The bible is a fairy tale!

[lone wolf]

Hadda bring your lawyer, huh?

 

[MHz]

ask me if I care.

Just out of curiosity, who is going to be bothered when an ant pisses on 'them'?

 

[lone wolf]

Just out of curiosity, who is going to be bothered when an ant pisses on 'them'?

I saw that movie!

 

[taxslave]

The idiot from the armpit of the world opined:

"Just be prepared to field poorly written rants from the fundies like YJ that believe the world is only 6000 years old and made in six days.. They believe this because some preacher told them."

taxslave you are nothing but a hyperventillating, stupid idiot!

I will apologize for that if you can show me JUST ONE post where I said the world was 6000 years old. Or that it was made in six days. Or just anything that I posted that in any way might indicate that I am a "fundy". And since I am a Catholic, (nominally) my clergyman is not a preacher, but a priest, you sad, pathetic piece of liberal ignorance.

And you, an obviously semi-illiterate hick have the nerve to demean my ability to write? If you can express anything in your second language as coherently as I can in mine, you will have a reason to be so uppity and condescending.

You a taxslave? You are nothing but a welfare bum! And in your blind hatred you don't even have the decency to refer to me by my actual nome de plum, you lazy, worthless piece of crap!

My My jacko you are in a bit of a snit today aren't you?
Your hero junior bush has stated publicly that he believes the world to be six thousand years old and since you lap up his every word you are tarred with the same brush. Since you support the catholic church you obviously do not have a problem with kid diddlers preachers do you? Although not believing in god I think that anyone that could support an organization that tolerates such vile treatment of children by the leaders needs to seriously reconsider their place in life.
Watch your blood preasure cause there is no god to save you.

 

[Cliffy]

The Bible promotes resurrection from death so I'm not sure your argument that little has been said about the far side of death's door, other than it is a one-way affair as far as we are concerned (as mortals), applies or even comes close. The Bible even tells you all the choices of it's future plans. Rather than being simple the 2nd chapter of Genesis takes you past the end of Revelation 20. A prisoner on Patmos interconnected to the same enity that was with Noah giving directions
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What has any of this got to do with reincarnation? Did you miss the part where several popes removed most of the references to reincarnation? They did it purely for political reasons and to solidify their power in a time when their power was supreme in the christian world. Babbling on about verses that have no relevance to the topic seems rather silly in light of the fact that the bible of today has very little resemblance to the original book. Not only that, but your answers usually show your complete ignorance of the history of the book - the who, where, when and whys of its existence.

YouTube - Ziggy Marley Video: Love is My Religion

 

[JLM]

So I look upon myself when asking for assistance or help as a positive mark of character - Yopu clearly look upon it as a weakness.

You look upon it as a negative and use that to insult.

Something you should ponder for a tad of time I would say.

My thoughts exactly Goober & I couldn't have said it as well myself. Almost everyone comes up against a "row to hoe" that is too much for them, no shame asking for help. :smile:

 

[taxslave]

Yes Gerryn I do have problems where I need help -I have no problem stating that - some would consider that a deficiency as you do - I consider it a positive mark of Character to admit you need help - To many people as they travel thru life thinking they have all the answers when in fact they are for the most part in gross error - and why is that - because they believe they have all the answers -

Other throw simple insults at others - why - because they have feelings of inadequacy -that is shown and demonstrated in their daily interaction with people, friends and family -
It becomes apparent to all after and over a period of time. Feelings of inadequacy bring anger to the forefront of a persons interactions with society as a whole.

So I look upon myself when asking for assistance or help as a positive mark of character - Yopu clearly look upon it as a weakness.

You look upon it as a negative and use that to insult.

Something you should ponder for a tad of time I would say.

Would that be sort of like a person with a drinking problem and the smarts to realize it going to AA? At some point in time all of us will require a little help with something.

 

[taxslave]

Yukon Jack: I have a real simple deal for you. Since I do not believe there is such a thing as god and it is impossible to prove a negative, you, being a true believer can bring her over to my place for tea and smoke a fatty and talk about life, then I will believe you. Won't change how I live my life but I will then admit that you are right.

 

[AnnaG]

OK, sorry about the title guys, I really don't want to take it that far but I do wish to make a point.

Can I talk about my non-religious beliefs in this forum too? Is it OK to give an opposing point of view?

Forums are for discussing things. Otherwise they'd just be a mass of declarations. lol

I was brought up going to Cathlic school and getting my finger whacked every time I said the wrong thing. I had to study the bible everyday and the more I had to read it the more it sounded like a fairy tale. I mean.... Adam & Eve and a serpent? come on, get real, even as a kid I did not believe this. The great flood and the parting of the seas? hmmm.... maybe I'm not sooooo sure about this one.

