Aboriginals are not against the pipeline. They are just negotiating for a larger piece of the pie.
Iran under Sanction Pressures – Reaction?
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Aboriginals are not against the pipeline. They are just negotiating for a larger piece of the pie.
They are formally against an oil pipeline - Until better negotiations - slice of the profits come. They had voted unanimously against the oil pipeline. Not the gas, the bitumen line
From the horses mouth.
U.S. in no position to prevent Hormuz Strait closure: IRGC deputy commander - Tehran Times
“In the event that Iran’s vital interests are threatened in any way, we will use threat against threat and will not stop implementing our strategies,” he added.
Iran will not ask for any country’s permission to employ its defensive strategies, he said, adding, “The Islamic Republic of Iran, over the past 33 years, has showed that it has successfully implemented its measures despite the U.S. interference.”
He also said, “We will act more determinedly and strongly than ever to implement defensive strategies to defend the vital values of the Islamic Republic of Iran.”
Oil Sanctions are a threat - We both know how it will impact Iran.
The Keystone pipeline will be built, we (Canada and the U.S. cannot continue to rely on Mid-Eastern oil).
We hunt Gophers up here. Cause a lot of damage for cattle / horses problems with the burrows etc broken legs. You hunt them down south. I think gopher went under ground. Gun shots make them a tad skittish.
If Iran tries to block the straits of Hormuz, the 5th fleet will reduce their offensive capabilities in 2-3 days not to mention what will fly over from Diego Garcia. The straits will remain open.
It was good to get the Carrier out. Prime target. They can sit nicely out of range and safer. Diesel subs are a problem but they also have a weakness.
Iran doesn't have to fire a single missile or torpedo to shut down the Straits of Hormuz. The threat of military action alone would raise insurance rates to the point where oil tankers could not afford the risk of running an Iranian blockade. The US could also shut down Iran's ability to export oil the same way.
If the US and other nations shut down Iran's ability to export oil, then Iran would be completely justified making a tit for tat threat to sink any oil tanker attempting to pass through the straight of Hormuz. So its highly doubtful the US or any nation would resort to force or the threat of force to shut down Iran's oil exporting capability. However, Iran would have no justification for action if its clients simply stop buying Iranian oil. Iran's problems with Israel and the US aren't a priority for China and many other countries, so I doubt US/European led embargo would completely shut down Iran's oil exports.
If the question is does Iran have the ability to sink ships in the gulf despite the presence of the US Navy, I'd say yes. Its pretty hard for an oil tanker to defend itself from conventional torpedoes and missiles, never mind Iran's supercavitating Hoot Torpedo:
BBC NEWS | Middle East | Iran tests 'super-fast' torpedo
No ship or submarine can outrun that type of torpedo. The only way the US could prevent Iran from shutting down the straight is by invading and occupying Iran. In the current situation, Russia and/or China would likely veto any US resolution at the UNSC to use force against Iran. The US would have to have concrete proof that Iran is attempting to acquire nuclear weapon technology. Given the lucrative Iran/China trade relationship, it would be in China's best interest to help Iran defend itself, rather than risk loosing the billions they've already invested in Iran's energy infrastructure:
People's Republic of China
Any US attack against Iran's oil infrastructure would risk a direct conflict with China.
If the US and other nations shut down Iran's ability to export oil, then Iran would be completely justified making a tit for tat threat to sink any oil tanker attempting to pass through the straight of Hormuz. So its highly doubtful the US or any nation would resort to force or the threat of force to shut down Iran's oil exporting capability. However, Iran would have no justification for action if its clients simply stop buying Iranian oil. Iran's problems with Israel and the US aren't a priority for China and many other countries, so I doubt US/European led embargo would completely shut down Iran's oil exports.
If the question is does Iran have the ability to sink ships in the gulf despite the presence of the US Navy, I'd say yes. Its pretty hard for an oil tanker to defend itself from conventional torpedoes and missiles, never mind Iran's supercavitating Hoot Torpedo:
BBC NEWS | Middle East | Iran tests 'super-fast' torpedo
No ship or submarine can outrun that type of torpedo. The only way the US could prevent Iran from shutting down the straight is by invading and occupying Iran. In the current situation, Russia and/or China would likely veto any US resolution at the UNSC to use force against Iran. The US would have to have concrete proof that Iran is attempting to acquire nuclear weapon technology. Given the lucrative Iran/China trade relationship, it would be in China's best interest to help Iran defend itself, rather than risk loosing the billions they've already invested in Iran's energy infrastructure:
People's Republic of China
Any US attack against Iran's oil infrastructure would risk a direct conflict with China.
The diesel shouldn't be to much of a problem for the attack subs escorting the carrier. If they were Japanese or Swedish electric's I would worry more.
It will not be NATO or the U.S. that will do something foolish first. Iran is doing enough already to provoke preventive measures. What makes anyone so sure were not using that torpedo or counter measures.
During the Iran - Iraq War the costs in todays dollars would add 6 $ per barrel. Check your history. Hardly a huge amount
Iran has thousands of sea mines, wake homing torpedoes, hundreds of advanced cruise missiles and possibly more than one thousand small Fast Attack Craft and Fast Inshore Attack Craft. I'm sure Iran would suffer massive losses, but they would effectively shut down the straight and sink every hostile navel vessel in the Persian Gulf. The US would have to fight this war from |Arabian sea or further out. Also, Iran has tens of thousands of medium range missiles capable of striking Israel and every US base in the region.
I don't see how the US or Israel could possibly act militarily against Iran and not sustain serious damage or risk dragging most of the world into the conflict.
I don't see how the US or Israel could possibly act militarily against Iran and not sustain serious damage or risk dragging most of the world into the conflict.
Nuclear threat my ass!
Iran Opens Oil Bourse - Harbinger of Trouble for New York and London? at Oil Price
Iran Opens Oil Bourse - Harbinger of Trouble for New York and London? at Oil Price
It is not as difficult as you think - couple of weeks perhaps 4 at the most. Add in the US allies that depend upon Hormuz. Did you consider that. No.
Should this be a UN sanciton it will be effective since all nations would be participating in it.
Nice propaganada piece that either contains a lie or mistake in fact collecting because if you want to float tankers in and out of the Gulf you have to go through Iranian waters. Any ship that decides to make a run for it is fair game to be shot at.
Gotta love how the US keeps taking pot shots at Iran an then get all bent out of shape when they try to defend themselves. I don't get why some people on here don't think they have a right to defend themselves against such a powerful and unreasonable foe.
Somebody doesn't want other major world producers using the Kish bourse which will accept any currency except US Dollars.