NEB vs Province of Quebec
- Thread starter personal touch
- Start date
Yes
No not anymore
"Hormis quelques milliers de barils de pétrole qui ont été produits en sol québécois à la suite de différents travaux d’exploration pétrolière, le Québec importe
la totalité du pétrole raffiné utilisé sur son territoire. Ces importations sont longtemps venues d’Europe et d’Afrique. Nos sources d’importation de pétrole ont
cependant changé radicalement, comme l’indique le graphique*3.1.1. Depuis 2013, les États-Unis représentent plus de 50 % des importations québécoises,
le Texas et le Dakota du Nord arrivant en tête des États auprès desquels nous nous approvisionnons. Ce changement est lié au développement ultrarapide
de la production de pétrole de schiste aux États-Unis, ce qui en a fait un produit plus compétitif que les importations traditionnelles d’Algérie et d’autres pays
producteurs. Les raffineries québécoises, qui peuvent recevoir du pétrole brut par bateau, par pipeline (à Montréal) et par train, sont en mesure de modifier
très rapidement leurs sources d’approvisionnement, en fonction des meilleurs prix qu’elles réussissent à obtenir sur le marché.
Les livraisons de pétrole au Québec en provenance d’autres pays que le Canada vont vraisemblablement chuter en 2016, avec la mise en service de la ligne
de pipeline*9B d’Enbridge. Celle-ci transportera jusqu’à Montréal 300*000*barils par jour de pétrole provenant de l’Ouest canadien, mais aussi de producteurs
américains. Environ 100*000 barils de pétrole par jour devront encore être importés pour approvisionner la capacité de raffinage du Québec."
http://energie.hec.ca/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/EEQ2016.pdf
Juste pour toi
It is what we do for most of it
hahaha come on..... Ontario sell weapon to them.... it make nobody cry in ROC
Oh a little bit of racism here
You should educate yourself then. Québec is a Nation and it is recognized by the canadian since many years.
Oh a little bit of lousiness here. as usual
That is the canada you love so much.
so ?
Last edited:
If we are doing circles in politics,as it presents itself as demonstrating circles,
I agree it is going to be fun watching what is to come,can't wait!!!!
If we are doing circles in politics,as it presents itself as demonstrating circles,
I agree it is going to be fun watching what is to come,can't wait!!!!
1- The pipeline will transport an amount of 1.1 million barrels of crude oil per day. That is at least twice that which is currently transported by train.
2- The Transportation by train will not stop because there will be a pipeline. So the pipeline will increase the risks without affecting those we have now.
3- Quebec receives enough oil for its consumption with the reversal of the Enbridge pipeline. All that will be carried by the new pipeline will be for export without any benefit for Quebecers.
4- Give this infrastructure responsability to federal government..... without control of our National Governement on it ? again ??? no.....
Help Albertans to make money without benefits for us .... while it represents enormous risks? No thanks
It is as simple as that.
Listen up F-ckface. You get $10 billion from Alberta this year. That happens to match the $10 billion deficit in our budget. Don't you try to tell me you get no benefit from the west. Without our money you would be bankrupt and in poverty and all those social programs and special rights would be out the window. You are an ignorant and arrogant piece of sh-t who obviously feels self entitled but you have no f-cking clue. I wish you would separate and take your per-capita share of the national debt with you. Of course that would leave you bankrupt before you started. F-ck you and all your French pals you little pissant.
It's a tradition to insult people here ?
No. The Equalization is a federal program. It is paid by all people in the federation that pay taxes.
In fact, Quebec tax payer pay probably more equalization than a little province like Alberta. I did not check recently.
Quebec is 1,8 ;-)
You should be happy, Alberta will receive equalization soon then.
I agree we should be independent. And, of course, we will take our part of the dept and our part of the asset also and everybody will be happy. You can ask your prime minister, Justin, to cut equalization right now. I have no problem with it. Do we have a deal ?
What a lot of Quebecker don't realize when they vote that they have to also take their share of the National debt....
Canada's National Debt Clock : The Canadian Taxpayers Federation
each Quebec citizen's share is today 17,529.00$ and climbing
Add to that Quebec provincial debt...
Quebec "Debt Clock" | IEDM
Each citizen's share 69,095.33 $
So the Canadian government is slightly more frugal than your provincial government...
