Now Ray Lahey Down to Sleep, He Asks the Lord...

AnnaG

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The author of this article get's itclose, but not bang on.




The married Preists are former Anglicanpreists. When the Anglican Church started allowing Female ordination and then SSM, there were some Parishes that decided to split from the Anglican Church and "rejoin" the Roman Catholic Church. These Parishes were allowed to retain their Preist, with the condition of that if the Preist became "unmarried" for any reason that he would then take the vow of celibacy and continue on without the ability to remarry.

The Eastern Orthodox Churches have always allowed Preists to be married. While they do recognise the Vatican and the Pope, they have their own way of doing things.
You're partially right, another reason is that some of the married priests were married before they became priests. Our local priest is one such fellow.
 

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As far as pedophiles go, they inherently seek positions of power. One of the biggest positions of power over people is religion. Then there is teaching and others. There's a big list of them. These positions enable them to grab more frequent opportunities to offend.
 

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Ya but as gerryh pointed out - there is a big difference between being a homosexual and a pedophile and CS seems focused on homosexual people.
 

lone wolf

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Ya but as gerryh pointed out - there is a big difference between being a homosexual and a pedophile and CS seems focused on homosexual people.

It's official policy. Anyone who wants to Google it, feel free. Pope sez child molester priests do it because they're gay.

Talk about fifteenth-century thinking!
 

karrie

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Another cleric hits the turf!
Ottawa police issue warrant for ex-N.S. bishop - Nova Scotia News - TheChronicleHerald.ca
Time for the Church to adopt a married priesthood in the Latin Rite - and of course, women clergy.
Can the Church turn its back on needed change?

Marrying doesn't stop paedophiles from being paedophiles, it merely gives them the convenience of having their own children at home, close at hand. To imply that celibacy will turn a man into a paedophile says little about men. Especially when you consider that a healthy man being celibate will perhaps break his vows by looking at ADULT porn, or the women in his church... not kiddie porn.
 

karrie

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The Catholic church should have realized long long ago that they attract this kind of filth by not allowing Priests to wed.

Paedophiles are attracted to positions of power. Police officers, teachers, little league coaches, priests, pastors, etc. You'll still get paedophiles serving as priests, even if you let them marry.
 

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It's official policy. Anyone who wants to Google it, feel free. Pope sez child molester priests do it because they're gay.

Talk about fifteenth-century thinking!

In the sexual arena, the Pope should only be allowed to speak of that which he is familiar, like prostate problems, masturbation and diddling alter boys. Blaming pedophilia on homosexuality is a diversionary tactic. Boinking alter boys is a tradition in the church going back to Paul (who, in his writings, had very little use for women).

According to some early christian writings, Mary Magdalene was the head apostle and it was Paul who had her written out of the bible because the thought of a female Pope would have given his male chauvinist pig mind a hemorrhage (although I hear there was a female Pope who disguised herself to get in).

And like I always say, homophobic men are closet queens. Just ask any shrink. Coldstream, I think thou dost protest too much.
 
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AnnaG

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Ya but as gerryh pointed out - there is a big difference between being a homosexual and a pedophile and CS seems focused on homosexual people.
Well, yes. It's obvious to informed people even though incidentally some pedophiles prey upon their own gender. Most pedophiles are men and there doesn't seem to be a big gap between numbers of male victims or female victims.
 

AnnaG

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Paedophiles are attracted to positions of power. Police officers, teachers, little league coaches, priests, pastors, etc. You'll still get paedophiles serving as priests, even if you let them marry.
Yup.
 

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Is that the same Mr. Lahey (in incognoto, of course) who is so prominently featured in the ever so excellent Canadian production of "The Trailer Park Boys"?
 

karrie

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Is that the same Mr. Lahey (in incognoto, of course) who is so prominently featured in the ever so excellent Canadian production of "The Trailer Park Boys"?

Do not defame Trailer Park Boys with such blasphemous comparisons. *insert forgotten smily here*
 

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Well, yes. It's obvious to informed people even though incidentally some pedophiles prey upon their own gender. Most pedophiles are men and there doesn't seem to be a big gap between numbers of male victims or female victims.

I'm going to clarify something, because with the above statement you made, I KNOW it's going to be twisted as I have seen it twisted over and over again.

A pedophiles sexual preference when it comes to children has NOTHING to do with their sexual preference in regard to adults. A married male who is COMPLETELY hetrosexual and always has been in their sexual dealings with adults could have only an interest in prepubecent boys. This would make him a "homosexual pedophile", NOT a homosexual that IS a pedophile. The same with bisexual pedophiles( those that have no sexual preference either way) or hetrosexual pedophiles.
 

AnnaG

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I'm going to clarify something, because with the above statement you made, I KNOW it's going to be twisted as I have seen it twisted over and over again.

A pedophiles sexual preference when it comes to children has NOTHING to do with their sexual preference in regard to adults. A married male who is COMPLETELY hetrosexual and always has been in their sexual dealings with adults could have only an interest in prepubecent boys. This would make him a "homosexual pedophile", NOT a homosexual that IS a pedophile. The same with bisexual pedophiles( those that have no sexual preference either way) or hetrosexual pedophiles.
Well, yes, I guess that to some that's not very obvious in spite of my use of the word "incidentally". TY for elaborating. :)
 

gerryh

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Well, yes, I guess that to some that's not very obvious. TY for elaborating. :)


I pounded my head against a brickwall for at least 10 pages.....supplying studies and links like crazy.... the guy I was "debating" wih just could NOT get it through his thick skull the difference.
 

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Marrying doesn't stop paedophiles from being paedophiles, it merely gives them the convenience of having their own children at home, close at hand. To imply that celibacy will turn a man into a paedophile says little about men. Especially when you consider that a healthy man being celibate will perhaps break his vows by looking at ADULT porn, or the women in his church... not kiddie porn.

Granted in part, but mandatory celibacy in the Latin Rite (With exceptions, of course) means that those who enter the priesthood are self - selected from the larger population. So, there may be ...
Ask your parish priest about the "third way."
Ask your priest (or research it yourself) if priests in the Eastern Rites, who are allowed to marry before ordination, have the same history of paedophilia as do those ordained in the Latin Rite. And, among women clergy in other denominations.
 

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Granted in part, but mandatory celibacy in the Latin Rite (With exceptions, of course) means that those who enter the priesthood are self - selected from the larger population. So, there may be ...
Ask your parish priest about the "third way."
Ask your priest (or research it yourself) if priests in the Eastern Rites, who are allowed to marry before ordination, have the same history of paedophilia as do those ordained in the Latin Rite. And, among women clergy in other denominations.
Interesting stuff, Cuzzin. Which religion is promoted at Catholic congress?
 

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I'm going to clarify something, because with the above statement you made, I KNOW it's going to be twisted as I have seen it twisted over and over again.

A pedophiles sexual preference when it comes to children has NOTHING to do with their sexual preference in regard to adults. A married male who is COMPLETELY hetrosexual and always has been in their sexual dealings with adults could have only an interest in prepubecent boys. This would make him a "homosexual pedophile", NOT a homosexual that IS a pedophile. The same with bisexual pedophiles( those that have no sexual preference either way) or hetrosexual pedophiles.

They have some name for it in this link....
Vatican: Abusive Priests Not Pedophiles, but ’Ephebophiles’ :: EDGE Boston
 

AnnaG

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A MySpace friend wrote a tune about priestly pedophilia:
Well crap, I can't seem to be able to post it.

Anyway it's called "There's No End" and she has an awesome voice. Here's her page:

http://www.myspace.com/magdalengraal2