Most BCers have lost confidence in the rcmp

Kakato

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Yes, you do.
And thanks for sticking to the topic.

I heard about that one Kakato.Alberta is next on the list for a high rate of people losing respect for the RCMP. I think the percentage quoted was about 36% of Albertans losing respect.

They actually brought in more cops from the city and had checkstops the day of Darrens funeral and they even stopped the procession and harrased lots of people.
He actually only spent 2 months in jail for manslaughter and there are many reports of this cop needing anger management,even his fellow police officers refused to partner with him.
So they knew they had a problem and swept it under the rug untill he did explode.

So after that lots of people lost faith in the cops in the area.
We have one here who was pensioned off after his 5th time found drunk behind the wheel on the way back from a prisoner transfer.
You cant hide this anymore with the new age of information and everyone packing a camera or video or having a scanner.;-)

Still,I say sir or maam if ever stopped,I know how they work after many brushes with the law in my dukes of hazzard days.
 

petros

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Oh....I remember reading about this one in the paper. The Kid had JUST
gotten beaten up, and flagged down a Police car, and was able to point
out the kids 1/2 a city block away on HIS bicycle....and got blown off by
the City Police here....

I have dealt with Law Enforcement Canada wide and across Indiana,
Wisconsin, Illinois, Michigan, Minnesota, North Dakota, Montana,
Idaho, Washington, and Oregon in my capacity as the Compliance
Officer & Safety Supervisor for an International Transportation Company,
and I can honestly say that many of the Regina Police locally are a breed
apart from every other Department that I've ever had to deal with....not to
say that there aren't some very good Cops here....but....lots aren't and
they are very blatant about it. Petros...being in the same city as you, I hear
you loud & clear....the only thing even close are some of the Provincial
Traffic guys in Quebec....and One Guy in one Jackson County in Michigan, &
two Guys in one specific scale house (known by Truckers as "10" due to their
physical shapes, as one is rotund & the other is a bean pole) in North Dakota.

Regina's force doesn't have a great rep...but they've earned what they have.
The truth sucks big time. We are fed a myth about care and compassion.
 

taxslave

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I would go one further and say that most BCers do not have any confidence in the legal system period.
There is something truly wrong with the system when one can get more jail time for cheating on your income tax than for murder.
 

JLM

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I would go one further and say that most BCers do not have any confidence in the legal system period.
There is something truly wrong with the system when one can get more jail time for cheating on your income tax than for murder.

You are forgetting that murder is just a crime against a person while cheating on income tax is a definite affront to old Lizzie.
 

AnnaG

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I would go one further and say that most BCers do not have any confidence in the legal system period.
There is something truly wrong with the system when one can get more jail time for cheating on your income tax than for murder.
Yup, that, too.
 

TenPenny

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It's a perfectly logical conclusion: if you're good at your job, you tend to get promoted. If you're good at that job, you'll get promoted. It's only when you reach a level that you are not good at, that you no longer get promoted...and there you stay.
 

taxslave

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It's a perfectly logical conclusion: if you're good at your job, you tend to get promoted. If you're good at that job, you'll get promoted. It's only when you reach a level that you are not good at, that you no longer get promoted...and there you stay.

Doesn't tend to work that way in government. I think some of them might have been promoted to a position where they can't do any real harm to front line workers. Doesn't seem to matter which ministry either.
 

VanIsle

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It's a perfectly logical conclusion: if you're good at your job, you tend to get promoted. If you're good at that job, you'll get promoted. It's only when you reach a level that you are not good at, that you no longer get promoted...and there you stay.
Unfortunately, there are too many jobs where it's not what you know but who you know. The RCMP can be one of those jobs. Depends on how much brown nosing you want to do.
 

grumpydigger

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Who is keeping them accountable?
Why politicians are afraid to take on the RCMP

James Travers, Ottawa (Toronto Star) – Some anniversaries should never be forgotten. It was four years ago this Christmas holiday that the RCMP meddled in a federal election, tilting its outcome, as even Conservatives confirm, and arching eyebrows over the relationship between the national police force and ruling parties.
Little has changed since. It remains a mystery why in the heat of a campaign then-Commissioner Giuliano Zaccardelli curiously revealed a criminal investigation into alleged Liberal income trust leaks. It remains a glacial work in progress to reform an RCMP that a 2007 inquiry concluded is horribly broken.
Wrapped around both the mystery and the slow-motion reforms are layers of fear and distrust more common to tinpot dictatorships than mature democracies. Politicians are keenly aware of the proven RCMP career-wrecking potential and dot a line between its behaviour and success resisting reorganization and civilian oversight.
Those changes were to be in place this month. Instead, Ottawa is delaying again, this time for Justice John Major’s report on the 1985 bombing of Air India Flight 182.
While delaying, Conservatives are comforting a force rattled by serial snafus, including an internal pension scandal and Robert Dziekanski’s Vancouver airport death. Gone within days will be Paul Kennedy, the RCMP complaints commissioner whose scathing reports and urgent demands for independent investigations embarrassed Mounties and irked Conservatives.
Ottawa insists reform and a new commissioner are coming. But restoring trust begins with fully airing what Zaccardelli did and why it’s so easy for him to remain silent.
Each of the three national parties has reason to push the past under the rug. Liberals want to erase memories of the ethical failures and infighting Zaccardelli stirred, the NDP prefers to forget its fevered response to the faxed RCMP letter and Conservatives have zero interest in adding a retrospective taint to an election victory.
Still, public trust demands the removal of all suspicion that a federal election was less than free and fair. Conservatives are not only failing to restore that confidence, they are compounding the legitimate worry that politicians are too intimidated or self-interested to act when the RCMP plays politics.
That reticence is easily explained. Wild RCMP runs at high-profile politicians, including Ontario’s former finance minister Greg Sorbara and B.C.’s one-time premier Glen Clark, are reminders that the RCMP, despite concerns about its competence, is still credible enough to ruin those in public life.
Logic argues that it’s in the interest of political elites to modernize a historic force that operates with the secrecy of a cult. Implementing fundamental changes recommended more than two years ago and still promoted by Kennedy would protect politicians from frivolous investigation while restoring public faith that the RCMP is safely under civilian control.
Both should have been priorities after Zaccardelli, later defrocked for misleading Parliament in the Maher Arar affair, apparently tinkered with an election. Any doubts about the legitimacy of that campaign should have been dispelled before voters next cast a ballot.
Instead, politicians opt not to risk RCMP wrath. Instead, a country that actively promotes its democratic brand abroad is now marking the fourth anniversary of an outrage so beyond the Canadian experience that it remains hard to believe it happened here and still harder to accept that the truth remains securely under lock and key.
 

L Gilbert

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As Corky Evans once said, " If we listened to the will of the people, nothing would ever get done."
Actually, he's wrong. lol In spite of themselves, the federal Liberals actually did do some good now and then. Same with the Cons but they don't listen as much. The Glibs are, or were, extremely populist.
Direct democracy seems to work in Switzerland. :)