Tesla's electric cars aren't as green as you might think

Ron in Regina

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I'm guessing his employer is footing the bill for power while charging at work. Everyone else should demand free gas.


This guy owns the building that his business and several others are in (including ours). Awesome guy too & very bright. I'm assuming he's figured out a way for you to be paying for this.
 

petros

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This guy owns the building that his business and several others are in (including ours). Awesome guy too & very bright. I'm assuming he's figured out a way for you to be paying for this.
Sooner than later the Feds will get their equivalent of 17 cents a litre excise tax on fuel.
 

spilledthebeer

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The guy I know with a Tesla has driven it all winter so far (one of the coldest in a Loooooong time). He drives home from work at about 4pm and plugs the car in (he has about a 15 minute commute to or from work), and by somewhere between 3AM & 5AM depending on the temperature it has a full charge again so he can drive to work in the morning for 8AM....where he plugs it in for his commute home 8 hours later. He only got it last year so this is its first winter. He says he is saving on the cost for electricity vs the cost it would have been for gas (not factoring in the cost of the vehicle but he's the kind'a guy who wouldn't buy a personal vehicle with less than 500hp anyway).




A 15 minute commute???????????????????????????????????????????


AND HE GETS TO RECHARGE HIS SH+TBOX AT WORK AS WELL???????????????????????????



What govt agency does the well heeled HOG WORK FOR??????????????????????????????



I know what my boss would say about charging my car at his building at his expense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And it would NOT BE PRETTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But them - when LIE-berals started promoting their electric TOY cars - THEY DID TELL US they would be installing FREE CHARGERS at LCBO and other govt buildings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yes- I PREDICTED that LIE-berals would OFFER FREE CHARGING to civil service union Hogs who bought into the electric TOY car business!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And apparently my prediction has come true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And since it is his first winter with the car it will take a little while for the nice fresh new battery to weaken ....... and start killing his range .....................as all batteries do in time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And REALLY RON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Do you honestly think that your LIE-beral propaganda is going to sway anybody????????????????????


Other than a LIE-beral!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

spilledthebeer

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Tesla finally launches $35,000 Model 3, and moves all sales online

There you go a model for Carbon Climate liars waiting on Carbon Tax rebates


I note with cynical amusement that the KEY ACCESSORY offered with the economy Tesla IS REDUCED RANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yes- in order to save on costs...................they have SHRUNK the battery size and REDUCED the already "IFFY" range even further!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And the damned thing is being offered for sale online for $35 grand U.S. dollars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Which STILL MAKES the new "economy" Tesla DOUBLE the cost of a Cdn priced Nissan Qashqai that comes with longer range, easier refueling, larger cargo capacity, what looks like more room for passengers and the ability to pull a modest sized trailer which NO electric Toy car can pull!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And since the Tesla will be sold only online it opens up all sorts of brand new opportunities for identity theft!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And it opens other forms of theft as well- Toronto news media did a report recently on some guy who had his license plate stolen and did not notice for a few days..............during which time the thief ran up a bunch of parking tickets for which the victim must pay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



The victim did not notify govt quickly enough that his plate had been stolen so he is on the hook!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The victim will also be on the hook for any charges generated if the thief used toll roads as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Victim will not know how much this theft has cost till the end of the month when all the potential bills come in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And the cops commented on this as well- stating that some thieves are clever enough to make up plates of their own that LOOK legitimate.....using YOUR personal information and YOUR plate number!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals promised us LOTS of new jobs.................................


but WHY must all the jobs be for lawyers and thieves?????????????????????????
 

taxslave

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So here is an interesting question. If you buy your toy online where do you take it for repairs? Do you put it back in the Amazon box and hope porch pirates take it away?
 

spilledthebeer

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So here is an interesting question. If you buy your toy online where do you take it for repairs? Do you put it back in the Amazon box and hope porch pirates take it away?




That IS ACTUALLY a VERY GOOD QUESTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Suppose there is a problem with battery or with computerized charging system while under warranty????????????????????????


Suppose you CRASH your electric Toy car.........we all know that snow and ice are hard on cars..................so what happens if you BEND your Tesla and need auto body repairs?????????????????????


It sounds like LARGE EXTRA COST to have parts shipped in from Tesla!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And lets face it- most cars that get bent on a snowy day end up with USED PARTS salvaged from a wrecking yard at moderate price- compared to BRAND NEW PARTS PRICES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Your insurance company WILL NOT PAY for new parts...................and their are no Teslas currently in LOCAL wrecking yards!!!!!!!!!!