But that is bound to change with that flake Trudeau at the helm
The following link says Canada but when you open it up it shows the Ontario running debt clock
Canada's National Debt Clock : The Canadian Taxpayers Federation
Ontario is a bit better with each citizen owing 21,719.00 $
But growing fast with a muff diver at the helm
Last edited:
Yes, we are stupid like cows in Quebec. We don't know what is a dept and we can't realize thing as simple as this.
I admire the great English Canadian clairvoyance.
If there were separation the name would be Creebec and the French would be powerless nobodies.
Treaties would be nullified and all Crown assets handed over. There is no way in Hell the Cree would give up their land a second time
Treaties would be nullified and all Crown assets handed over. There is no way in Hell the Cree would give up their land a second time
I have no problem to give more rights to indians all over the federation.
Then, it mean that what Quebec do, ROC must do also. Goodluck to all at the negotiation.
It will be the Cree who decide what your Rights are if any.
The rest of Canadian Treaties would remain intact except for Creebec. They might even insist you leave.
The rest of Canadian Treaties would remain intact except for Creebec. They might even insist you leave.
The Canadian fantasy that wants that Indian suddenly become their allies to kneel down an independent Quebec is pure wishful thinking. Do you really think that Indians are stupid enough to help you for your beautiful eyes? Do you really think that the actual political position of Indian concerning the sovereignty movement in Quebec is for the love of the Canadian federation? This federation has been the instrument of the misfortunes of these people and these Nations. Even worse for them than what has been done to Quebecers. You really think they will not play their political cards in the event of an independant Quebec ? You really take all that is not WASP for idiots.I have no problem to give more rights to indians all over the federation.
Then, it mean that what Quebec do, ROC must do also. Goodluck to all at the negotiation.
Please indians piss off Quebecers for us! Please! ask to stay in this so nice federation that have been so good for you since centuries..... but don't expect that we will give you anything back. NO NO NO
Come out of your WASP bubble and be welcome in the real politics
yes yes yes
and if my grandmother had four wheels, it would have been a tractor.
Yes, Weibo Ludwig and has merry band of inbreds did get away with murder.
Easier for any net contributor to equalization to simply withhold the money and once Que is starving, offer them a program of loans with suitable collateral attached
Yes, stop bawling and do it. I absolutely don't care about it.
The federal will stop collecting taxes from us, we will take back the Seaway and everyone will be happy.
Please, do it
I can hardly wait to see how Que will take back the seaway.... Are you thinking of sending a troupe of mimes and couple of artsians the specialize in pointillism to ward off Canada and the USA?
We'll keep our money too.
Enjoy your new-found 3rd world status
As you wish
Agreed
Yes keep it please.
We will keep ours ;-)
fare enough ?
No surprise here
yep absolutely we have no money.
then, keep your oil where it is.... and we will do what we want with our "no money".
what was the deficit of Alberta last time ? 5 bilions ? wow! It's a lot of money for a small province like this.
Fortunately federal is there to help you.
keep going you will have equalization soon
I made a big mistake when I worked in Quebec for about 6 months in '75.....
As most of you know Quebec collects their tax separately, or at least used to..... while the other provinces collect and divide later at tax time while Quebecker must fill out separate forms.
My mistake was reclaiming that money at tax time.....A friend of mine who had worked at the same time I did forgot to claim it and at age 60 started receiving Quebec pension......
I got to admit $20 dollars a month doesn't sound like much and he only lived to 65 and was single so he didn't break even....
But for myself every month past 69 would have been a bonus with the amount of tax I paid.........oh well....live and learn
Even the death benefit would have been more...I'll have to ask his younger brother, if he claimed it, next time I see him. :lol:
As most of you know Quebec collects their tax separately, or at least used to..... while the other provinces collect and divide later at tax time while Quebecker must fill out separate forms.
My mistake was reclaiming that money at tax time.....A friend of mine who had worked at the same time I did forgot to claim it and at age 60 started receiving Quebec pension......
I got to admit $20 dollars a month doesn't sound like much and he only lived to 65 and was single so he didn't break even....
But for myself every month past 69 would have been a bonus with the amount of tax I paid.........oh well....live and learn
Even the death benefit would have been more...I'll have to ask his younger brother, if he claimed it, next time I see him. :lol: