washy feel-good ideal... Fact is, you can't do it because there are far too many variables that affect the equation, not just the dutch disease talking point or the sad references to petrodollars.
We all know that it is a subjective construct that will vary over time based on the value of the dollar... Who is Mulcair and McGuinty going to blame when the Cdn feds raise the interest rates or if the US sees a drop in their currency?
Quote as many 'reports' and 'studies' you like. Unless the authors of these documents believe that Canadian mfgrs live in a bubble that is sheltered from the rest of the world in which they compete, they will always be impacted by some variable.
At the end of the day, Cdn mfgrs are simply not competitive in terms of the global economy. CAT was one of the recent, high profile examples of why this is the case, and as we all know, it wasn't a strong Cdn dollar that motivated them to move.
BS - Cdn mfgrs have to grow a set of fangs and take advantage of the possibilities that accompany the resource sector. There are all kinds of spin-off opportunities from this, but if they are too lazy or stupid to figure this out, then they are no different than a deer standing on the road looking into the headlights of an oncoming truck.
Re: Stéphane Dion criticizes Thomas Mulcair for East-West strategy
Wrong. He's actually criticized parts of Northen Ontario for shale extraction and how it has had the same effect. And he never said that oilsands production should cease. You've fallen for the energy McCarthyism.
Exact figures on what amount of production are secondary to the fact that it has been proven via an independent report (thankfully we still have some left) confirming a mild form of dutch disease. Now that it has been shown, we need to ensure not only sustainable production, but enforcement of environmental law - the cost of which has not been accounted for. That is, essentially, what is inflating the profit in the oil sector and artificially inflating the dollar as well.
Actually, it's the very same IIRP study that claimed manufacturers do hold partial responsibility for competing, that also confirmed that dutch disease actually exists.
Facts.
I know, they hurt you.
Wrong. He's actually criticized parts of Northen Ontario for shale extraction and how it has had the same effect. And he never said that oilsands production should cease. You've fallen for the energy McCarthyism.
Exact figures on what amount of production are secondary to the fact that it has been proven via an independent report (thankfully we still have some left) confirming a mild form of dutch disease. Now that it has been shown, we need to ensure not only sustainable production, but enforcement of environmental law - the cost of which has not been accounted for. That is, essentially, what is inflating the profit in the oil sector and artificially inflating the dollar as well.
Actually, it's the very same IIRP study that claimed manufacturers do hold partial responsibility for competing, that also confirmed that dutch disease actually exists.
Facts.
I know, they hurt you.
Re: Stéphane Dion criticizes Thomas Mulcair for East-West strategy
I always know when I hit on an argument that you find indefensible Flossy, the reddies give it away.
Mulcair is hammered in every province that doesn't have an uncompetitive mfg sector; it's not just Northern Ontario (which by the way, has a big resource base).
Exact figures aren't necessary? Are you on glue?.. So much for the dutch disease argument, as expected, it's a lofty ideal that can't be measured or properly articulated. It's just another way for the mfg sector to say that we can't compete, so the answer is to devalue the dollar for the sole benefit of one sector and at the expense of every Canadian.
I suppose that I shouldn't be surprised, your entire line of quashing anything energy related gravitates around grasping at straws and clinging to any catch-phrase that you think will make the smallest amount of impact.
Partial responsibility, eh?
That's too funny.
You have the belief that any opinion piece in the papers that have the word 'study' or 'report' attached to them are magically factual... In most cases, and especially this issue, the simplest answer is generally the right one... The Cdn mfg sector is not competitive and if the decision not to buy these products is based on the notion that the product is just a few extra pennies, well, the message is pretty clear, ain't it?
I always know when I hit on an argument that you find indefensible Flossy, the reddies give it away.
Mulcair is hammered in every province that doesn't have an uncompetitive mfg sector; it's not just Northern Ontario (which by the way, has a big resource base).
Exact figures aren't necessary? Are you on glue?.. So much for the dutch disease argument, as expected, it's a lofty ideal that can't be measured or properly articulated. It's just another way for the mfg sector to say that we can't compete, so the answer is to devalue the dollar for the sole benefit of one sector and at the expense of every Canadian.
I suppose that I shouldn't be surprised, your entire line of quashing anything energy related gravitates around grasping at straws and clinging to any catch-phrase that you think will make the smallest amount of impact.
Partial responsibility, eh?
That's too funny.
You have the belief that any opinion piece in the papers that have the word 'study' or 'report' attached to them are magically factual... In most cases, and especially this issue, the simplest answer is generally the right one... The Cdn mfg sector is not competitive and if the decision not to buy these products is based on the notion that the product is just a few extra pennies, well, the message is pretty clear, ain't it?