And here is a thought related to fire insurance..................a Lithium battery will IGNITE when its contents come in contact with oxygen.........so what happens and WHO PAYS..............if your bent Tesla is dragged into an auto body shop late in the day and then the battery IGNITES - because the battery has been jolted and has a tiny hairline crack that eventually allows IGNITION after workers go home ??????????????????



I believe Tesla car has a motherboard for monitoring power consumption and available range and for the cruise control that the cheaper versions come with.........................................


Though the cheaper versions WILL NOT have the self driving features and lane departure software that comes with higher end models!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And as we ALL KNOW...................motherboards and other hardware and software sometimes FAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


There have been consumer reports regarding faulty software on Dodge trucks........with local dealers having some trouble sorting out the issues...............so how much more difficult to deal with a Tesla with NO local dealer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You certainly WILL NOT be able to to take the electric Toy car to your local mechanic- he DOES NOT have the technical ,manuals or training for a Tesla!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Though I would suppose that Tesla electric Toys accept standard over the counter brake pads and tires and brake lines so the small pesky repairs can be made at least!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And as we know................transmissions sometimes need work as well.................and that cannot be done by your basic local garden variety mechanic either!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Electric Toy cars are simply NOT READY for mass use!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The fact that the cost of an electric TOY NEEDS MASSIVE govt subsidies to get the cars sold and to get costly and often UNRELIABLE fast chargers installed is PROOF of the limitations and inadequacies of the TOY machines!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

spilledthebeer

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Is 'R&D' even a term in your world??


Most certainly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



But it has apparently ESCAPED your notice that we Cdns expect PRIVATE ENTERPRISE to do and PAY for most of the Research and Development that occurs in Canada!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


That way if money is wasted on STUPID IDEAS it is NOT the entire country and tax payers that suffers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


If private enterprise uses its own money then THEY are the winners or losers as the case may be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I realize this concept is foreign to you MHz as you are apparently accustomed to GOVT research...........................of the sort done by



Muslim Fascists cannibalizing the resources of an entire country to build atomic bombs with which to show us their contempt of Jews!!!!!!!!!!



Allowing a govt to CONTROL R and D ensures we end up living in a COMMUNIST SYSTEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And the collapse of every Communist govt under the sun that lacked the wisdom to make MAJOR changes BEFORE Socialism destroyed them demonstrates the essential FAILURE of Communism and its slightly less poisonous Socialist brother!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Cuban Communists have kept their starving socialist utopia moving thanks to the influx of western tourists..............Cuban Commissars are kept busy preventing too much western contamination.....................but the hard currency enables the Revolution to survive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


NOT SO in sunny Venezuela were Socialism has bankrupted the nation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The cunning Chinese were wise enough to see the problems and allow Capitalist Solutions before disaster striuck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Communist China is now a dictatorship that makes a decent profit BECAUSE IT has turned loose its private enterprise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It is only idiot Cdn LIE-berals who still believe in Socialism!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And some quite slow learning Muslims such as yourself as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Though Muslim ignorance is understandable and excusable since all they are allowed to read is Quran and ancient Arabic history!!!!!!!
 

spilledthebeer

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I'm guessing his employer is footing the bill for power while charging at work. Everyone else should demand free gas.




FREE ELECTRICITY????????????????????????????????


AS I have suggested before ..........................LIE-berals are so desperate to force their electric Toy cars on us that they will pretty much GIVE THEM AWAY to their friends and allies in order to make them LOOK more acceptable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And we ordinary people will get the bills for the subsidies and LIE-beral give aways!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Image is everything with LIE-berals.............truth is NOT relevant in their hunt for MORE GRAVY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And I also asked how long it would be before LIE-berals decided that FREE ELECTRICITY should be offered to civil service union Hogs as just another ENTITLEMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Apparently LIE-berals ARE giving out free electricity to HOGS ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


After all...............HOW could you get your electric TOY car charged at work UNLESS the boss had installed a charger for you???????


I have worked places were the boss DOES NOT OFFER EMPLOYEE PARKING................muh less use of a FREE CHARGER for your electric TOY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The LIE-beral sponsored electric TOY car game has all the style and grace and public honesty we have come to know and LOATH about LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Hoid

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What happened was he wanted to shut all his stors and just sell online but the lease holders are forcing him to honor the leases.\\

To everyone;s shock and amazement the white natty's do not understand what is going on..