Israel and Gaza Settlements - Legal or not?

petros

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Serb forces "targeted for extinction the 40,000 Bosnian Muslims living in Srebrenica. "
- Judge Theodor Meron [Polish-American Jew], Krstic Appeal judgement.
 

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Somehow I suspect you mean the Israeli or the US "war criminals" (What a fricking joke!)

And you don't include officials of Hamas, Hezbollah, or for that matter, the leader of China.

Gee whiz! I am SOOOOO surprized.

I thought I was clear. I have repeatedly referenced the Goldstone report, which found war crimes had been committed by both sides. They reported that Israelis had also committed crimes against humanity. (BTW, that crime against humanity is ongoing. Israel and Egypt deny food and medicine from reaching the malnourished and sick.)

I support bringing those responsible for war crimes and crimes against humanity before the ICJ where they can face an impartial trial based on the evidence. In the case of Israel and the occupied territories, the evidence is detailed in the Goldstone report as well as many other reliable sources such as charities, NGOs and UN staff. Whether these criminals are Palestinian or Israeli is beside the point.
 

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Your post is manipulative propaganda because it portrays a deliberately planned invasion, acts of terrorism, conquest, occupation and ethnic cleansing against a people who had no military as self defense???

But I'll bite. Please offer some evidence of an invading "Palestinian" army. Where did they come from and what did they conquer?

Yes, by Egypt, Trans Jordan, Syrian armies, Palestine did not have anything resembling a army or a goverment for that matter, they were not a nation by any stretch of the imagination. Ethnic cleansing is your words, Israel did not have any arms to speak of either at the begining, just what they found or were given, as were the Palestinians. Their invasion of Israel was thru using the various countries mentioned armies and terrorist gangs. Israel fortunately crushed them all. Some do want to see some form of world goverment, fortunately there are not any countries willing to take on the world so openly by trying to enforce so called "wars against humanity." (should by the way be called "wars against those who hold the power") Which is just another way the weak think they can gain power to enforce their rules, are they right, who says so, them?
 

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Maybe other nations should just let other areas just develop into their own little kingdoms. India was the perfect example of external interference. The Mid East might have just stayed a fluid area of the world and evolved on its own. The Haitian comparison thing is cute, they will have to go someplace who knows where they will end up, hope they can get along with the Muslims who are already setting up their own little fiefdoms up there if that is their destination. Seriously, just be happy that the U.N. does not have that kind of power or they might try doing someone else what they did to Mid-East.
 

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The Haitian comparison thing is cute, they will have to go someplace who knows where they will end up, hope they can get along with the Muslims who are already setting up their own little fiefdoms up there if that is their destination.
Why do you paint Muslims as wanting nothing to do with social and cultural growth?
You say leave them alone so they can develop, in the past that has meant develop only if America benefits most of all. The late 70's saw Afghanistan adopting the UN human rights of equality etc. That was wrecked by the CIA funding the parties that wanted to stop that sort of growth.

If anything they do not want American style of growth (all the secret back door meetings that goes on in a corrupt style of Government, as far as being for the little people), America promotes the elite and the slaves, perhaps you are an elite that is why you harp on how great you are.

Muslims would embrace all the modern toys that the West enjoys, they would also appear to be more interested in family oriented activities. It is only the radical suicide bombers that visit the western style strip clubs and gambling establishments (apparently)
 

ironsides

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Why do you paint Muslims as wanting nothing to do with social and cultural growth?
You say leave them alone so they can develop, in the past that has meant develop only if America benefits most of all. The late 70's saw Afghanistan adopting the UN human rights of equality etc. That was wrecked by the CIA funding the parties that wanted to stop that sort of growth.

If anything they do not want American style of growth (all the secret back door meetings that goes on in a corrupt style of Government, as far as being for the little people), America promotes the elite and the slaves, perhaps you are an elite that is why you harp on how great you are.

Muslims would embrace all the modern toys that the West enjoys, they would also appear to be more interested in family oriented activities. It is only the radical suicide bombers that visit the western style strip clubs and gambling establishments (apparently)

If it is what you want for Canada, go for it but I think you will be in the minority. Back to what you origionally mentioned, Toronto is in Canada last I heard.

You seem to think that the CIA has/had a unlimited budget, blaming them for the woes of the world. By the way, the U.S. will gain nothing in Afghanistan except for destroying terrorism against us there and any other place it raises its head.
They stop, we stop. Unlike other countries we have discussed, we are not looking to establish colonies or settlements outside our borders. But do us harm and be prepared to suffer the consequences.

 

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You seem to think that the CIA has/had a unlimited budget, blaming them for the woes of the world. By the way, the U.S. will gain nothing in Afghanistan except for destroying terrorism against us there and any other place it raises its head.
They stop, we stop. Unlike other countries we have discussed, we are not looking to establish colonies or settlements outside our borders. But do us harm and be prepared to suffer the consequences.
I heard something that pointed to the CIA being a military intelligence agency who sole purpose was to snoop into what was going on in other foreign countries. They are mandated to not conduct operations on American soil, that is for the same reason military troops cannot be used for national policing, that is what the FBI and Police do. The CIA likes to do things in the dark of night, if done with the knowledge of the tax payers they would all be fired. In the long term every operation they ever dreamed up and carried out will cost more in the long-run. Reversal of the damage is not always possible. The CIA runs operations like Mena, they were moving drugs prior to Viet Nam, they are moving more coke than they are catching and you can bet Afghanistan Heroin is their latest playground.

Why do you think Afghanistan didn't fly/donate over a few air drops of heroin to Haiti $$$$

So as far as money, yes they have unlimited funds. Didn't the Pentagon admit to be missing 2.5 Trillion dollars at 4:55 PM on Sept 10/01? All the death-squads of Centra/South Americas were trained in America at facilities like the School of the Americas.

They are even busier in the Mid-east, they are never there to support the poor and the weak, they are interested in control (for the good $$$$$ of America) while spending the smallest amount possible. (enrich a few million and lets the 10's of millions pay the price by living on next to nothing (when the two are compared side-to-side)

What do you think they do with all the planes they use, fly once and park it for life?

Their main purpose is to create chaos where there was no chaos.

All the above is available on full length documentaries, they have not repented their ways lol If they were made to advertise (say take over the spots TV advertising takes today in the evenings)all their little secret operations (past and future) even you wouldn't want them living next door.

They were trained by the German SS, when that news first came out why didn't you guys investigate/prosocute that?
 

ironsides

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Boy are you delusional. We were better than the German SS, in fact we learned from the Brits.. We did use German's for our rocket programs back then though, that was never investigated.

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