Is the US targeting Iran now??
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THE REALLY FUNNY THING about Iran seizing this most recent ship..............................
IS THAT IT IS AN IRANIAN SHIP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IRAN SEIZED ITS OWN SHIP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That was carrying IRANIAN DIESEL OIL to another Arab nation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And that other Arab nation ALSO EXPORTS MASS QUANTITIES OF OIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Iran is such a SCREWED UP MUSLIM MESS......................................
that something like 8 million litres of fuel are smuggled OUT OF IRAN...............................
by Iranian thieves........................................
EVERY DAY..............................................
and sold "under the table" to other countries..................................
while Tehran gets SHORT CHANGED on sale prices and taxes......................................
by the thieves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The latest tanker seizure is nothinb more than Tehran...........................................
going after IRANIAN THIEVES...........................
and has NOTHING TO DO with radical Muslim HATE.............................
or United Nations sanctions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
so, Here's the deal I'll make with you. Ask me questions about what it was like in the Forces in the 70's ... navy preferred but not necessarily. Ask me questions that you can't Google the answer. There is so little stuff about the subject that it shouldn't be hard for you ... if you had any clue what to ask. I will not necessarily answer things that are too personal ... but I might, too.
Ask away.
Bring it on, Turncoat.
Why were the few hauled off the boat screaming, 'I'm a Banker, I'm not a Crook.??
Maybe the guy WAS A BANKER?????????????????????
After all....................................
under Sharia Law......................................
charging interest on a mortgage is ILLEGAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I guess the punishment for being a banker is less painful
than the punishment for being a crook?????????????
Taking some lashes as a banker would be PAINFUL..............
but having your hand CHOPPED OFF a a CROOK...............
would be BOTH PAINFUL AND PERMANENT DISFIGUREMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is why our Ontari-owe law court is trying to sort out ......
A MAJOR FRAUD PERPETRATED by Muslim bankers.........
and this is why so many Muslims want to immigrate to Canada!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JUST FOR THE MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This gang of "Cdn" Muslims were setting up "mortgages" for Muslims in exchange for religious dispensations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Its the usual RADICAL MUSLIM BULLSH+T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is a financial FRAUD to exploit loop holes in Sharia Law.................................
and to CHEAT the Faithful..................................
AND when caught..............................................
using religious CRAP as a defense.................................................
TO PRETEND that infidel cops are intruding in religious matters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
U.S. verdict allowing seizure of Iran-linked Manhattan skyscraper is overturned
Reuters
Published:
August 9, 2019
Updated:
August 9, 2019 5:17 PM EDT
People walk by The Piaget Building at 650 5th Avenue, which has been named as being owned by the Iranian government, on November 13, 2009 in New York City. Getty Images
NEW YORK — A jury verdict allowing the U.S. government to seize a midtown Manhattan office tower that it said was effectively controlled by Iran was thrown out on Friday by a federal appeals court, which cited several errors by the trial judge.
The 3-0 decision by the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Manhattan is a defeat for the Department of Justice, which went to trial hoping to sell the 36-story building at 650 Fifth Avenue, perhaps for close to $1 billion, and distribute proceeds to victims of bombings and other attacks linked to Iran.
Jurors had found in June 2017 that the nonprofit Alavi Foundation, which had a 60% stake in the partnership that owned the building, violated U.S. sanctions imposed against Iran in 1995 because it knew that the 40% owner, Assa Corp, was a front for an Iranian state-owned lender, Bank Melli.
But in Friday’s decision, Circuit Judge Richard Wesley faulted trial judge Katherine Forrest, who is now in private practice, for “a troubling pattern of errors on relatively straightforward issues.”
Wesley said these included admitting videotapes of former Alavi board members repeatedly invoking their constitutional right against self-incrimination, and refusing to let Alavi gather evidence to show the government sued too late.
“If this case returns to trial, a properly informed jury may or may not find for the government – a topic on which we have no opinion,” Wesley wrote.
“But getting to any outcome requires a fair and procedurally adequate process, something that has been lacking in this case. There are no shortcuts in the rule of law.”
Separately, the same appeals court panel set aside Forrest’s 155-page opinion, which followed a non-jury trial, in favour of victims of alleged terrorist attacks linked to Iran, who sought damages from Alavi and the partnership, 650 Fifth Avenue Co.
The court said victims could pursue some claims in a retrial, but not others because the partnership was not a “foreign state,” as Forrest had wrongly concluded.
A spokesman for U.S. Attorney Geoffrey Berman in Manhattan, whose office represented the government, declined to comment.
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“We are obviously pleased,” Alavi’s lawyers Daniel Ruzumna and John Gleeson said in a joint statement. “All we have ever wanted and asked for is a fair shake.”
A lawyer for attack victims did not immediately respond to requests for comment.
Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, then the Shah of Iran, founded Alavi in 1973 as the Pahlavi Foundation.
