Some facts about rape

SirJosephPorter

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If she forces the man to eat viagra then it's possible

I hope you are not saying that rape belongs to women only


I suppose if she forces the man to take Viagra (or dissolves it in his drink), over powers him, ties him down then it may be possible. But the whole thing sounds very far fetched. While it may happen it is probably lot rarer than a male raping a female.

Besides, males are conditioned from birth to dominate, to be in control of their surroundings. So when they lose control they want to lash out, they must establish the control over the surroundings somehow. And one of those ways is rape.

Females are conditioned from birth not to be in control. So if they feel that they have no control over their surroundings, it is no big deal to them. And when they do act out, it is usually self abusive behavior (sexual promiscuity, drug abuse etc.), rather than raping a man.
 

Unforgiven

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I suppose if she forces the man to take Viagra (or dissolves it in his drink), over powers him, ties him down then it may be possible. But the whole thing sounds very far fetched. While it may happen it is probably lot rarer than a male raping a female.

Besides, males are conditioned from birth to dominate, to be in control of their surroundings. So when they lose control they want to lash out, they must establish the control over the surroundings somehow. And one of those ways is rape.

Females are conditioned from birth not to be in control. So if they feel that they have no control over their surroundings, it is no big deal to them. And when they do act out, it is usually self abusive behavior (sexual promiscuity, drug abuse etc.), rather than raping a man.

Hogwash. Some people are, but only by design and to the insistence of weak minded and weak of spirit men. Fear drives this mandatory role modeling by gender and if anything it will fade out like an old flashlight.

The races a mingling, the roles are failing their traditional assignments and the God fable is in rigor mortis. What's more the traditional methods of putting fear into people so they obey without question is failing as well.

I welcome that.
 

JLM

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"Females are conditioned from birth not to be in control."- You're right if you are comparing sheer numbers, BUT i've known some VERY controlling women and the ones who are, are generally a lot worse than controlling men.
 

Cliffy

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the God fable is in rigor mortis.

unforgiven,

Don't tell Alleywayz, bluedog, Mhz or Coldstream that! I don't think they could handle it.
 

Colpy

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Ahhh...now I'm going to step in it... :)

First of all, IMHO, a woman raping a man is physically impossible....Viagra, etc., does not give one an instant, continuing erection........it also requires sexual stimulation......the guy has to want sex, in other words...thus no rape.

Secondly, whether you like it or not, young men are physically and hormonally set up to dominate. Full stop, and political correctness will not lower male testosterone levels, nor make men physically smaller and weaker. That is the fact of the matter: male dominance is a biological fact.......deal with it.

Now, as any guy who has lived with a woman past menopause realizes....things change as their hormones fade, and the female loses her estrogen......allowing her natural testosterone to take over....(10% male levels, BTW)

As my post menopausal (tiny) wife said to me "When I used to get shoved and jostled getting on the bus, I wanted to burst into tears. Now I want to get an axe and kill them all. What's wrong with me?"

Welcome to the wonderful world of testosterone. :)

I'll be convinced males are not set up for natural dominance when someone shows me a SINGLE ancient case of women raiding a neighbouring village to steal men.

This PC BS in the face of the most obvious aspects of our nature irks me somewhat.
 

gerryh

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When facts are so easily checked these days, I have a hard time understanding why so many are so intent on putting forth myth as fact. Is it because they are lazy or so stuck on themselves that they don't feel that anything they post could be anything but fact.

Myths vs. Reality sexual assault against men - SARP Center - 805.545.8888

Myth: Men can't be sexually assaulted.
Reality: Men are sexually assaulted. Any man can be sexually assaulted regardless of size, strength, appearance, or sexual orientation.

Myth: Men cannot be sexually assaulted by women.
Reality: Although the majority of perpetrators are male, men can also be sexually assaulted by women.


Myth: Erection or ejaculation during a sexual assault means you "really wanted it" or consented to it.
Reality: Erection and ejaculation are physiological responses that may result from mere physical contact or even extreme stress. These responses do not imply that you wanted or enjoyed the assault and do not indicate anything about your sexual orientation. Some rapists are aware how erection and ejaculation can confuse a victim of sexual assault- this motivates them to manipulate their victims to the point of erection or ejaculation to increase their feelings of control and to discourage reporting of the crime.
 

SirJosephPorter

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Hogwash. Some people are, but only by design and to the insistence of weak minded and weak of spirit men. Fear drives this mandatory role modeling by gender and if anything it will fade out like an old flashlight.

The races a mingling, the roles are failing their traditional assignments and the God fable is in rigor mortis. What's more the traditional methods of putting fear into people so they obey without question is failing as well.

I welcome that.


You are right, unforgiven, things are changing. But old habits die hard. While there is not as much stereotyping, as much conditioning as before, there still is plenty of it. Men and women are still conditioned differently right from birth, though it is not as blatant and as rigid as it once was.
 

#juan

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Thank you juan

it's okay. I was there, I was using a good example of what can happen, often does happen to the guys and I am a woman, I protect women and I am somewhat of a feminist *smiles*

I agree with Gerry that when a woman says NO it is NO and should always be NO but sometimes that doesn't apply and sometimes it is not always the man's fault.

That's all I have to say on said topic. Most of things Anna has mentioned in the stats have happened to me and I agree to most women. Some women should say no ... some find it too late ...

Kiwi now throws much ***loving calm dust*** around the room....

bye de byes..

Fancy juan thinking I was a man.. Better change me profile pic (lol)

The grey chin whiskers threw me off...;-):lol:
 

DurkaDurka

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When facts are so easily checked these days, I have a hard time understanding why so many are so intent on putting forth myth as fact. Is it because they are lazy or so stuck on themselves that they don't feel that anything they post could be anything but fact.

Myths vs. Reality sexual assault against men - SARP Center - 805.545.8888

Myth: Men can't be sexually assaulted.
Reality: Men are sexually assaulted. Any man can be sexually assaulted regardless of size, strength, appearance, or sexual orientation.

Myth: Men cannot be sexually assaulted by women.
Reality: Although the majority of perpetrators are male, men can also be sexually assaulted by women.


Myth: Erection or ejaculation during a sexual assault means you "really wanted it" or consented to it.
Reality: Erection and ejaculation are physiological responses that may result from mere physical contact or even extreme stress. These responses do not imply that you wanted or enjoyed the assault and do not indicate anything about your sexual orientation. Some rapists are aware how erection and ejaculation can confuse a victim of sexual assault- this motivates them to manipulate their victims to the point of erection or ejaculation to increase their feelings of control and to discourage reporting of the crime.

Gerry, you should start an advocacy group for men that have been raped by women. There is probably at least 5 people in the country who would join.
 

AnnaG

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If that’s true then why isn’t domestic violence that is about power, control, domination not called rape.

Rape is non consented sex and that’s it
Rape is about sexual domination; control is the prime motivation. ANyone capable of googling research on the subject can find that out.
 

AnnaG

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