Who said anything about smoking? Joey's butt is getting burned so Joey changes the subject to suit Joey?
Help me find Sober People
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Contrary to what everyone tells you, I think smoking in moderation (as long as you exercise and do other things properly) won't harm you- I'm talking two or three cigarettes a day maximum.
Two lessons I learned early in life..........When entering a "licensed premises" always sit with your back to the wall and your mouth kept shut.
Well, *some* people's alcohol preferences... :smile:
I'm not a teetotaler by any means, but I don't get drunk either. I make my own wine (for $3 a bottle I can make better stuff than anything I can buy for $40), I like 12-year old single malts, and a good 8-year old or more rye is a pretty nice drink too, as long as it isn't adulterated with sugary soft drinks. Frankly, I think if a distilled beverage isn't smooth enough to drink neat, or at most with a little water and ice, it isn't good enough to drink at all.
So, having established my position, I'll get to my real point. It's not clear to me why you want to find people living a life free of alcohol and drugs, though I can certainly understand why you'd want to find sober people. Drunkenness never improved anyone, in my experience, but I see no harm in enjoying a drink or a toke every now and then. If your objection to these things isn't religiously based, and I don't see any indication in your posts that it is, then there's no point in seeking such people at a church that promotes such abstemiousness. First, you're unlikely to find many, and second, the kind of people who abstain from such things for religious reasons may not be to your liking if you don't share those reasons. The same is likely to be true of Vegans and health food extremists and such; if you don't share the same reasons for abstention, you're unlikely to have much else in common.You wouldn't want to share accommodations with a person who gags every time you put a piece of meat on your plate. And finally, just because people abstain from alcohol and drugs doesn't necessarily mean you'll share any other interests or values with them, and people who don't abstain you may share many interests and values with.
Like me, for instance, I like a drink of an evening, but I'm a pretty decent sort, I'm sure you'd like me... :smile:
You got that right Erin, even us old ex heavy drinkers like to reminisce about booze once in awhile- one advantage we old codgers have, we don't have to get drunk in the present, we just flip back to drunks from the past to stay entertained. (one of these days perhaps S.J. will learn that trick)
Drunkenness never improved anyone, in my experience, but I see no harm in enjoying a drink or a toke every now and then.
Quite right, Dexter. Nobody is talking of drunkenness, of getting drunk. We are talking of having one, at most two drinks of an evening.
What I am discussing is which drinks I prefer. As to abstaining completely, each to his own, I suppose. But I never saw much point in it.
Quite right, Dexter. Nobody is talking of drunkenness, of getting drunk. We are talking of having one, at most two drinks of an evening.
What I am discussing is which drinks I prefer. As to abstaining completely, each to his own, I suppose. But I never saw much point in it.
I like 12-year old single malts, and a good 8-year old or more rye is a pretty nice drink too, as long as it isn't adulterated with sugary soft drinks. Frankly, I think if a distilled beverage isn't smooth enough to drink neat, or at most with a little water and ice, it isn't good enough to drink at all.
Here I am with you, Dexter. Mix coke or Pepsi with a 12 year old single malt? What a blasphemy. Personally I don’t even put any water in it. Perhaps a couple of rocks, but that is all.
Here I am with you, Dexter. Mix coke or Pepsi with a 12 year old single malt? What a blasphemy. Personally I don’t even put any water in it. Perhaps a couple of rocks, but that is all.
Hi Dexter, I don't have an objection to people who enjoy a drink or two, I am one of them. I just have experience with those who have a problem with substance abuse and I have set up a website to help them (I mentioned in an earlier post it's a free classified website for those abstaining from drugs and alcohol to find roommates). I don't neccesarily think it is best for two recovering alcoholics to live together, unless one has many years of sobriety under their belt or both are fully prepared to support each other in moments of weakness. For that reason we are trying to raise awareness of the website in communities that abstain for various reasons; personal preference, religious reasons, concentrating on studies, etc. We realized, after noticing lots of classified ads that specifically mention they don't want any partiers or drugs in their home, that our site could be useful to all kinds of people. We're hoping to have enough users on the site in the future that people will be able to find someone with common interests in addition to their desire to not drink. You have a good point though. Thanks
Agreed, that's a repulsive thing to do, any single malt's flavours and aromas will be harmed by chilling. Some of them, however, are improved with a little splash of water. And I emphasize *a little* splash, no more than 10% of the total volume, or it'll be drowned. On the other hand, some of the blended scotches are simply unpalatable without water, like Johnny Walker Red, which I never touch. It tastes like I imagine kerosene would taste, and I think is responsible for turning more people off ever trying scotch again than anything else. It emphatically is *not* what decent scotch ought to taste like, the only people I've noticed who can drink it regularly are those whose senses have been dulled by tobacco. Ballantine's, however, is quite palatable with a splash of water. That's what you have after a shot or two of a fine single malt has anesthetized your taste buds.:lol:
On the other hand, some of the blended scotches are simply unpalatable without water, like Johnny Walker Red, which I never touch. It tastes like I imagine kerosene would taste, and I think is responsible for turning more people off ever trying scotch again than anything else.
Quite right, Dexter. When it comes to drinks we seem to see eye to eye quite a bit. Red is the cheapest of Johnny Walkers, I don’t think it is fit for human consumption. Black label (12 years old) is just palatable. When you come to green (15 years old) and Gold (18 years old), then you are talking of good scotch.
Blue label is of course, the ultimate in blends (a 1 liter bottle would typically go for around 200 $ in duty free shop). Some of the components in the blend are more than 60 years old.
Quite right, Dexter. When it comes to drinks we seem to see eye to eye quite a bit. Red is the cheapest of Johnny Walkers, I don’t think it is fit for human consumption. Black label (12 years old) is just palatable. When you come to green (15 years old) and Gold (18 years old), then you are talking of good scotch.
Blue label is of course, the ultimate in blends (a 1 liter bottle would typically go for around 200 $ in duty free shop). Some of the components in the blend are more than 60 years old.