Anyways, the only point I'm trying to make is that religion exists everywhere and it is always an almighty father. You always hear about what happens if you don't do as you're told.

Fact is, in the olden days the Roman Catholics had to control the public or there would have been anarchy. Imagine if there were no consequences to your actions. So just as a child gets told "wait till your father gets home" so do adults get told by their religious leaders in order to put the fear of god into them. For adults it is "wait until you meet your almighty father". Very much the same way we control our young ones.

I do believe in a higher power, but I believe we are all gods in our own right. We are part of the whole and when we pass our energy re-joins the whole, so therefore we are part of the energy that makes up god. The best way I can express a comparison is to compare it to the human brain, it is one single entity but it is made up of millions of separate cells making up the whole.

We are all one and interconnected, what you do to others will certainly come back to you in the end.

I am deeply deeply sorry if I offended anyone and I need to express that this is my opinion only and does not intend to take away from anybody else's beliefs, nor do I intend to belittle them in any way.

I would love to hear more non-traditional views on religion, without slandering the belief of others of course. Please respect my view in the same manner I respect yours.

I think religions and religious books have become gods to some people.

I didn't know there were faeries in the Bible. Curious.

ask me if I care.

Break one, you might as well break them all.

Just out of curiosity, who is going to be bothered when an ant pisses on 'them'?

Actually ants don't piss, they shyte; excess fluids come out in their shyte. So a piss ant is a fiction, or as it were, a faerie tale.

 

[Goober]

Forums are for discussing things. Otherwise they'd just be a mass of declarations. lolI think religions and religious books have become gods to some people.

I would say that for many, Religion and how they were taught, Churches, Parents etc have many thinking that for thier Religion to be adhered to then they must place themselves in a box in order to comply and adhere with their specific religious beliefs. It has put many in a box.

That is not the purpose or Religion - It is not meant to put you in a box - It is meant to free you, to guide you in life, it is not meant to place you in a container.
Me I am outside the box when it comes to Religious belief, but I believe in Religion, but many are not.

Sad to say it is that belief in that the box is a requirement for their Religious beliefs that causes most problems between differing Religions.

That and ignorance and not following or adhering to the main tenets -

The Big 10 as I call them are central to Judaism, Christianity and Islam - Abraham is revered by all three Religions yet they fight.
Always look to the big 10 - It answers pretty well any moral situation that arises - Not all mind you but the vast majority.
To me Religious belief is fairly simple and lays out clearly what is right and wrong.

 

[gerryh]

I would say that for many, Religion and how they were taught, Churches, Parents etc have many thinking that for thier Religion to be adhered to then they must place themselves in a box in order to comply and adhere with their specific religious beliefs. It has put many in a box.

That is not the purpose or Religion - It is not meant to put you in a box - It is meant to free you, to guide you in life, it is not meant to place you in a container.
Me I am outside the box when it comes to Religious belief, but I believe in Religion, but many are not.

Sad to say it is that belief in that the box is a requirement for their Religious beliefs that causes most problems between differing Religions.

That and ignorance and not following or adhering to the main tenets -

The Big 10 as I call them are central to Judaism, Christianity and Islam - Abraham is revered by all three Religions yet they fight.
Always look to the big 10 - It answers pretty well any moral situation that arises - Not all mind you but the vast majority.
To me Religious belief is fairly simple and lays out clearly what is right and wrong.

But it's all a fairy tale.

 

[Goober]

But it's all a fairy tale.

Now that is opinion - Not fact. Glad you see the diffence -
You can look at it whatever way you wish -
Religion also teaches you that. It gives man Free Will
Belief or not is up to and decided by the individual, Not the State, Not the Church and Not anyone else but yourself.

 

[AnnaG]

I would say that for many, Religion and how they were taught, Churches, Parents etc have many thinking that for thier Religion to be adhered to then they must place themselves in a box in order to comply and adhere with their specific religious beliefs. It has put many in a box.

That is not the purpose or Religion - It is not meant to put you in a box - It is meant to free you, to guide you in life, it is not meant to place you in a container.
Me I am outside the box when it comes to Religious belief, but I believe in Religion, but many are not.

Sad to say it is that belief in that the box is a requirement for their Religious beliefs that causes most problems between differing Religions.

That and ignorance and not following or adhering to the main tenets -

Indubitably.