Its mission includes the promotion of Persian culture, including Islamic studies, in the United States.
http://torontosun.com/news/world/u-...ran-linked-manhattan-skyscraper-is-overturned
Reuters
Published:
August 9, 2019
Updated:
August 9, 2019 5:17 PM EDT
People walk by The Piaget Building at 650 5th Avenue, which has been named as being owned by the Iranian government, on November 13, 2009 in New York City. Getty Images
NEW YORK — A jury verdict allowing the U.S. government to seize a midtown Manhattan office tower that it said was effectively controlled by Iran was thrown out on Friday by a federal appeals court, which cited several errors by the trial judge.
The 3-0 decision by the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Manhattan is a defeat for the Department of Justice, which went to trial hoping to sell the 36-story building at 650 Fifth Avenue, perhaps for close to $1 billion, and distribute proceeds to victims of bombings and other attacks linked to Iran.
Jurors had found in June 2017 that the nonprofit Alavi Foundation, which had a 60% stake in the partnership that owned the building, violated U.S. sanctions imposed against Iran in 1995 because it knew that the 40% owner, Assa Corp, was a front for an Iranian state-owned lender, Bank Melli.
But in Friday’s decision, Circuit Judge Richard Wesley faulted trial judge Katherine Forrest, who is now in private practice, for “a troubling pattern of errors on relatively straightforward issues.”
Wesley said these included admitting videotapes of former Alavi board members repeatedly invoking their constitutional right against self-incrimination, and refusing to let Alavi gather evidence to show the government sued too late.
“If this case returns to trial, a properly informed jury may or may not find for the government – a topic on which we have no opinion,” Wesley wrote.
“But getting to any outcome requires a fair and procedurally adequate process, something that has been lacking in this case. There are no shortcuts in the rule of law.”
Separately, the same appeals court panel set aside Forrest’s 155-page opinion, which followed a non-jury trial, in favour of victims of alleged terrorist attacks linked to Iran, who sought damages from Alavi and the partnership, 650 Fifth Avenue Co.
The court said victims could pursue some claims in a retrial, but not others because the partnership was not a “foreign state,” as Forrest had wrongly concluded.
A spokesman for U.S. Attorney Geoffrey Berman in Manhattan, whose office represented the government, declined to comment.
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“We are obviously pleased,” Alavi’s lawyers Daniel Ruzumna and John Gleeson said in a joint statement. “All we have ever wanted and asked for is a fair shake.”
A lawyer for attack victims did not immediately respond to requests for comment.
Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, then the Shah of Iran, founded Alavi in 1973 as the Pahlavi Foundation.
Its mission includes the promotion of Persian culture, including Islamic studies, in the United States.
http://torontosun.com/news/world/u-...ran-linked-manhattan-skyscraper-is-overturned
Isnt it wonderful to know that LIE-beral hug a thug judges.......................................
are working so very hard to defend the rights.....................................
of Iranian TERRORISTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
U.S. seeks seizure of Iranian oil tanker in new escalation
The newly issued warrant marks the first attempt by the United States to seize a ship since President Trump walked away from the international deal over Iran��s nuclear program and imposed tough new sanctions. It could also provoke further tensions between the United States and Iran in the Persian Gulf.
source: WAPO
The newly issued warrant marks the first attempt by the United States to seize a ship since President Trump walked away from the international deal over Iran��s nuclear program and imposed tough new sanctions. It could also provoke further tensions between the United States and Iran in the Persian Gulf.
source: WAPO
absolutely......so provocative. Someone should teach the US that bullying is NOT a diplomatic tactic.
Nah, The Trump US does not listen, her or learn.
an aside but relevant.........He has ruined relationships with almost every nation..... participatory Allies............but favors relationships with dictators. That pus the US on a totally different path........that opposes what the constitution designed for the nation.
The Americans and British have been trying to build another "coalition of the willing" but there are even fewer takers this time around than the last time. The Europeans are saying Non! Nein! ... because the perception is that Trump's trashing of the nuclear deal set all this off in the first place. There is also uncertainty about who is doing what to whom. This all has a bit of "Gulf of Tonkin" odour about it, which will work on the American public but not on very many others (the British are easily conned).
The British had one very vulnerable and obsolete Frigate in the region. It has been joined by a modern, powerful destroyer from a class that has a history of mechanical failure. Another obsolete Type 23 Frigate has just left for the Persian theatre and a forth modern Type 45 Destroyer has been sent to vaguely "the region". Iran has a full hand of cards to play in the form of a substantial and quite lethal submarine fleet. As well as a new way of waging naval war using swarms of small boats, presumably packed with high explosives. The Type 23s are not well kitted out to defend against those.
It's going to be interesting to say the least and there is no guarantee ... never a guarantee of success. One of these times, the bullying is going to go bad on them.
http://www.opendemocracy.net/en/british-navy-goes-all-trump-against-iran/
Clueless about the group you support and equally clueless about the group you keep trying to smear. Do you have plans at all?
Muslims get along with the Bankers because the interest is built into the 'selling price' rather than the bankers are denied any of the interest they demand.
If the religious cops ever visited the Jewish Bankers to see how they were living up to the instructions God left them would they be called 'Babylon'?
You are even more pitiful than when you were using bait.
The US will back down again. Sloppy paperwork is the most recent cause for 'a delay'.
The ultimate punishment would be no NATO flagged ships past that point as well as the waters below Iran all the way to Africa, for anything. China gets to give the specs for the size of the ships that will be carrying many goods.