Should Canadian expats be allowed to vote in federal elections?

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Should Canadian expats be allowed to vote in federal elections?

By Andy Radia | Canada Politics – 15 hours ago



Whether it's for work or for love, moving to another country is often a coveted adventure for many Canadians.
In fact, according to Statistics Canada, approximately 2.9 million Canadians currently live abroad.
Are those individuals any less 'Canadian' than the rest of us? Should expatriates be allowed to vote in Canadian elections?
It's a question that has come up this month for a couple of reasons.
On Friday, the New Democrats introduced a private members bill which would strike down Section 11(d) of the Canada Elections Act, which states that Canadian citizens that have lived outside of Canada for more than five years cannot vote in general elections.
The law was actually passed in 1993 but wasn't strictly enforced until 2007.
"It is patently undemocratic to restrict someone’s ability to participate in our democracy because they are engaging in the myriad of opportunities available globally," New Democrat MP Megan Leslie said in a press release.
"Canadians living outside the country still have a vested interest in the decisions of government, taxation, our economy, our justice system and rights.
"Canadians living abroad are a significant asset to Canada, domestically and internationally. These folks may not hold citizenship somewhere else and yet they are being totally and unreasonably disenfranchised."
In their press release, the New Democrats note that five year residency rule "does not apply to members of the Canadian Armed Forces, RCMP personnel or diplomats."

The issue is also being taken up in the courts.
According to the Toronto Star, last week an Ontario judge heard a challenge from two individuals who were banned from voting in 2011 because of the rule.
The duo's lawyer argues that, under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, Canadian citizens who are 18 years and older have the right to vote. But the Canadian government sees things differently.
"The federal government has argued the current law helps strike a balance between the democratic rights of Canadians while ensuring sufficient ties exist between a citizen and Canada," notes the Star report.
Other countries, including the United States, don't have these types of restrictions.
In fact, according to a website titled 'Let Canadians Vote,' a lot of other countries are more proactive in engaging their expats.
"There are countries with emigrant populations much larger than Canada's that allow overseas citizens to vote without restrictions, such as Italy, Poland, and Mexico. So do Belgium, the Netherlands, Iceland, Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Switzerland, Portugal, Estonia, Japan, and New Zealand," notes the website.
"France, Estonia, and the Netherlands have gone so far as to set up voting over the Internet, to make it as easy as possible."
So what do you think? If a Canadian citizen has been working or living abroad for more than five years, should they be allowed to vote?


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I don't see why not. Odds are that many of them are still filing a Canadian tax return which is more than can be said for inmates, who do have the right to vote. Thoughts?

Personally I don't really give a rat's a$$. Maybe the question should be "how many countries are you allowed to vote in"?
 

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Sal,,prisoners are suppose to have no rights, they gave that up when they broke the law.
As for paying taxes when abroad.. depends. Apparently if you live in a caribbean island, you have to come back to Canada every six months in order to collect "your" pension, that you paid into with "your" money. If you own property and rent it out, you pay taxes on it here in Canada, so if you are still paying taxes in Canada for earning money in another country, then yes you should be allowed to vote.
Your still a Canadian citizen, even if you get residency. Also why are so many so quick to take away the rights of a real Canadian, but so damn willing to give it to a foriegner?

But,,, why would an "expat" want to vote?
 

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Sal,,prisoners are suppose to have no rights, they gave that up when they broke the law.
As for paying taxes when abroad.. depends. Apparently if you live in a caribbean island, you have to come back to Canada every six months in order to collect "your" pension, that you paid into with "your" money. If you own property and rent it out, you pay taxes on it here in Canada, so if you are still paying taxes in Canada for earning money in another country, then yes you should be allowed to vote.
Your still a Canadian citizen, even if you get residency. Also why are so many so quick to take away the rights of a real Canadian, but so damn willing to give it to a foriegner?

But,,, why would an "expat" want to vote?

Good points!

But,,, why would an "expat" want to vote?

For a number of reasons, perhaps he wants to "help" a friend who is running, perhaps he still has relatives in the country and is concerned about their best interests.
 

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As long as one did not give up their Canadian status like Conrad Black they have a legal right to vote

With our system they would need a permanent address in Canada to do so. If you dont live in the country and dont have a permanent address there how do you decide which riding to vote in? And is that MP really going to be representing Canadians who live abroad?