The Big 10 as I call them are central to Judaism, Christianity and Islam - Abraham is revered by all three Religions yet they fight.
Always look to the big 10 - It answers pretty well any moral situation that arises - Not all mind you but the vast majority.
To me Religious belief is fairly simple and lays out clearly what is right and wrong.

Most (about 6) of the big 10 are ok. Personally I think avoiding the 7 deadly sins and attempting to follow all the cardinal virtues is more important.

 

[Goober]

Indubitably.

Most (about 6) of the big 10 are ok. Personally I think avoiding the 7 deadly sins and attempting to follow all the cardinal virtues is more important.

Yes I would also agree that the big bad 7 should aslo be taken into consideration

 

[gerryh]

Now that is opinion - Not fact. Glad you see the diffence -
You can look at it whatever way you wish -
Religion also teaches you that. It gives man Free Will
Belief or not is up to and decided by the individual, Not the State, Not the Church and Not anyone else but yourself.

nope...fact....look at the title..... plus...you must have been sleepin, but the majority of the athiests and "non theists" on CC have stated that anyone believing in God, the Bible, the Koran, or Religions in general are delusional. They make this statement as fact, not as an opinion.

 

[Chiliagon]

in my bible, Jesus started a rock band called "the apostles" and made it to #1 on the charts and went on tour!

he then met a woman, got into drugs and alcohol.. had to go to rehab, made a come back but then sadly at age 33 his life was cut short by an unfortunate bus accident!

but he came back in 3 days for a "death tour 1 NIGHT ONLY!"

 

[Dexter Sinister]

They make this statement as fact, not as an opinion.

That's because it IS a fact. God as strictly defined by the major monotheisms is an utterly incoherent idea that can be demonstrated does not correspond to anything in reality. That doesn't preclude the possibility of some other more limited sorts of deities, but the one claimed by Judaism, Christianity, and Islam cannot logically exist.

I also note from your posts that belief or disbelief doesn't seem to have anything to do with whether a person is kind, polite, considerate, tolerant, or many of the other virtues monotheism pretends to espouse. Your foul-mouthed bad temper does you no credit. But I know you don't care what anyone thinks of you anyway, or so you say, though sometimes perhaps you protest a little too much.

 

[gerryh]

That's because it IS a fact. God as strictly defined by the major monotheisms is an utterly incoherent idea that can be demonstrated does not correspond to anything in reality. That doesn't preclude the possibility of some other more limited sorts of deities, but the one claimed by Judaism, Christianity, and Islam cannot logically exist.

I also note from your posts that belief or disbelief doesn't seem to have anything to do with whether a person is kind, polite, considerate, tolerant, or many of the other virtues monotheism pretends to espouse. Your foul-mouthed bad temper does you no credit. But I know you don't care what anyone thinks of you anyway, or so you say, though sometimes perhaps you protest a little too much.

There ya go.... the all knowing, almighty dexter has sealed the deal.

 

[EagleSmack]

OK, sorry about the title guys, I really don't want to take it that far but I do wish to make a point.

Can I talk about my non-religious beliefs in this forum too? Is it OK to give an opposing point of view?

C'mon...don't be such a wus. You knew what you were doing.

Fact is, in the olden days the Roman Catholics had to control the public or there would have been anarchy. Imagine if there were no consequences to your actions. So just as a child gets told "wait till your father gets home" so do adults get told by their religious leaders in order to put the fear of god into them. For adults it is "wait until you meet your almighty father". Very much the same way we control our young ones.

Is that a fact? The Catholic religion controlled the better part of Europe for only a short time. During much of that that time it was as close to anarchy as it could get with all the wars that were fought over it, for it, and against it.

Before the Catholic church had some sort of grip on Europe there were the Romans. Was that anarchy? The Greeks. Anarchy?

I do believe in a higher power, but I believe we are all gods in our own right. We are part of the whole and when we pass our energy re-joins the whole, so therefore we are part of the energy that makes up god. The best way I can express a comparison is to compare it to the human brain, it is one single entity but it is made up of millions of separate cells making up the whole.

We are all one and interconnected, what you do to others will certainly come back to you in the end.

Is that one of your facts?

I am deeply deeply sorry if I offended anyone and I need to express that this is my opinion only and does not intend to take away from anybody else's beliefs, nor do I intend to belittle them in any way.

Again, don't be such a wus. You took the path of least resistance bringing up the Catholics and the bible. Easy targets.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

There ya go.... the all knowing, almighty dexter has sealed the deal.

You flatter me. Wasn't me, started out with people like David Hume and most recently to my knowledge ended up with a philosopher named David Ramsay Steele, though no doubt there are other people I haven't heard of who are also thinking about it.